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 Post subject: Odusina
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:32 pm 
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Timmi has joined Bradford City on a three year deal. Thanks for the last couple of years and wish you best of luck.


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 Post subject: Re: Odusina
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So two of our best players have run their contacts down and departed for pastures new, Doncaster and Bradford.
What happened to the better clubs that were supposedly in for them.


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part of one of the worst defences in league 2 last year..only 5 teams conceded more goals..timi is fast for a central defender but that's about it...gets bullied and is weak in the air when it matters in the box...will watch his career development with interest..the new rio?..very much doubt it....we shall see... :laugh:


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This move was mooted weeks ago. Why has he waited, probably waiting for Challinor. Like Mols not as good as he thinks. Not really a career move but will be better off financially.


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Very sad to see Timi go and to a rival division club. I wish him all the best but have to say he appeared to love HUFC and its fans much less than many of us thought of him. So Bradford City along with Stockport County will obviously be the big two that the pundits will big up and the upside of course is two good home crowds and the downside of course will be the chew that is probably inevitable. Hope not but seen it all before especially with BCFC who on their day can make Leeds United look like choirboys. The fans that is.


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Stockport just signed Horsfall from the Cobblers


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 Post subject: Re: Odusina
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Hearing Omar Bogle is next out the door…


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 Post subject: Re: Odusina
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Just over a year since the play-off final win against Torquay and Pools have 5 players left out of the 16 man squad for the game - Sterry, Ferguson, Featherstone, Shelton and substitute keeper Killip.

Didn't see that coming!


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 Post subject: Re: Odusina
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I like timi, he was a cavalier, high energy defender who put a shift in during games. On the down side he sometimes made silly mistakes and could still show a bit of naivety and wasn’t quite the finished product in the aerial department, but his dogged persistence countered this and you had to admire his full commitment, unlike some of the statues he played alongside.
However, things move on, nothing stays the same, he has been expected to depart for weeks like Molyneux….. yet people seem disappointed they stayed in the same division, but that’s the market assessment of them.
It’s a bit like when DC left and people were saying he’d be back to take just about everyone to join him in Stockport, another myth that died the the death and was quietly buried at midnight by the ‘experts’.
We’re getting a new team together, moping at what was, or could have been, never fixed anything.
Move on, they have….. and I doubt they even looked back.

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 Post subject: Re: Odusina
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Agree with a lot of what you say Snowy, but Pools and player retention is an issue. When compared against those who DO retain their best. A new team every season is not conducive to progression and building.


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 Post subject: Re: Odusina
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thebigdog wrote:
Agree with a lot of what you say Snowy, but Pools and player retention is an issue. When compared against those who DO retain their best. A new team every season is not conducive to progression and building.


Ye its a bad trend but its hard to get your better players on longer contracts when you non league for 4 seasons.
Hopefully its a thing of the past as Joe Grey is now got a decent length contract which benefits club n player.
But i think Bogle n Carver have fell on there feet getting 2.5 year contracts.
Maybe PH can get them back on track because they Dident look to clever from march to May.
Still a major Frontline problem at Pools in my opinion.
Not sure freebies can solve that problem IMHO.
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 Post subject: Re: Odusina
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:02 am 
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Snowy wrote:
I like timi, he was a cavalier, high energy defender who put a shift in during games. On the down side he sometimes made silly mistakes and could still show a bit of naivety and wasn’t quite the finished product in the aerial department, but his dogged persistence countered this and you had to admire his full commitment


Seconded !

"At this stage of my career, I wanted a home and an environment to nurture, and a three-year contract shows that. When you are given an opportunity like this, you have to take it" Timi said on the City website

A bit of a terse Official Site announcement, in comparison to the one for Molyneux? He came for free & there's chance of more fees for him. In giving Grey a 3-year contract, perhaps the lessons about player retention are being learned - now do the same for Sterry please.

Bradford also signed Romoney Crichlow on a season long loan from Huddersfield. No surprises seeing as:-

"Bradford City AFC is delighted to announce over 14,000 early-bird ‘Own The Moment’ season-ticket sales ahead of the 2022/23 season - a League Two record for the club.
Having gone on sale on Thursday April 14, the early-bird period saw prices FROZEN from the 2021/22 campaign at just £198 (Adult).
The current figure of 14,036 beats City’s previous League Two season-ticket sales record of 13,614, set ahead of the 2019/20 campaign."

