Centrica trebled their profits in 2021, so why are our gas bills going up or why did they go up in the first place ? Shell and BP also made massive profits, all these companies more or less made their money of the back of the Ukraine conflict. Oil and gas prices have now fallen below the pre war Ukraine conflict but we will still have a rise in our utility bills.
Will we see a reduction in our utility bills and fuel prices plus food prices should be falling as well. I doubt it, companies work on the assumption that if people can afford the price increases they won’t reduce them. Similar airfares, my flight prices have more than doubled but the planes are more or less full therefore the airlines won’t reduce the prices.
The energy companies all shareholder and mostly foreign owned thanks to Thatcher have the government over a barrel, hit them with a windfall they just increase the price or threaten to withdraw investment which in turn could cause job losses.
Right that’s my Thursday whinge !

Good post.

It’s a scandalous situation - while many people are facing financial hardship, certain companies are still making a killing, meanwhile VAT is still payable on our bills, WTF.

like fuel prices at the pump they,ll go down but never to the same level as they were once they started going up no matter what the price is. they know many people will just be happy to see any crumbs off the table type of reductions given to them. they know the sheep are easily made happy.

Why on earth are people surprised, Thats what surprises me.

Does somebody really have to spell this out.



"Say goodbye to the world you thought you lived in"

These top Energy bosses are worse than Putin.
Absolute selfish greedy bastads.
Fucken spineless government doing jackshit to help us out.
This £400 in theory was just a loan paid back with an extortionist rate of interest.
Now the Water Companys are joining the Easy money brigade.
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the whole world is changing and who is to say in years to come that a once great britain will not be great anymore and gone down the pan like other before like the egyptians, greeks and romans. we have no god given right to stay at least as we are and be a world leader anymore. thank goodness i will not be around to see it but those just starting school might be.

Anyone fancy a bit of Winter sunshine?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/21388232/ ... -maldives/

I feel for young familes, They don,t have a cat in hells chance.
And as for kids at school, Most will end up as payed slaves.
Sounds bleak and thats how it will be can,t really see any other outcome.

Are kids actually allowed a childhood now?

They will never go back to the level of before, the share holders of the companies will be demanding an increase in profits year on year.

Britain is no longer great its just Britain.

they are not but thats another subject. its been bad for em for years especially the underachievers and those not interested. now they are bombarded with this trans stuff, climate change, diversity equality and what ever else the woke education bosses want to foist on em. get promised the earth but what will they do once they learn something from school, they have been taken for a bloody big ride. they are not even called schoolkids anymore but bloody students as if that makes em more important.

French energy giant EDF's UK arm returned to profit in 2022, boosted by it being able to sell the electricity it generated for a higher price.
Underlying profit was £1.12bn, compared with a loss of £21m in 2021 mainly down to improved performance from its nuclear electricity generators.
EDF, which supplies gas and electricity to about five million UK households, is 84%-owned by the French state, but will soon be fully nationalised.

The utility companies said prices had to go up to cover their increased costs but they are now making massive profits so why did the price have to up in the first place ?

Once EDF is fully nationalised our hard earned money will be going to the French government.

There's been massive investment in wind farms and green stuff yet we get billed on the most expensive form of making electricity, meaning there is no benefit to us, the consumer!

I mean haven't we chipped in with our bills, extra tariffs and stuff? It's a massive massive con.

My son has an all green tariff yet he pays just the same as everyone else, there's only one winner here - GREED.

this bloody green thing gets me. having to pay for it without being asked and without anyone to fight your cause with the opposite view. its the new covid where you have no real option but follow the crowd or sheepdogs in parliament.

These profits shouldn’t have happened if the cost of fuel had went up, our bills should only have risen by the cost of the increase which doesn’t explain these huge margins of inbpcrease.
Can we just go back to having the Gas Board and the Electricity Board and bollocks to cool sounding companies with their fancy pants names and glitter covered bullshit.
Two companies, state controlled with profits not going to shareholders not going to mega shareholders and investors.
And while we’re at it, can the arseholes with delusions of saving the world by us setting an example get off their arrogant high horses about setting an example to the rest of the world go and sod off, followed by building lots of nice gas and nuclear power stations to provide us with the power we need.
Net zero will die quietly when they try to take our cars off us freeing the roads up for the elite who can afford cars.

