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Just got my ancestry DNA results back from ‘Ancestry’ after 2 months.
…..turns out I’m 46% English, 18% Irish, 6% Danish …..and :shock: 31% Scottish :angry-tappingfoot:
On the plus side though I’m descended from Sir Walter Kerr Lord of Cessford in Jedburgh 1510 - 1584, however, even with my new coat of Arms and tartan, I still can’t forgive Hartley. :laugh:
On the positive side they were descended from Vikings. :laugh:

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You better be careful Snowy or the Gardai will be knocking at your door for the unsolved Dublin crime from the early 70's of
nicking some Guinness from O'Connell street.

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You better be careful Snowy or the Gardai will be knocking at your door for the unsolved Dublin crime from the early 70's of
nicking some Guinness from O'Connell street.

:doh: :uhoh:

Er, that must have been the one earlier who got jailed in Dublin three times in the 1860’s for GHH, ABH and common assault before heading to Hartlepool and settling down.
Funny how the truth is stranger than fiction….. explains the short temper and ginger hair, but that could be the Scot’s side too. :laugh:

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Thought you had bought some type of electrical device for a moment.


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How long did it take for Ratboy to accept you, Should have given you a heads up.lol


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So you and wee Jocky have more in common than was at first thought.


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So you and wee Jocky have more in common than was at first thought.

sadx sadx :oops: :oops: :oops: shit happens :laugh:

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How long did it take for Ratboy to accept you, Should have given you a heads up.lol

It was love at first sight :animals-dogrun:

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I thought this thread was about DNAs for appointments at the GP practices running at 25%.
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Just got my ancestry DNA results back from ‘Ancestry’ after 2 months.
…..turns out I’m 46% English, 18% Irish, 6% Danish …..and :shock: 31% Scottish :angry-tappingfoot:
On the plus side though I’m descended from Sir Walter Kerr Lord of Cessford in Jedburgh 1510 - 1584, however, even with my new coat of Arms and tartan, I still can’t forgive Hartley. :laugh:
On the positive side they were descended from Vikings. :laugh:


Not sure how professional that ancestry firm you used are Snowy old chap? but when you add up all of those percentages they total 101% :roll:

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Don't worry I guess you rounded some of them up?

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I’ve just checked back, looks like I cocked up, I’m 45% English…… I’m even more Celtic now :shock::laugh:

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I’ve just checked back, looks like I cocked up, I’m 45% English…… I’m even more Celtic now :shock::laugh:


I bet you are partial to a wee dram. :wink:


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I’ve just checked back, looks like I cocked up, I’m 45% English…… I’m even more Celtic now :shock::laugh:

another closet fan for the green and white hoops now.


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Odd thing with the Scots line is that the early generations were born in Scotland but to a man, died and were buried in a place called Fyn in Denmark. sctatchinghead

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Odd thing with the Scots line is that the early generations were born in Scotland but to a man, died and were buried in a place called Fyn in Denmark. sctatchinghead


It was probably known to them as the entrance to Valhalla.

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Tam or Jocky..who would you prefer to be known as now,Snowy?


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Tam or Jocky..who would you prefer to be known as now,Snowy?

Well …as the surname is of Danish origin, it appears they settled in the Scottish Borders….so if the jocks are Danish, just call me Lurpak :laugh:

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Tam or Jocky..who would you prefer to be known as now,Snowy?


No need to change it from the current John Paddy MacLarsen.... bbolt

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Thor McAllister has a ring about it..and what an entrance snowy would get on The Andy Stewart Show.. :cool:


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYoiCSt ... neOfficial


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Thor McAllister has a ring about it..and what an entrance snowy would get on The Andy Stewart Show.. :cool:


Nah, McAllister is an Argentinian surname.

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Tam or Jocky..who would you prefer to be known as now,Snowy?

or McSnowy?

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The one consolation was there were no Welsh genes to really bugger it up :laugh:

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Tam or Jocky..who would you prefer to be known as now,Snowy?

Well …as the surname is of Danish origin, it appears they settled in the Scottish Borders….so if the jocks are Danish, just call me Lurpak :laugh:

i,m getting frightened now as on my mothers side i heard my lot are from the border regions as well. half polish half a jock. certainly giving my family tree a wide birth as they say too much information. mclubelski just does not sound right.


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Tam or Jocky..who would you prefer to be known as now,Snowy?