Their adult season tickets now range from £300-£420


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 Post subject: Re: Odusina
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thebigdog wrote:
Agree with a lot of what you say Snowy, but Pools and player retention is an issue. When compared against those who DO retain their best. A new team every season is not conducive to progression and building.

There’s two problems on the retention front, last season was a pigs ear management wise and we seemed on reflection to be on the road to nowhere. Money wise we are still up against it and even at this level silly money is being thrown around by certain sugar daddy clubs which going by the Stockport revelation we were never in with a chance of matching. I think it’s been a steep learning curve over the past couple of years and believe Hartley is the man to start sorting things out into some sort of order while expecting a lot more commitment wise from players.
However I do think a three year contract at this level has to be for a proven player, because if you buy a pup, you’re lumbered and it’s money that could be better spent elsewhere.

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 Post subject: Re: Odusina
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However I do think a three year contract at this level has to be for a proven player, because if you buy a pup, you’re lumbered and it’s money that could be better spent elsewhere.

thing is that if other clubs are offering length of contracts that long then pools really have to match them. it horizon. can be a road to ruin though as you could be stuck with someone who is crap and they refuse to move on no matter what clubs do. everything is a gamble with signings but if you do not do it the club could stagnate with another national league hovering on the horizon. as for timi i wish him luck even though my opinions of him seemed to change after every couple of games. bradford will certainly need a big beast along side him to pick up most sides big man.


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 Post subject: Re: Odusina
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[quote="kevin pooles gloves"][
But i think Bogle n Carver have fell on there feet getting 2.5 year contracts.
Maybe PH can get them back on track because they Dident look to clever from march to May.
he might have a chance with bogle but carver is what he is a decent national league north player who will not improve at his age. doubt he,d make the top 5 in that league never mind being a reasonable player for pools.


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thebigdog wrote:
Hearing Omar Bogle is next out the door…

Yes that's the latest rumour.


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 Post subject: Re: Odusina
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Bradford have supported Mark Hughes a lot more than they did last season with Derrick Adams, the increased season ticket prices has given them a lot more funds. We can't compete financially with them and Doncaster with larger budgets. It's just the way life is sadly. You need sugar daddies like Stockport, Salford or Mansfield to compete on our turnover, Raj isn't, but you can't blame him for not having the funds.

Lee never got the credit he deserved for transforming Timi's career after he was jetisoned by Challinor, he looked good quality at this level under Lee.

WE need some midfielders and attackers to keep us out of the bottom 4 or 5 now. Looking very short on goals!


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 Post subject: Re: Odusina
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[quote="Snailwood2"]Bradford have supported Mark Hughes a lot more than they did last season with Derrick Adams, the increased season ticket prices has given them a lot more funds. We can't compete financially with them and Doncaster with larger budgets. It's just the way life is sadly. You need sugar daddies like Stockport, Salford or Mansfield to compete on our turnover, Raj isn't, but you can't blame him for not having the funds.

pools should be looking at the likes of div.1 morecambe and accrington who both together have less home fans than pools get for a game. we cannot match the bankrolled sides but surely we could do better than those two plus others.


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thebigdog wrote:
Hearing Omar Bogle is next out the door…

On a decent length contract. Better be a good fee involved...


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 Post subject: Re: Odusina
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accy.."pools should be looking at the likes of div.1 morecambe and accrington who both together have less home fans than pools get for a game. we cannot match the bankrolled sides but surely we could do better than those two plus others."

https://www.lancashirebusinessview.co.u ... at-more-uk

..the reason for accringtons success..please note the numbers and turnover of holts business..with all due respect forget all your silly shite about attendances.. "less home fans than pools"...ffs.. :roll:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwoG81JlqFU ....yet again...


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 Post subject: Re: Odusina
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andy holt has thrown most of his money at accringtons ground and only increased the playing budget slightly to be more competitive. the thing is they also have dipped into the national league north by signing dion charles and colby bishop who both knotched some goals for them. when pools did it we got marcus carver. know less about morecambe but there must have been good recruitment there apart from cole stockton who was available to anyone at the time but they took a punt on him. we,ll no later next month if our recruitment has been good or not and whether your mate with the laptop has had any input at all with any signings.


