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 Post subject: The transfer window
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:13 am 
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Is it just me who thinks it’s bollocks, a football agent’s ( they call themselves ‘facilitators’ now) Nirvana and serves no purpose.








Er, not that I have an agenda. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:53 am 
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[quote="Snowy"]Is it just me who thinks it’s bollocks, a football agent’s ( they call themselves ‘facilitators’ now) Nirvana and serves no purpose.


have never understood why we had it foistered on div.1 and 2 clubs anyway. it does not happen in the NL or other non league teams. we are much closer to them than the premier league anyway which was why it was brought in anyway. same with this limitation of squad sizes where i cannot see it helps anyone. football is an industry and there would be strikes if any other had a limitation on the numbers firms could employ without ticking loads of boxes.


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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:42 am 
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Obviously we need fresh blood in, but……?
By the time we get to Xmas you have a backlog of clubs looking for players to save their bacon and clubs who weren’t in trouble earlier in the season…….spacing it out might see an end to silly fees being paid.

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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:16 am 
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I think it is wrong and I've always expected it to be challenged in court and the same with the number of players being restricted.The powers that be would obviously prefer some people to be out of work. The PFA must agree with it as I've never heard them threaten to challenge it.

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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:26 am 
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derwent wrote:
I think it is wrong and I've always expected it to be challenged in court and the same with the number of players being restricted.The powers that be would obviously prefer some people to be out of work. The PFA must agree with it as I've never heard them threaten to challenge it.

or a case of this promotion of youth players where there is no restrictions to the numbers of em you have in a squad. there day will come if good enough but not to the exclusion of those who have played for years just because of the system and numbers that favour this.


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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:39 am 
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accrington fan wrote:
derwent wrote:
I think it is wrong and I've always expected it to be challenged in court and the same with the number of players being restricted.The powers that be would obviously prefer some people to be out of work. The PFA must agree with it as I've never heard them threaten to challenge it.

or a case of this promotion of youth players where there is no restrictions to the numbers of em you have in a squad. there day will come if good enough but not to the exclusion of those who have played for years just because of the system and numbers that favour this.


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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:44 pm 
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Its a fair system.
We just need to stop replacing shit with shit.
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It dosent work.
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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:21 pm 
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Its a fair system.
We just need to stop replacing shit with shit.
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It dosent work.
End of.

Now we’ve changed managers, he deserves a chance to bring someone in. I’m being selfish obviously, but still think the transfer window is not for suitable lgs1&2.
End of. :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:47 pm 
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Snowy wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Its a fair system.
We just need to stop replacing shit with shit.
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It dosent work.
End of.

Now we’ve changed managers, he deserves a chance to bring someone in. I’m being selfish obviously, but still think the transfer window is not for suitable lgs1&2.
End of. :laugh:


It isn't fit for purpose Snowy, you're absolutely right. There 's a world of difference between the top two leagues and the bottom two and that needs to be taken into account.
I also agree transfer windows are a frenzied feeding ground for agents, football's very own leeches.

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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:16 am 
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Like many things man made by the media to solicite interest in something that's not that interesting.

They try to portray it like the draft in American sports yet its nothing like it at all. Almost certainly Sky's doing.


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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:30 am 
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Brasil Brush wrote:
Like many things man made by the media to solicite interest in something that's not that interesting.

They try to portray it like the draft in American sports yet its nothing like it at all. Almost certainly Sky's doing.

It’s pathetic how the sports media big up the last day with breathless reporters outside the big clubs and gormless fans waiting outside like it’s Lourdes. Back to the studio …..
It’s about as exciting as a night in Skegness in January…in a tent.

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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:36 am 
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you can add changes in the laws of the game and referees stamping down on this and that and ignoring other things to make the game a better spectical. well they have really failed in that big style. back in the days of blood and guts football where players got kicked all over the pitch its funny how they came off i and were available for the next game even if it was tuesday night. now some innocuous tackle keeps em out for weeks on end. they may be fitter nowadays but very few can take a knock and not just at pools as well. i,m not talking about something from the mists of time but from when the premier league became all powerful and everything revolving around it and international boreball.