Wind farms are very unreliable, no wind no electricity then we go back the conventional method, too much they have to shut them off.
I can never understand why we don’t make more use the tide, it never stops going in and out ?

We are run by an elite who want to create a society in their naive image…it’s though the country is being run by middle aged Idealistic sixth formers to whom the world outside their cosy cloisters is another planet…they have no real life experience.

I get my internet/landline from Shell Energy, another greedy corporation, I took out a new contract with them only 2 months ago, on their insistence, they sent me an email earlier this week saying they are increasing the cost due to investments in new technology etc. Only a couple of weeks after announcing record profits.
I contacted them a few months ago about the internet line connection box had come loose from my house fascia and needed reattaching, only to be told I needed to contact their maintenance people Opentreach directly as the request has to come directly from the customer...
Mmm, I retorted by saying I pay you to provide my service therefore you should sort it, but they didn't agree, sending me a link to Opentreach, I then reluctantly contacted them with the issue and you can imagine what they said , "you need to contact Shell as they are your provider", you really couldn't make this sh.t up, after telling them how unprofessional they all are I've now reluctantly recontacted Shell and I'm waiting on a result, just a bunch of conmen the lot of them.

Now you are seeing through the mist of time, All been planned for sometime.

Tide in and out on an Island (British Isles) it will never catch on.
Sorry that should have read "Won,t be allowed to catch on"

Simplie Sentence: They Don,t Care....

Until we find a way to store energy generated by Wind Farms they are not the answer.

We are run by an elite who want to create a society in their naive image…it’s though the country is being run by middle aged Idealistic sixth formers to whom the world outside their cosy cloisters is another planet…they have no real life experience.[/quote]
its like those courses you are sent too from work. run by the theory boys with no experiance of the industry they are in. the courses i was eventually banned from for telling a few home truths after being talked down to for the need of a new logo for the company. a logo that was supposed to be a rose but looked more like a doodle on a scrap of paper. the guy could not just get it when i told him mrs.green waiting for the bus had no interest in that type of thing but the cost of the journey and frequency of operation. he refused to leave the building so i could prove my point asking a few people their thoughts. in six months he had gone, done his dirty work and then inflicting more crap somewhere else.

Whoever truly cracks battery / energy storage will be the richest person in the world by a mile.

Wait till the 15 minute cities kick in then we all done

In Oxford where this bollox kicked off, local councillors of ALL the party’s agreed to implement it no matter what…there’s your problem, these insignificant nonentities have elevated themselves to God like status and torpedoed democracy.

I've haven't heard nothing from anybody rich or famous since i sent them all designs of my survivalist bunker projects..

funny how these nonentities become experts in fields they had no idea or interest in a few days after they are elected. s.till remember the words of jim davidson when he was blocked on his plans for the brittania pier and theatre he owned in great yarmouth. his parting shot on selling up was that he was not letting the local postman tell him how to run his business.

Shell Energy have sent me an email, they want to increase my monthly DD, I am currently over £70 in credit, I appreciate it’s probably computer generated but tbh it’s shocking after the profits they have made, I think they need to recalibrate their system.
Phone call tomorrow telling them my DD stays as it is of course the person at the end of phone always puts the fear of god into you telling you how much energy prices are going up.

Had the same email as you Jamie but with the reverse result. Mine has gone down from £150 to £92 per month, just crazy!

I have received this email from Shell detailing a new type of DD.

Another Direct Debit option is the Variable Direct Debit. The Variable Direct Debit will withdraw what is on the invoice statement two weeks after the bill is produced.

With the Variable Direct Debit, any credit that is on the account will be used to cover the bill(s). If the credit amount is lower than the bill total, then the remaining balance amount will be withdrawn from the Variable Direct Debit.

Furthermore, as the Variable Direct Debit withdraws exactly what is on the invoice, you would not receive notice of the Monthly Direct Debit Reassessments as we are obliged to do this by Ofgem.

I wish mine was crazy, I pay £280 per month and £92 would get the derwent household's real nod of approval.

Shell is our Leccy supplier whilst EDF do the gas, which we cook on and use for Central Heating etc. EDF is now £136 per month.

