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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:56 am 
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They turn up on garage forecourt’s vandalise the pumps all to highlight their obsessive lunacy. What I find disturbing is showing them damaging the pumps with hammers, petrol pumps, possibly leading to a massive conflagration if their dumb symbolism goes tits up. Instead of a rap across the knuckles for these deliberate tactics, shouldn’t they be charged with something far more seriously?

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yes they should. we all have a fair idea what would happen if a group started up to smash solar panals and bring down windmills. nothing short of public hangings would satisfy the greenies then.


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They should be made to buy a tankful of petrol for my Bentley as punishment!

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I didn't know Corgi still made them

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I didn't know Corgi still made them

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……or classic Honda 50’s.

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I often wonder how these protesters travel about, push bikes, they use super glue which is not made using green energy, a bit hypocritical is it not ?


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I often wonder how these protesters travel about, push bikes, they use super glue which is not made using green energy, a bit hypocritical is it not ?

I wonder what life would be like if they actually got there way, your food, your travel, in fact everything would be different.
Eventually no meat, no fish …..but lots of plants. I suspect booze would be eliminated even coffee and tea, no tobacco (except their ‘smokes’) and everything would be grown naturally without any help, no cars except four seat electric golf buggies or scooters, no flying, no holidays overseas, no cruises, nothing of any consequence in fact.

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I didn't know Corgi still made them

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……or classic Honda 50’s.


Dinky and Honda 90............stand corrected. :wink:

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Jamie1952 wrote:
I often wonder how these protesters travel about, push bikes, they use super glue which is not made using green energy, a bit hypocritical is it not ?

always wonder as well if they are the same lot who were born of two CND protesters of the past who go around to all lefty issues and not just one. my old man always used to say that they must have good jobs to allow em so much time for protests. i,d like to bet now if they are in receipt of benefits there,s will not be stopped because they are not actively looking for work.


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I often wonder how these protesters travel about, push bikes, they use super glue which is not made using green energy, a bit hypocritical is it not ?

always wonder as well if they are the same lot who were born of two CND protesters of the past who go around to all lefty issues and not just one. my old man always used to say that they must have good jobs to allow em so much time for protests. i,d like to bet now if they are in receipt of benefits there,s will not be stopped because they are not actively looking for work.

Those sort of people are totally obsessed with their politics and will entertain no change or even compromises, there fervour is nearly on a religious scale.

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and it came to pass that st.greta was a false prophet in the land. the multitudes rose up against the greenites after they caused much famine in the land. animals agan roamed the land and people lived off the bounty they brought them. after cold in the land with forty days and forty nights of snow the profits of climate changed left the land to be seen no more.


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The thing that gets me is the term peaceful protest. How many are actually trouble free.
And what about the cost of policing/controlling them. There are better ways of spending tax payers money.

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Might it be better if the media stopped reporting who was involved and why…?
Just say a premises was vandalised the perpetrators have been arrested.
They need the oxygen of publicity. Turn it off.

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People are starting to get angry about the multiple issues facing all and i would not be surprised if this sort of thing increases significantly.

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Get stocked on peat for your garden/allotment.
Sale of horticultural peat to be banned in move to protect England’s precious peatlands.
All sales of peat to amateur gardeners in England will be banned by 2024, the Government has announced today (Saturday 27th August).


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derwent wrote:
The thing that gets me is the term peaceful protest. How many are actually trouble free.
And what about the cost of policing/controlling them. There are better ways of spending tax payers money.

like in lincolnshire watching the plod do the macarana at a pride rally. george dixon would turn in his grave.


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Iranians violently protesting in London.
Anyone else notice the Police drawing their trungeons back but never using them.
Had it been the English protesting or Football fans misbehaving then plenty of heads would of been leaking blood.
All part of the foreigners takeing over our England.


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Iranians violently protesting in London.
Anyone else notice the Police drawing their trungeons back but never using them.
Had it been the English protesting or Football fans misbehaving then plenty of heads would of been leaking blood.
All part of the foreigners takeing over our England.


Aye, now you mention it they kept threatening but never acting. I wonder how many got charged with offences.
It was all around the Western world apparently, so why don’t they all go back and confront their apparently detested leadership…..? Although in a country like that, demonstrating will not be looked on so kindly.

