Isn’t it about time all Party Conferences took place during the Summer recess during their holidays and not during what should be time in Parliament working.

For what good they do I'd say yes.

Yes in the summer break and to be on at the same time.

Good idea about them all being on at the same time…
They could compete for the viewer ( surely there’s no more than one ) and all drone on about moving motion 25b etc to their hearts content while are out in the garden.

seems what happens at a conferance stays at a conferance where nothing happens once they get back to the day to day parliament work. pass this or that and how many of this stuff eventually sees the light of day.

Revealed at the Labour Party Conference, all members were given a card with the words to God Save the Queen ..ooops ?…King.
Never heard it sang so reluctantly, you’re trying Kier, but they ain’t keen.

well you cannot blame them. they could either be republicans or not over keen on the new uncrowned king. its back to the old debate about the actual words of the national antham itself. its all about one person and not the people or the land itself that most others are. know i,d me more than reluctant to sing the words as well.

The important thing is you can choose to sing it or not, unlike countries who have two armed guards watching over you whilst you take part in a vote.

The Conference season is a good smokescreen for Truss as she hasn’t had to face up to PMQs.whilst the financial crisis is going on.

Not the point and you know it, let them have their conferences in their time.

The point I was making was most people know the first part of of the National Anthem, putting out cue cards is just plain patronising to the delegates.

I might have misheard something on TV this morning, that parliament has sat for only 3 weeks in the last 17 weeks. As I said I might have misheard but if I didn’t, that’s a staggering statistic. I know all the reasons that are bandied about why they haven’t sat, but we are in a national emergency, there is no genuine reason apart from the day of QE II funeral, that they shouldn’t have been working and I don’t mean working in their constituencies.
Now we have to sit through almost 3 weeks of them poncing about clapping each other as if they’ve cured cancer, they make me sick, all of them with very few exceptions.

‘Some Tory MPs not going to the conference including Rishi Sunak, Sajid Javid, David Davis and Mel Stride not sure how many more.

Don't think Rishi will be standing at the next GE. Don't know about the others but it might
be a bit frosty for some of them, especially from Boris supporters amongst the rank and file.
I wonder if Bojo will turn up.

Rishi will sail of into the sunset knowing he won’t have another chance of the PM job or even a job in cabinet.
I doubt Johnson will turn up as it would overshadow Truss if he was there.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Sunak ends in the States, he did hang on to his green card after all.

not too sure of that as he is the type to love the attention he,d get from many members of the party if not the mp,s. he has always craved for publicity ever since he made a name for himself.

I believe there was a reason why Johnson endorsed Truss.

The Sunak issue is interesting. Will he run away or bide his time on the backbenches. I think he may stick around. With the public he does have some credibility and may look for a comeback just like Boris. Its going to be fun to watch as long as they are not in power.

well he was nailed on at one time as a johnson replacement then went to zero in many peoples eyes. he could make a comeback unless he waves politics goodbye to do other work. he does have a name which helps nowadays so he will never be rishi who unlike plenty of others are.

and he speaks just like Tony Blair..........right

In the interviews with Truss he didn’t agree with her policies and said it would basically be the wrong policies to introduce, he was right.

Who really cares

I think we should all be caring more so worrying because of the mini budget, if the BOE hasn’t stepped in we could have had another 2008 scenario when we had people queuing outside Northern Rock Banks to wthdraw their cash before it went under.
We have the 6th biggest economy in the world yet people are having to use food banks 1400 plus currently to survive. Rising energy costs that are only going to be subsidised till next March, rising interest rates which could see people homeless, inflation running at around 10%, wage increases if you are fortunate to get one being offered at less than the inflation rate, there will be a rise in the Council Tax no doubt next year.To pay for all the mini budget there will have to be huge cuts in public spending meaning no pay rises for the employees which will lead to more strikes.

Let’s sort Pools out first….. your obsessive love affair with politics can wait.

as an individual there is sod all you can really do to change pools or politics. thats why people get wound up about them both.

Too be honest the whole global situation has got me wound up, never mind Pools, even my other team Kilmarnock got thumped 4-1 yesterday bottom of the league now, maybe Hartley next job, he might take Murray back, it’s where come from.

there is more to worry about with the world economic forum and the world health organisation that to worry about party conferences in a now insignifacant over populated island in the north sea that still thinks of itself as some global power.

I reckon he might hang around because Truss has a very very limited time span and will be out one way or another shortly. At best she will lose the next G.E. so then he can make his final pitch for glory.

My Scottish team is Arbroath and Welsh Bala Town.
Reason.
Visited Arbroath once for the smokies and match and used to holiday in Bala every summer as a kid.