Well …as the surname is of Danish origin, it appears they settled in the Scottish Borders….so if the jocks are Danish, just call me Lurpak :laugh:


Nah, that would be buttering you up !!!!

I'll get me coat. :shock:

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Tam or Jocky..who would you prefer to be known as now,Snowy?

Well …as the surname is of Danish origin, it appears they settled in the Scottish Borders….so if the jocks are Danish, just call me Lurpak :laugh:


Nah, that would be buttering you up !!!!

I'll get me coat. :shock:

no nordpak is a lot cheaper.


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Tam or Jocky..who would you prefer to be known as now,Snowy?

Well …as the surname is of Danish origin, it appears they settled in the Scottish Borders….so if the jocks are Danish, just call me Lurpak :laugh:

i,m getting frightened now as on my mothers side i heard my lot are from the border regions as well. half polish half a jock. certainly giving my family tree a wide birth as they say too much information. mclubelski just does not sound right.

I tried this about ten years ago and it was hard going, but with the new sites info available is really accessible and on tap.
It really is an eye opener and some surprising things crop up, I told my church going 87 year old Aunty her grandfather was illegitimate…she looked up and said …” he was always a bastard, no surprise their, a bad tempered, fighting cock of a blacksmith” . :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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leave bastards alone. think there are more of em around nowadays than those born in wedlock. no stigma at all attached to it unlike the bad old days.


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How do you know your DNA, they have to have a sample from your deceased, do you go about digging graves up?


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leave bastards alone. think there are more of em around nowadays than those born in wedlock. no stigma at all attached to it unlike the bad old days.

It was 1875 Mr A, they had rather sterner attitudes.

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How do you know your DNA, they have to have a sample from your deceased, do you go about digging graves up?

Simple, I give them a sample of my DNA which is analysed and is split 50/50 between my parents, then their parents etc, etc to give you an overall picture.
The DNA only indicated where your ancestors came from geographically, nothing else.
Then having access to family records can trace you self back a fair way but eventually you can compare your DNA origins against your family history and mine more or less matched up fairly neatly and put to bed a few fallacious tales I always wondered about.

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How do you know your DNA, they have to have a sample from your deceased, do you go about digging graves up?

Simple, I give them a sample of my DNA which is analysed and is split 50/50 between my parents, then their parents etc, etc to give you an overall picture.
The DNA only indicated where your ancestors came from geographically, nothing else.
Then having access to family records can trace you self back a fair way but eventually you can compare your DNA origins against your family history and mine more or less matched up fairly neatly and put to bed a few fallacious tales I always wondered about.


You sent them some thing to analyse in a laboratory?


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How do you know your DNA, they have to have a sample from your deceased, do you go about digging graves up?

Simple, I give them a sample of my DNA which is analysed and is split 50/50 between my parents, then their parents etc, etc to give you an overall picture.
The DNA only indicated where your ancestors came from geographically, nothing else.
Then having access to family records can trace you self back a fair way but eventually you can compare your DNA origins against your family history and mine more or less matched up fairly neatly and put to bed a few fallacious tales I always wondered about.


You sent them some thing to analyse in a laboratory?


You shit on a shovel, take it to the DNA desk in the Town Hall and they take as much as they need, process it and provide you with the information you require.
I thought everyone knew that.

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I had a Cavalier SRI that was "Shit off a shovel"when it came to speed but it didn't give me my DNA.

I'm a bit dubious of these DNA labs as it is easy to give you an answer that you are part Greek, part Dutch etc etc and you have no idea whether it is a load of bo**ocks or not.


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I think Snowsy’s post is a bit tongue in cheek, from my personal experience a DNA Test is around £300 per person and that was 7/8 years ago.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
I think Snowsy’s post is a bit tongue in cheek, from my personal experience a DNA Test is around £300 per person and that was 7/8 years ago.

Tongue in cheek my arse, I was actually trying to explain the process to you, but obviously wasting my time. :roll:
Yes, of course you have to pay, but nowhere near £300….. I received mine as a gift on my birthday as I’d been interested in the subject.
I send a sample of saliva to a laboratory from which they eventually extract my DNA and several weeks later I get the result from experts with brains bigger than mine and yours combined.

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I had a Cavalier SRI that was "Shit off a shovel"when it came to speed but it didn't give me my DNA.