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We are a million miles away from being totally green, fossil fuel not only provides fuel for cars but there loads of other by products. All we need is a calm day or a surge in the use of electricity and the wind farms stop producing or can’t produce enough energy then we have to revert back to fossil fuel energy production.
Again it goes to lack of investment by energy companies, we should be looking at tidal power, the tide never stops but then we have the environmental crowd kicking off saying it will affect marine life.
Nuclear power, the current new one under construction is 70% French 30% Chinese owned and when it comes into production they are going to get a premium rate per kilowatt.
Surely the next government which looks like could be Labour would renationalise all the utility companies. If they ran on that mandate they would walk the election as people are being screwed by foreign owned utility companies.
We need massive investment in the U.K., instead of giving the few a tax cut meaning a millionaire is going to be £55000 a year better off. The trickle down economy, are the millionaires and people earning over £150000 going to spend their extra income to help the economy I doubt it.


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really doubt 25 years ago that anybody forecasted we would be discussing topics like this. you filled up your car with fuel, switched the lights on and turned on the gas without a second thought. now certain people want the clock turning back. once something is invented you cannot deinvent even if thats a word anyway.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
We are a million miles away from being totally green, fossil fuel not only provides fuel for cars but there loads of other by products. All we need is a calm day or a surge in the use of electricity and the wind farms stop producing or can’t produce enough energy then we have to revert back to fossil fuel energy production.
Again it goes to lack of investment by energy companies, we should be looking at tidal power, the tide never stops but then we have the environmental crowd kicking off saying it will affect marine life.
Nuclear power, the current new one under construction is 70% French 30% Chinese owned and when it comes into production they are going to get a premium rate per kilowatt.
Surely the next government which looks like could be Labour would renationalise all the utility companies. If they ran on that mandate they would walk the election as people are being screwed by foreign owned utility companies.
We need massive investment in the U.K., instead of giving the few a tax cut meaning a millionaire is going to be £55000 a year better off. The trickle down economy, are the millionaires and people earning over £150000 going to spend their extra income to help the economy I doubt it.


Keir Starmer says he would get rid of fossil fuel energy by 2030. With your knowledge of the situation Jamie can this be done, or is he talking bollocks. Will we ever achieve this, never mind by 2030??

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derwent wrote:
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We are a million miles away from being totally green, fossil fuel not only provides fuel for cars but there loads of other by products. All we need is a calm day or a surge in the use of electricity and the wind farms stop producing or can’t produce enough energy then we have to revert back to fossil fuel energy production.
Again it goes to lack of investment by energy companies, we should be looking at tidal power, the tide never stops but then we have the environmental crowd kicking off saying it will affect marine life.
Nuclear power, the current new one under construction is 70% French 30% Chinese owned and when it comes into production they are going to get a premium rate per kilowatt.
Surely the next government which looks like could be Labour would renationalise all the utility companies. If they ran on that mandate they would walk the election as people are being screwed by foreign owned utility companies.
We need massive investment in the U.K., instead of giving the few a tax cut meaning a millionaire is going to be £55000 a year better off. The trickle down economy, are the millionaires and people earning over £150000 going to spend their extra income to help the economy I doubt it.


Keir Starmer says he would get rid of fossil fuel energy by 2030. With your knowledge of the situation Jamie can this be done, or is he talking bollocks. Will we ever achieve this, never mind by 2030??


He is having a laugh, he is going to shut down every oil and gas facility in the North Sea employing over 30000 personnel, is he going to supply everyone with an electric car which has to be charged using energy from fossil fuel ?


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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We are a million miles away from being totally green, fossil fuel not only provides fuel for cars but there loads of other by products. All we need is a calm day or a surge in the use of electricity and the wind farms stop producing or can’t produce enough energy then we have to revert back to fossil fuel energy production.
Again it goes to lack of investment by energy companies, we should be looking at tidal power, the tide never stops but then we have the environmental crowd kicking off saying it will affect marine life.
Nuclear power, the current new one under construction is 70% French 30% Chinese owned and when it comes into production they are going to get a premium rate per kilowatt.
Surely the next government which looks like could be Labour would renationalise all the utility companies. If they ran on that mandate they would walk the election as people are being screwed by foreign owned utility companies.
We need massive investment in the U.K., instead of giving the few a tax cut meaning a millionaire is going to be £55000 a year better off. The trickle down economy, are the millionaires and people earning over £150000 going to spend their extra income to help the economy I doubt it.