Never been to one .I've heard they're all about heavy boozing and a bit of slap and tickle at the end of the day..

if they are like the institute of transport weekend ones you are correct.

There might be quite a frosty atmosphere after Truss through Kwarteng under a bus yesterday re the tax cut which they have now uturned on. All the Treasury personnel are now denying it was their suggestion to introduce it.

They've both gone under the bus this morning. The 3 month farce of an 'election' by which 80,000 Tory members choose a prime minister for 67 million people has given us a lame duck government in only 4 weeks - it would have been 2 weeks if Queen Elizabeth hadn't died!

No doubt rags like the Daily Mail will pretend this is a temporary setback but Truss is a goner. My bet is that Mr. I will get his wish of Boris Johnson coming back as Prime Minister before the next general election.

It depends on the inquiry about Johnson by the Commons Privileges Select Committee, if it’s decided he misled Parliament he will be lose his seat in Parliament.
7 MPs sit on it 4 of them are Tories so there is good chance he will be found not guilty.

Kwarteng revoked his original decision to scrap the 45% rate of tax and, as far as I can see, everybody seems to agree with that. It now depends on how that U-turn is interpreted as to where Kwarteng goes from here. His enemies, including the opposition parties and Tory haters have already said it is evidence of his incompetence and therefore he should be sacked or at least resign and his friends say what he did takes courage and claim, as he himself does, that he has shown he is prepared to listen to the overwhelming majority of people that spoke out against his original position.
Has the pressure eased or will it increase as people smell blood.
That brings me to Truss. Is she now under increased pressure by association, after all she appointed him and backed his original position.
I am not going to speculate on the outcome, simply because I think it could go either way.
I do think that this statement Kwarteng has said is going to be made in Late November should, if possible, be brought forward, in the interests of clearer direction. Maybe the bits that are able to be announced are done so now and the rest in good time.
The downside is that now Kwarteng has been wounded, that may make him a bit more determined to take his time, take more advice, research that which is controversial and stay in his shell a bit longer.

I blame my MP Chris Pincher who mainly contributed to the downfall of BoJo, thus bringing in a pair of chancers in Kamikaze & Truss.

Somebody told me that these 2 will be on the backbenches come Christmas with Sunak as PM - might not be a bad idea come to think of it.

If I was a Tory MP, which I'm not and never will be, I would be looking for a clear plan to take the party into the next election with a chance of winning it.
I don't want the best of a bad bunch scenario because that is not in the interest of the country.
The danger presenting itself at the moment is the MSM and the opposition are desperate for the Government to fail but it is not just the Government who fail, the rest of us fail with them.

The tax cut has only been suspended, it will be introduced at a later date I think once things settle down. What planet does Kwarteng live on drinking champagne with his buddies one of whom admitted to have made millions shorting the pound then says in his speech at the conference his budget caused a little turbulence, bloody hell he nearly collapsed pension funds if not for the BOE stepping in.

People know that when their bills arrive, they can either cut their consumption or they can get a higher salary, higher wages, go out there and get that new job,” the Tory Party Chairman Jake Berry said.

Kwarteng now saying he is going to bring the report forward.

Like I suggested the report ASAP is a necessity and I welcome that. He obviously needs to pick and choose which invitations he responds to with a bit more care but, in fairness (and considering the lack of it in politics, I use the word loosely) ,unless he is in charge of the guest list or has sight of it, turning up has it's repercussions. He could have walked out though. I don't know the guy from Adam but he comes across as a bit naive, thus making it imperative to learn who and what he can trust. In politics that is not an easy task. His excitement to be seen to be doing something is clouding his judgement. His future depends on the immediate elimination of gaffs. Time will tell always presuming he gets that time considering how many knives are glinting in the sun.

I think Truss is in for difficult times in the near future even from her own party, she was elected by the Tory Party members, I believe Sunak stabbed Johnson in the back so it moved Truss into pole position.
MPs have already been sending letters to Brady the leader of the 1922 committee, whilst there can’t be a vote of no confidence within 6 months rules can be changed.

Truss hasn't had a vote of no confidence so that rule doesn't apply.

There could be a vote today (subject to the necessary number being sent to Brady at the 1922 Committee).

The woman is TOAST

I would expect that Boris is being sounded out as we speak and if and when he agrees to stand the ref will blow his whistle.
The big question on that is will the MPs who got rid of Boris ask themselves to resign or be sacked for THEIR lack of foresight or judgement.
Personally if it was me they had got rid of my answer would be "you've made your bed now lie on it." but Bojo's lust for power and limelight may still be too strong to take that tack.
I wonder if he's got a white charger .