I'm a bit dubious of these DNA labs as it is easy to give you an answer that you are part Greek, part Dutch etc etc and you have no idea whether it is a load of bo**ocks or not.

Mine matches up if you compare your DNA to your family tree, but that takes a lot more work going through documents and various dead ends in the paperwork, took me about five weeks on the principal lines but still working on the details to be filled in on the secondary stuff.
If you don’t believe in it, don’t do it.

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from my personal experience a DNA Test is around £300 per person and that was 7/8 years ago.





The Jeremy Kyle show?? :wink: I thought the show's producers picked up the tab.


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Snowy wrote:
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I had a Cavalier SRI that was "Shit off a shovel"when it came to speed but it didn't give me my DNA.

I'm a bit dubious of these DNA labs as it is easy to give you an answer that you are part Greek, part Dutch etc etc and you have no idea whether it is a load of bo**ocks or not.

Mine matches up if you compare your DNA to your family tree, but that takes a lot more work going through documents and various dead ends in the paperwork, took me about five weeks on the principal lines but still working on the details to be filled in on the secondary stuff.
If you don’t believe in it, don’t do it.


Correct me if I am wrong where do they get the DNA samples for your family tree from all those years ago to match up with yours, they don’t take DNA samples and register them when you die ?


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Right, I’ll make it so simple Ratboy could write a thesis on the subject.

You have 50% of you father’s DNA and fifty percent of mother’s DNA they in turn have fifty percent each of their mother and father and so it spreads out wider with each generation till you end up with a wide spectrum of sources from all those DNA’s which reveal themselves when analysed. The same system which the police and science in general allows an advancement in medical science and this produces a useful source to people’s origins.
Also most importantly, you still have to do the spadework of going through masses of documents to confirm your findings which is where the hard work begins as the DNA covers only a region or general area.
If you’re happy with a rough guide to you origins, then DNA is fine, I needed to do the detective work to know the people and that is a lot harder work but rewarding.

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Right, I’ll make it so simple Ratboy could write a thesis on the subject.

You have 50% of you father’s DNA and fifty percent of mother’s DNA they in turn have fifty percent each of their mother and father and so it spreads out wider with each generation till you end up with a wide spectrum of sources from all those DNA’s which reveal themselves when analysed. The same system which the police and science in general allows an advancement in medical science and this produces a useful source to people’s origins.
Also most importantly, you still have to do the spadework of going through masses of documents to confirm your findings which is where the hard work begins as the DNA covers only a region or general area.
If you’re happy with a rough guide to you origins, then DNA is fine, I needed to do the detective work to know the people and that is a lot harder work but rewarding.


Providing you have DNA of your nearest relatives, my mother and father have been dead for over 25 years so there would be no record of their DNA would there ?


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Right, I’ll make it so simple Ratboy could write a thesis on the subject.

You have 50% of you father’s DNA and fifty percent of mother’s DNA they in turn have fifty percent each of their mother and father and so it spreads out wider with each generation till you end up with a wide spectrum of sources from all those DNA’s which reveal themselves when analysed. The same system which the police and science in general allows an advancement in medical science and this produces a useful source to people’s origins.
Also most importantly, you still have to do the spadework of going through masses of documents to confirm your findings which is where the hard work begins as the DNA covers only a region or general area.
If you’re happy with a rough guide to you origins, then DNA is fine, I needed to do the detective work to know the people and that is a lot harder work but rewarding.


Providing you have DNA of your nearest relatives, my mother and father have been dead for over 25 years so there would be no record of their DNA would there ?

as he said its a rough guideline as your dead parents would show some simalarity to yours as your brothers and sisters have with you and your parents also will show similar ones with their family members. my only worry in sending my DNA to anyone is what they do with it once they give you the information. i really doubt it would be destroyed no matter what they say.


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Providing you have DNA of your nearest relatives, my mother and father have been dead for over 25 years so there would be no record of their DNA would there ?


YOU carry your parents DNA, your DNA is passed down to you from them.
We don’t need to obtain our parents DNA, we carry it in us.
You also carry lesser DNA from those that went before….One of my great grandparents was born in 1520, but I carry a micro percentage of her DNA…we carry the DNA of all who went before in smaller and smaller amounts the further back we go.

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my only worry in sending my DNA to anyone is what they do with it once they give you the information. i really doubt it would be destroyed no matter what they say.

