A bit of light tv viewing on BBC2 at 7pm

As soon as I saw Kuensburg was involved, I decided to swerve it. Someone who thinks holding a glass of an alcoholic drink at work is classed as drinking at work but holding a bottle of beer at work is not drinking at work cannot be taken seriously.

Lol still clutching at them straws I see.

Bloody hell i have just seen Jill Mortimer speaking in parliament during the partygate questions just now.
Truly awful.

Johnson is very lucky every time some thing crops against him up it’s ‘buried’, first brexit, then Covid come along, party gate then the war, will the monkey pox be the next thing ?

As a matter of fact I detest drinking through straws, whether it be in the consumption of alcoholic drinks or otherwise.
However I also see the usual double standards being clutched at by people who willingly attack one person, whilst not attacking another simply because of which political party they belong to.
My position is that both leaders of the government and opposition respectively are guilty of covid rule breaking and in the true tradition of British fair play are therefore as guilty as each other. One has apologised profusely and repeatedly and the other can't even see that drinking beer during what he describes as "a working event" was against the rules.
What I find worrying is that there are people in this country who will vote for a party who has as it's leader a man who doesn't know a bottle of beer when he sees one, just like he failed to recognise the activities of one James Saville.

No, Johnson is the only one to be of found guilty for breaking covid rules (the ones he set - how embarrassing) hence the fine from the police. He also repeatedly lied to the HoC and to the British Public - a resignation offence.

What I find worrying is people will believe anything that comes out the fat oaf's mouth, despite him being found out several times for being a complete and utter liar with zero morals.

I must say I find it frankly bizarre that some of the beggars are not prepared to state what a woman is. A plague on all of their houses as far as I am concerned.

BJ is simply a liar and has taken this country down a black hole of immorality since he has been in power. He is a man creating a culture where lying is seen to be ok which is toxic to most law abiding people.
The expression of Theresa May when he is blathering tells you it all.

Ah, so you are basing your argument on a technicality. There is still time for Starmer to be found guilty.
Technically Bojo didn't break the rules. In an emergency situation where temporary rules are put into force, those rules do not apply on Crown land and Downing Street is Crown land. The place where Starmer was quaffing ale isn't Crown land so he was breaking the rules and should be fined as such.
Having made the rules Bojo should have set an example and followed them but he didn't have to.
I don't think people believe everything that comes out of any politician's mouth but it is a fact that the country prefer to let Bojo get on with the job, whereas they don't trust people like Corbyn, Abbott, Starmer et al.
Instead of attacking your fat oaf, you should be pressurising Starmer to get himself and his party electable.
Unlike the MSM I don't expect the PM to be perfect but I expect him to be capable. Nobody jumps out at me as a replacement so I'll stick with the devil I know.......fat oaf or not.

boris in the clear...as expected....now for beergate...i expect durham police will do a fair impartial and thorough investigation just like the met...lets see that pathetic champagne socialist squirm now..

Politicians telling porkies, now there is a revelation. Wasn't it Mr Horden who referred to Blair as Tony Bliar.
Starmer spent hours in the beergate meeting with Angela Rayner and repeatedly said she wasn't there.
Did Boris drag the MSM down the immoral black hole of lying cos I can assure you they were already there when I was born, which was well before Bojo.

blue..."The expression of Theresa May when he is blathering tells you it all."

..who cares?..would expect nothing else from someone who many people regard as one of the worst prime ministers this country has ever had..

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... t-windrush

BJ has taken this to new low levels and i bet the Labour party dont want him to be replaced.

blue..."a black hole of immorality"

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -assaulted

The best argument you blue rinse trumpys have for Boris not going is 'starmer had a beer at a meeting'.
At least my local MP came up with 'it'll take a long time to replace him' - laughable.
He is a lying buffoon who is taking the piss out of the country's people.

Cue the Trotsky jibes.

Is that why one after the other of them keep insisting he resigns, led by the thick one and flash me knickers (assuming she remembers to put some on)??????????????

Who is the thick one?

I don't think many people would class Bojo as a trotskyite.

The thick one is the one who is trying to get Bojo booted out and can't see that by doing that he empties his armoury of anti Bojo missiles at the next election and allows the Tories the chance to regain favour.
His feet must be full of holes.

I meant directed at me.

ball..."He is a lying buffoon who is taking the piss out of the country's people."

..who are you talking about comrade...?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 84540.html

The Tory party must be squirming at the thought of a general election with him in charge.

And Starmer is trying to help them get rid of him, and his little fat mate from the SNP (another thicko) is trotting alongside him.
You couldn't make it up.
Mind you they always look better in opposition. Taking a wage for doing nowt.

Give it a rest lads, fact is most people don’t give a flying fuck ……and all I read on here is a bunch of handed down family political mantra’s that cancel each other out….save your collective breath
I don’t give a sh*t I’m a Canute.