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Ph has a budget plus the money for Timi. He has started recruiting at the back and midfield. This tactic will reveal how much is left to recruit a striker or two. If the rumours are correct re Bogle, I wonder if he has looked at Omar and said no thank you. So, if Omar does go for a fee, and that money also goes into the playing budget, Ph knows exactly what he has left to recruit strikers. Get Carver off loaded back to the national league, Cook assessed and either let go or kept on a pay as you play, and the decks are clear.

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accy.."less home fans than pools"

..as well as accrington...go check out attendances at harrogate salford FGR sutton...means jack shit at our level..start moaning about attendances when we start getting bradfords 15000 a game in league 2..ffs.. :roll:


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accy.."less home fans than pools"

..as well as accrington...go check out attendances at harrogate salford FGR sutton...means jack shit at our level..start moaning about attendances when we start getting bradfords 15000 a game in league 2..ffs.. :roll:

come on those teams you have mentioned are rich mens play toys and bradford have a massive championship side ground in a city. pools are not unique at all where attendances more or less keep the club going. if we had only 2,000 rolling up to the vic we would have a problem.


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accy..."we,ll no later next month if our recruitment has been good or not and whether your mate with the laptop has had any input at all with any signings."

...suspect joe 90 is just a gopher...has nothing to do with decisions at all..the way it should be..plays on his computer all day and gets the phone and takes messages..a conduit between agents and hartley.....if our recruitment is good or bad it will be down to hartley...sooner boneheads mate is gone the better.. waste of a wage..:roll:


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accy..."rich mens play toys

yep..like a boat load of others including accrington and morecambe...who get "less home fans than pools"..so have a think about it with regards to bollox about what attendances mean in terms of playing budgets and the like.. :roll:


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Ph has a budget plus the money for Timi. He has started recruiting at the back and midfield. This tactic will reveal how much is left to recruit a striker or two. If the rumours are correct re Bogle, I wonder if he has looked at Omar and said no thank you. So, if Omar does go for a fee, and that money also goes into the playing budget, Ph knows exactly what he has left to recruit strikers. Get Carver off loaded back to the national league, Cook assessed and either let go or kept on a pay as you play, and the decks are clear.


More signings promised, according to an interview with Paul Hartley in today's Mail:

“We’ve been so busy, and putting in so many hours. Myself and Gordon and the rest of the staff,” said Hartley.

“Chris Trotter has been brilliant. He’s been doing so much work behind the scenes, he’s a really important person for me. So I’m loving it so far, [but] we want to get to the real stuff.

“I can promise to the Hartlepool fans that there’s a lot more to come,” Hartley added.

“There’s more signings coming in. We want to make the team stronger and to be able to compete in the league.”


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poolie1 wrote:
accy.."less home fans than pools"

..as well as accrington...go check out attendances at harrogate salford FGR sutton...means jack shit at our level..start moaning about attendances when we start getting bradfords 15000 a game in league 2..ffs.. :roll:


Off course attendances play a major part in budgets.
Keeping 5000 fans on board shudent be underated.
Its not just the entry fee that generates good income for Pools.
Cant be arsed to do a full list of all the xtra benefits financially 5000 cash generates.
The Chairmans stated on numerous occasions we got a promotion budget.
As for Salford Harrogate they were still in the lowest efl division last time i checked.
Fairplay to
Accrington Morecombe n Fleetwood for staying up in league One.
Wont of just been money that kept them up.
Good Management n Good ethic team spirit in the lower divisions can play a major part in results.
The Vic pitch looking good by the way.
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gloves.."Off course attendances play a major part in budgets"

..of course....how much is a "major part"?...tell me where does the rest come from?...and why is it that large villages with clubs like burton albion are doing better than us?..its just not right is it ..just "shirt n tie burglary" like.. :laugh:

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gloves.."Off course attendances play a major part in budgets"

..of course....how much is a "major part"?...tell me where does the rest come from?...and why is it that large villages with clubs like burton albion are doing better than us?..its just not right is it ..just "shirt n tie burglary" like.. :laugh:

https://fanbanter.co.uk/average-attenda ... on-so-far/


Contact Raj n im sure he will tell you our fans crowd income n last seasons cup runs are a MAJOR part in our promotion push this season.
Keep the Faith PoorlyBoy1 wont be long before we mixing it with Greatham Hart Elwick Dalton Piercy and all the other top Village Teams.
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Pools are still growing - we are transitioning from the god aweful last decade we have had to endure - this is a turning point for me in our history - new management with new ideas - taking the club forwards as it should be and changing the culture - we have been a small club with small mentality these last couple of years - Since DC came with the success we are slowly building back to where we should be ! like PH said we are a sleeping giant and its true ! there is more signings to come an no doubt be 1 or 2 big ones too.