Keir Starmer says he would get rid of fossil fuel energy by 2030. With your knowledge of the situation Jamie can this be done, or is he talking bollocks. Will we ever achieve this, never mind by 2030??


He is having a laugh, he is going to shut down every oil and gas facility in the North Sea employing over 30000 personnel, is he going to supply everyone with an electric car which has to be charged using energy from fossil fuel ?


Aye you sometimes wonder who advises him.

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Hang on, I'll have a fish down the back of me sofa for an extra 10k to buy a leccy car


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Hang on, I'll have a fish down the back of me sofa for an extra 10k to buy a leccy car


You're lucky to have a sofa. we burnt ours to keep warm

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How do these oil demonstrators arrive at their demonstration places, wings ?


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derwent wrote:
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derwent wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
We are a million miles away from being totally green, fossil fuel not only provides fuel for cars but there loads of other by products. All we need is a calm day or a surge in the use of electricity and the wind farms stop producing or can’t produce enough energy then we have to revert back to fossil fuel energy production.
Again it goes to lack of investment by energy companies, we should be looking at tidal power, the tide never stops but then we have the environmental crowd kicking off saying it will affect marine life.
Nuclear power, the current new one under construction is 70% French 30% Chinese owned and when it comes into production they are going to get a premium rate per kilowatt.
Surely the next government which looks like could be Labour would renationalise all the utility companies. If they ran on that mandate they would walk the election as people are being screwed by foreign owned utility companies.
We need massive investment in the U.K., instead of giving the few a tax cut meaning a millionaire is going to be £55000 a year better off. The trickle down economy, are the millionaires and people earning over £150000 going to spend their extra income to help the economy I doubt it.


Keir Starmer says he would get rid of fossil fuel energy by 2030. With your knowledge of the situation Jamie can this be done, or is he talking bollocks. Will we ever achieve this, never mind by 2030??


He is having a laugh, he is going to shut down every oil and gas facility in the North Sea employing over 30000 personnel, is he going to supply everyone with an electric car which has to be charged using energy from fossil fuel ?


Aye you sometimes wonder who advises him.


And how is he going replace the £3 billion plus the government receive in tax revenues from oil and gas in the North Sea ?


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Jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
We are a million miles away from being totally green, fossil fuel not only provides fuel for cars but there loads of other by products. All we need is a calm day or a surge in the use of electricity and the wind farms stop producing or can’t produce enough energy then we have to revert back to fossil fuel energy production.
Again it goes to lack of investment by energy companies, we should be looking at tidal power, the tide never stops but then we have the environmental crowd kicking off saying it will affect marine life.
Nuclear power, the current new one under construction is 70% French 30% Chinese owned and when it comes into production they are going to get a premium rate per kilowatt.
Surely the next government which looks like could be Labour would renationalise all the utility companies. If they ran on that mandate they would walk the election as people are being screwed by foreign owned utility companies.
We need massive investment in the U.K., instead of giving the few a tax cut meaning a millionaire is going to be £55000 a year better off. The trickle down economy, are the millionaires and people earning over £150000 going to spend their extra income to help the economy I doubt it.


Keir Starmer says he would get rid of fossil fuel energy by 2030. With your knowledge of the situation Jamie can this be done, or is he talking bollocks. Will we ever achieve this, never mind by 2030??


He is having a laugh, he is going to shut down every oil and gas facility in the North Sea employing over 30000 personnel, is he going to supply everyone with an electric car which has to be charged using energy from fossil fuel ?


Aye you sometimes wonder who advises him.


And how is he going replace the £3 billion plus the government receive in tax revenues from oil and gas in the North Sea ?


God knows.

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Don’t bother Mr I, it’s just been announced this morning that the tariff on electric charging points will increase to roughly just under the rate for petrol.
I suspect the price for electric car charging and home charging will be on a separate tariff to compensate for the loss of fuel duty. No one beats the tax man.

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Keir Starmer says he would get rid of fossil fuel energy by 2030. With your knowledge of the situation Jamie can this be done, or is he talking bollocks. Will we ever achieve this, never mind by 2030??