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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:40 am 
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Snowy wrote:
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It’s pathetic how the sports media big up the last day with breathless reporters outside the big clubs and gormless fans waiting outside like it’s Lourdes. Back to the studio …..
It’s about as exciting as a night in Skegness in January…in a tent.

all waiting for the new big signing to be announced and show him off in his sparkling new kit coming out answering the usual shite questions with the usual shite answers. possibly the last they,ll hear him speak as these characters rarely speak to fans even kids on matchdays.


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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:11 pm 
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Don't mind the transfer window. You have all summer to do your business - own fault if you balls it up. That goes for the manager you employ as well. You get another month in January to address any issues identified in the previous 4 months. At least gives clubs some level of stability. Doesn't stop people working either - if you are unattached, you can be signed.


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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:15 pm 
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Herr Flick wrote:
Don't mind the transfer window. You have all summer to do your business - own fault if you balls it up. That goes for the manager you employ as well. You get another month in January to address any issues identified in the previous 4 months. At least gives clubs some level of stability. Doesn't stop people working either - if you are unattached, you can be signed.

What purpose does it serve? It’s a restriction of business and for what?
If it’s that brilliant why doesn’t industry take it up. If you run out of parts you had plenty of time to order them in the summer and winter break…
You can tell disgruntled customers’ You have all summer to do your business- own fault if you balls it up’. not a good idea. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
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Herr Flick wrote:
Don't mind the transfer window. You have all summer to do your business - own fault if you balls it up. That goes for the manager you employ as well. You get another month in January to address any issues identified in the previous 4 months. At least gives clubs some level of stability. Doesn't stop people working either - if you are unattached, you can be signed.


They also restrict the numbers you can sign in the first place. You might be happy with your squad at the end of August but if you lose four or five for various reasons you can't even temporarily bring in loans to fill the gaps, never mind sign players other than the ones "on the unwanted shelves". That has an effect on the FA's plan to get more top academy players game time against men in the lower leagues so it also defeats one of their main aims.
I'm not a fan of the idea one little bit.

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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
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An always open transfer window favours club's with money. Poor start, wade in and buy. Perennial underachievers Bradford would probably have been promoted by now had they been able to address weaknesses at an earlier point in the season. As it is, they have to wait 4 months which levels the playing field when recruitment goes awry. Not sure industry is a great comparator. Be some injury crisis for you to "run out of parts". And it's not the customers who had all summer to sort their squad either is it?

I perhaps agree with the loan issue Derwent raises, but not with the limit on squad size - again having any number you like encourages the bigger teams to stockpile. Not sure the FA can bleat about top prospects getting no game time - they shouldn't have made it so easy for the Premier League clubs to ravage lower league club's academies for sod all money in the grand scheme of things. Most of these would be better off coming through at a Championship/League 1 club, then being bought, rather than being hoovered up by Chelsea at 13, and then nevEr seen again until released at 23, having spent 5 seasons on loan in Belgium/Holland.


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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 6:52 pm 
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Herr Flick wrote:
An always open transfer window favours club's with money. Poor start, wade in and buy. Perennial underachievers Bradford would probably have been promoted by now had they been able to address weaknesses at an earlier point in the season. As it is, they have to wait 4 months which levels the playing field when recruitment goes awry. Not sure industry is a great comparator. Be some injury crisis for you to "run out of parts". And it's not the customers who had all summer to sort their squad either is it?
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The industry comparison was an analogy, not actuality.
With the Xmas window the money clubs jump in on a limited window and any idea of clubs like Pools getting anyone is restricted. Your reference to Bradford City sounds to me like you favour a handicap on the more affluent clubs, why….?
The entire system favours the affluent clubs., or should that be effluent clubs. :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: The transfer window
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:41 am 
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on top of all this especially with the length of time it seems to take getting players back after they are injured you could have both your main signings that clubs have pushed the boat out to sign being out for months. then they have to be replaced either by second raters or move the team round to accomadate the best you have. no one to replace em, team starts dropping in the league and fans stay away. its not as if its about the haves and have nots anymore like one team having 17 signed on against opponents with 30 odd on the books. everyone with more or less the same where luck and injuries come into it more and more with possibly the promoted teams being just lucky in this respect making the whole thing more of a lottery.


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