Mr D where is your £280 coming from, you are not heating 2 local schools. the pub and a couple of care homes as well or is that for both gas & leccy?

ask the neighbours who replaced their old banger for a new tesla.

It's both combined.

When the right time comes, customers of these companies might vote with their feet. If the company directors had any sense they would have seen that excess profits were going to be made, & so announce that they would reduce their customers' bills by x pence per Kwh. That would have generated customer goodwill & given the company some ammo to argue against a windfall tax. Far better to give money back to their own customers than pay additional tax which the government will fritter away.
Petrol companies would have had to do something different as they probably don't have loyal customers, but they could have offered x pence of a litre for a certain period - but would the retailers pass on the cost? Again, short-termism might have resulted.

How come Costco sell diesel at 159.9p & petrol at 140.9p when they have fewer filling stations (but with massive queues) ?

and how come the prices for fuel at the few independant garages about that sell some unheard of brand of fuel now charge the same as big supermarkets where previously their price was well over 10p a litre more. there is one about 15 miles from me and i fill up there now when passing. its like a time warp with old fashioned pumps and a bloke who fills you up.

There's a TV programme called Rip off Britain & that's exactly what the country is.
As for green energy,the windfarms etc,they're bloody useless.
Britain's carbon footprint is 2%,so I don't even know why we need to go down the green route,while the likes of China,India don't bother.
As for France,the government has just passed a bill to start building 3 new coal fired power plants,we've built nothing for years.

You forget the company directors are bound by the shareholders to make a profit and pay dividends plus a bonus for themselves. They have no interest in customers, gas prices are now less than they were before the Ukraine conflict yet the government are still going to increase the price cap.

It's actually worse than that as we have demolished most of our coal plants in recent years.

this country loves to try to make out its the good guys with its virtue signalling. who pays for it, its us. same with ukraine and money and goods thrown at them. do other european nations throw money at this subject like we do. we as a country still want to be world leaders were many of us would just like to follow for once and reap some benefits instead of paying for something we either disagree with or have little interest in as just men on the street.

The Green Energy thing has a lot to answer for, I think we are probably the only country in world throwing money at it.

You’re right, it’s an impractical con job. Someone on about heat pumps and a 5K grant from the government….the cost all in is over 20k…who has that sort of money to throw about…? ….plus the heat pump from the depth they’re talking about will require some pump to pump it up so the cost of running the pump won’t be cheap….plus the temperature won’t be what you’re used to…. Oh dear
We have politicians who have little experience of the real world being influenced by activists who won’t be happy till we reach the Flintstone level.

They forget to mention we need to generate electricity to run the heat pumps, Greta has a lot to answer for.

In the early eighties I worked on a unit drilling down for water reserves…… when we finally got down to a water reserve the pump needed to pump it up a 4 inch pipe was no lightweight and circulating it to heat a house could be expensive, you just pay more to pump it than heat it…..and you have the dubious pleasure of having to pull a wedge of money out to install it.

Wrong we are building a new Power Station Hinckley Point, 70% funded by the French 30% by Chinese, we had to agree to pay too dollar for the electric it provides before they started building it.

We all getting a massive increase April Fools Day.
What we pay then will more than likely stay at that level for the foreseeable. Despite what the so called expert Mr Lewis predicts.
About 100% higher than 2 years ago. Same as pet food.
But Jeremy Hunt reckons he will get inflation down to 2% by the year end.
Must do what they normally do n fiddle the figures.
ST s up to £500 next season. .
Promotion tickets.

just shows what privitisation has ever done for the average man in the street. sod all but made em a bit poorer.

Our trouble is we’ve got eco activists, mostly virtue signalling middle class egotists of all ages who are actually listened to by government and the media, who have the sheer arrogance to insist on actions that will affect the working class so they can lecture the world and set an example for the rest of the world to follow….how patronising and arrogant can they get.
And make no mistake, we’ll pay the price for their self deluding fantasies.

one thing is that they might be able to afford their actions like a waitrose shopper aint interested in food prices. they will be a growing number of these activists because of brain washing at schools and universities where there is only one line they are allowed to follow. we,ll never see a programme like in post war germany of de natzification for their brain washed citezens. they,ll save that for us desenters.