To be honest I don’t really care, I’m not planning world domination, we’ll not yet, but it’s a bit like saying I’m not going to give blood because they can probably learn something from it….which they can actually.
Conspiracy theories run amok. :laugh:

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my only worry in sending my DNA to anyone is what they do with it once they give you the information. i really doubt it would be destroyed no matter what they say.

To be honest I don’t really care, I’m not planning world domination, we’ll not yet, but it’s a bit like saying I’m not going to give blood because they can probably learn something from it….which they can actually.
Conspiracy theories run amok. :laugh:

its a bit like ID cards though that some would like us to carry and the attempt to make you carry your own mobile phone around with you as you cannot exist without it. poing anything wrong so they can trace me if they want and ask for my ID if they wish. its the thought of being able to do this that bothers me and the less they know about me the happier i am. i just enjoy being an awkward bugger and always have been.


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my only worry in sending my DNA to anyone is what they do with it once they give you the information. i really doubt it would be destroyed no matter what they say.

To be honest I don’t really care, I’m not planning world domination, we’ll not yet, but it’s a bit like saying I’m not going to give blood because they can probably learn something from it….which they can actually.
Conspiracy theories run amok. :laugh:

its a bit like ID cards though that some would like us to carry and the attempt to make you carry your own mobile phone around with you as you cannot exist without it. poing anything wrong so they can trace me if they want and ask for my ID if they wish. its the thought of being able to do this that bothers me and the less they know about me the happier i am. i just enjoy being an awkward bugger and always have been.


You have a National Insurance Number, the authorities can track you using that, I don’t understand the resistance to ID Cards as providing all it would have is your N.I. No. and a photo.

If you have a mobile phone you can be tracked every time you switch it on.

I got into a fracas 40 years ago, got arrested, finger printed, contested it, not guilty, the Police said they would destroy my fingerprints, did they ?


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Providing you have DNA of your nearest relatives, my mother and father have been dead for over 25 years so there would be no record of their DNA would there ?


YOU carry your parents DNA, your DNA is passed down to you from them.
We don’t need to obtain our parents DNA, we carry it in us.
You also carry lesser DNA from those that went before….One of my great grandparents was born in 1520, but I carry a micro percentage of her DNA…we carry the DNA of all who went before in smaller and smaller amounts the further back we go.


Apologies Snowy, not being awkward, I carry the DNA of a far flung relative so how do they match that DNA to that relative who could have been about before DNA was introduced or probably never had a DNA Test ?
I would like to do a family tree as I know very little about my Fathers Mother and Father who has passed before I came into this world.
What was your ‘starting’ point Snowy, googled family trees and came up with loads, do I need a DNA sample, currently abroad ?


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 Post subject: Re: DNA shock.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:20 pm 
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Jamie1952 wrote:

Apologies Snowy, not being awkward, I carry the DNA of a far flung relative so how do they match that DNA to that relative who could have been about before DNA was introduced or probably never had a DNA Test ?
We all have DNA….as each generation goes back it diminishes in quantity as your ancestors double with each generation so the further back it goes the weaker it is, but it still shows up only in a smaller amounts. You have DNA, everyone does, it’s always been there but unlocked recently.

I would like to do a family tree as I know very little about my Fathers Mother and Father who has passed before I came into this world.
I was gifted access to the site I use which is ‘Ancestry .com’ but most of the information on the web site will take you back to the 1841 census and subsequent ones which is great for finding your way about.

What was your ‘starting’ point Snowy, googled family trees and came up with loads, do I need a DNA sample, currently abroad ?
If you’re just doing a family tree you don’t need a sample as the DNA just tells you where all you ancestors originated from, it holds no details, it’s just a general breakdown of your Ethnicity.
It’s the family tree that gives you the important stuff and that’s where the work is at collating the information, but this new site is really good compared to what they were 10 years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: DNA shock.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:09 pm 
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You have a National Insurance Number, the authorities can track you using that, I don’t understand the resistance to ID Cards as providing all it would have is your N.I. No. and a photo.

If you have a mobile phone you can be tracked every time you switch it on.

I got into a fracas 40 years ago, got arrested, finger printed, contested it, not guilty, the Police said they would destroy my fingerprints, did they ?

the cynic in me says they have not and its one extra set they have if you were a naughty boy.


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