He is having a laugh, he is going to shut down every oil and gas facility in the North Sea employing over 30000 personnel, is he going to supply everyone with an electric car which has to be charged using energy from fossil fuel ?

sounds as if he is pulling his christmas crackers early and found that along with a paper hat inside it. do not worry folks, the answer my friend is blowing in the wind unless you are a cow that is.


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Apparently according to research in Japan, there isn’t enough minerals in the world to produce the batteries for the vehicles needed.
The message getting banged out subconsciously is use public transport, walk, cycle or join the E scooter revolution….. it appears the cars won’t be available to the rabble any more.

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Apparently according to research in Japan, there isn’t enough minerals in the world to produce the batteries for the vehicles needed.
The message getting banged out subconsciously is use public transport, walk, cycle or join the E scooter revolution….. it appears the cars won’t be available to the rabble any more.

thats probably their master plan with an early 30,s type of motoring which will eventually see a saving in roads and their upkeep. all well and good if it went side by side with 30,s public transport systems, but that needs to come first and not second. at the moment i can walk miles but cannot cycle of use a scooter unless i want to spend time in A and E .


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Imagine going for your big shop at the supermarket in January in the snow with you and the wife on your E scooters. sadx

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Imagine going for your big shop at the supermarket in January in the snow with you and the wife on your E scooters. sadx


Maybe they also want us to shop online. There's a bloody conspiracy afoot :angry-tappingfoot:

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Imagine going for your big shop at the supermarket in January in the snow with you and the wife on your E scooters. sadx


Maybe they also want us to shop online. There's a bloody conspiracy afoot :angry-tappingfoot:

well if everyone did that some will never get out of the house. work from home, shop on line and what are they going to do for sunday entertainment, listen to 18 hours of government propaganda for the greater good.


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Imagine going for your big shop at the supermarket in January in the snow with you and the wife on your E scooters. sadx


Maybe they also want us to shop online. There's a bloody conspiracy afoot :angry-tappingfoot:

well if everyone did that some will never get out of the house. work from home, shop on line and what are they going to do for sunday entertainment, listen to 18 hours of government propaganda for the greater good.


The way things are going with food deliveries cooked and fresh plus supermarket deliveries people won’t need to leave the house. I don’t think there is anything which can’t be bought online now ?


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Apparently according to research in Japan, there isn’t enough minerals in the world to produce the batteries for the vehicles needed.
The message getting banged out subconsciously is use public transport, walk, cycle or join the E scooter revolution….. it appears the cars won’t be available to the rabble any more.


There is then the disposal of the used batteries, I would imagine the contents would be very toxic ?


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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Imagine going for your big shop at the supermarket in January in the snow with you and the wife on your E scooters. sadx


Maybe they also want us to shop online. There's a bloody conspiracy afoot :angry-tappingfoot:

well if everyone did that some will never get out of the house. work from home, shop on line and what are they going to do for sunday entertainment, listen to 18 hours of government propaganda for the greater good.


The way things are going with food deliveries cooked and fresh plus supermarket deliveries people won’t need to leave the house. I don’t think there is anything which can’t be bought online now ?

You try getting a canopy for a Focker D21 (Dutch spelling)…. Can’t be done. :laugh:

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Jamie1952 wrote:
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Apparently according to research in Japan, there isn’t enough minerals in the world to produce the batteries for the vehicles needed.
The message getting banged out subconsciously is use public transport, walk, cycle or join the E scooter revolution….. it appears the cars won’t be available to the rabble any more.


There is then the disposal of the used batteries, I would imagine the contents would be very toxic ?

Very, but never mind, the wokesters will have us like ‘Good Life’ on the telly with donkeys and carts, then the marketing people will be promoting ‘GT Donkeys’, ‘High Perfomnce Hay’ and ‘Super-grip Horse Shoes’ guaranteeing 0 to 4 mph …. eventually. sadx

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. I don’t think there is anything which can’t be bought online now ?

You try getting a canopy for a Focker D21 (Dutch spelling)…. Can’t be done. :laugh:[/quote]
or locate something thats usually in nigeria where they want paying in the currancy of some remote south seas island. more fockers selling stuff than focker parts.


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