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gloves.."Contact Raj n im sure he will tell you our fans crowd income n last seasons cup runs are a MAJOR part in our promotion push this season"

..wot about burton albion...and other villages like fleetwood morecambe accrington harrogate sutton salford FGR etc.....are their home attendances a MAJOR part in their promotion push? ...wot do ya think glovesy?..where's our "profits" going man?.."care homes"?.."shirt n tie burglary"?.. ffs...???? :laugh:


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gloves.."Contact Raj n im sure he will tell you our fans crowd income n last seasons cup runs are a MAJOR part in our promotion push this season"

..wot about burton albion...and other villages like fleetwood morecambe accrington harrogate sutton salford FGR etc.....are their home attendances a MAJOR part in their promotion push? ...wot do ya think glovesy?..where's our "profits" going man?.."care homes"?.."shirt n tie burglary"?.. ffs...???? :laugh:


I think your a total Bellend now fuck off to a desert island n do the full world a favour.
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gloves.."Contact Raj n im sure he will tell you our fans crowd income n last seasons cup runs are a MAJOR part in our promotion push this season"

..wot about burton albion...and other villages like fleetwood morecambe accrington harrogate sutton salford FGR etc.....are their home attendances a MAJOR part in their promotion push? ...wot do ya think glovesy?..where's our "profits" going man?.."care homes"?.."shirt n tie burglary"?.. ffs...???? :laugh:



Painful... to... read... this... like... with... all... these...


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gerry....."Painful... to... read... this... like... with... all... these.."

...try...some..paracetamol..like..if..you...want..and..you..know..there..maybe..another..option..for..you..if...that dont...work...can you guess what it is pal..?


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gloves..."I think your a total Bellend now fuck off"

...ditto.. :laugh: :obscene-moneypiss:


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poolie1 wrote:
gloves.."Contact Raj n im sure he will tell you our fans crowd income n last seasons cup runs are a MAJOR part in our promotion push this season"

..wot about burton albion...and other villages like fleetwood morecambe accrington harrogate sutton salford FGR etc.....are their home attendances a MAJOR part in their promotion push? ...wot do ya think glovesy?..where's our "profits" going man?.."care homes"?.."shirt n tie burglary"?.. ffs...???? :laugh:

so are you accusing raj of pocketing the extra revenue the club made last season. more likely a case of banking it as he realised he made a mistake with lee after seeing his appointments on and off the pitch. a good reason for his sacking more so than a bad run in at the end of the season after the club reached their pre season goal in the league. would not have given him a bag full of forged fivers to bring in more crap to relagate us.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
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gloves.."Contact Raj n im sure he will tell you our fans crowd income n last seasons cup runs are a MAJOR part in our promotion push this season"

..wot about burton albion...and other villages like fleetwood morecambe accrington harrogate sutton salford FGR etc.....are their home attendances a MAJOR part in their promotion push? ...wot do ya think glovesy?..where's our "profits" going man?.."care homes"?.."shirt n tie burglary"?.. ffs...???? :laugh:


I think your a total Bellend now fuck off to a desert island n do the full world a favour.
:-o :laugh:


Its a lot easier if you just ignore. As soon as you the strange, dot ridden paragraphs and the pointless YouTube link you know to just keep scrolling.


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accy.."so are you accusing raj of pocketing the extra revenue the club made last season"

...me?..of course not me...ffs no..."care homes and shirt n tie burglary" ?...nah...those are mr gloves ideas...and the knuckle-dragger doesn't like being reminded of them ...give me a min and i will dig out the post ... :laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwoG81JlqFU again..


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impy.."Its a lot easier if you just ignore"

..please please continue... :sad-bored: :laugh:


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