Give it a rest.... from snowy

We don't half need the season to start so we can talk to each other again about the mighty Pools. Or maybe just some signings or a manager or something.

While people are dying in Ukraine and the energy prices are rocketing, I'm not that bothered whether Boris had a sherry at Christmas or not. The media are desperate to build the story whereas most of the country don't care.

Latest research shows most of the country do care.

Whose research and based on what question?

I refer the honourable gentlemen to the example given in Yes Prime Minister..

Do you think its a good idea for young people to have guns?
No.
(goes down as a cross in the anti military column)

Do you think its a good idea for young people to be taught self disciple and how to look after themselves?
Yes
(goes down as a cross in the pro-military column)

Yougov survey:
Should Boris resign? - 59% said yes

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouGov

Pick your survey choose your result, it’s never hard to get a result to suit your obsession.

Yeah , give it a rest from snowy.

I might like to debate the point over footy, but politics of this nature, is just a peacock display of pathetic ingrained political prejudices from ALL sides and they ALL think they’re right, like mountain goats banging away at head butting and convincing no one but themselves.

Your implicit suggestion is that any of these polls are representative. Ir depends on which group posts the most links. 59% of what by the way and what number? If its the Labour party membership then its a poor show, if its the Conservative membership then its concerning for Boris.

The reality is that the only poll that matters is at the election.

doesn,t it show how the country has got nowadays when they see this as important when MrIrrelevant states what the real issues are. whatever rules johnson and stamer have broken it will not help us putting food on the table and heating and lighting our homes come autumn. just wonder how many of those who do care broke or twisted covid rules to suit themselves. i know i did every bleeding day and i,m not ashamed by it.

[quote="ed-t-ball"]Yougov survey:
Should Boris resign? - 59% said yes

and how many wanted him to go before all this partygate came out. actually it should be lower as it gives any non tory party,s a better chance to be elected. never liked the bloke myself even when some found him a laugh on question time.

I am firmly in the I don’t care if Boris or Starmer had a drink/party however when asked about party’s
Boris there was no parties- evidence produced he was lying.
Boris there may have been parties but I wasn’t there - evidence produced he was lying
Boris there may have been parties but I didn’t know it was a party - evidence produced he was drinking and went to 8 of them and was fined for it.
Maybe people just like liars as Prime Ministers.

Brilliant programme.
The Nazis were masters of propaganda but the modern MSM and the BBC in particular make them look like Cinderella.

Like Mr Accy I too broke the rules but I didn't set out to break them.
An elderly gentleman slipped as he got off the bus.
My instinct was to help him but the two metre rule was in place.
So what did I do???
What would any of the people reading this have done???
Yeah that's what I did.
And that was what the driver did, and other passers by, and other passengers.
I would dare bet that none of the people showing concern gave covid rules a second's thought at the time. They may have done so later but later is too late and all should have been reprimanded or even fined...............technically. Fortunately technicalities went to the back burner and human kindness and concern for the welfare of an old man kicked in.

I wonder how many people of Hartlepool could name their MP?
I bet since Mandy very few.
Depressing!
We need a political heavyweight to get things that are desperately needed done.

Not this;
HS2 £89,000,000,000 (£89 billion)
Cross Rail £19,000,000,000 (£19 billion)
Tees Valley DfT £310,000,000 (£0.3 of £1 billion) planned?
Hartlepool Station £13,000,000 (inc in TV DfT above) or bugger all in real terms

Levelling up ?

..ball..."Should Boris resign? - 59% said yes"

..the population are told everyday by the bbc and MSM that boris is a liar...tbh would expect the polling to be a lot worse...over 40% say he shouldn't resign..good result that comrade..

You can always campaign to get our previous Labour MP back…he’s very well known, but not necessarily for all the right reason.

you mean like the council who always find money for vanity projects for the few but do little to help the majority in their every day lives. the first two are london related and doing up the station will not bring more trains to the station. you can hear it now, lets go on the train because the station has been smartened up. doubt it.

The £13 million is to bring the disused platform 1 back into operation. Hartlepool is the highest footfall of any station with only one platform (platform 2:) ) in the UK. The town has been neglected by all and this is just another example. From what I can make of the plans the reopened platform is going to get a cheap wood roof rather than replicating what was origionally there and to look the metal roof on the other side of the line.
Only having one platform greatly inhibits traffic flow which causes delay and disruption whi h has been going on since 1990 when the footbridge was removed and the platform mothballed.
Giving the eye-watering sums spent elsewhere I think the station should be restored to it former state not a bodge job which will get our politicians some good photo opportunities.

Think we all know that if this was some overated must go to southern tourist destination then we would have a station everyone could be proud of including train services people want. where is call this levelling up when you need it.

I can’t believe for one minute that station revamp has cost £13m. Grand Central aside we have two trains an hour, knackered, scruffy old rolling stock that rattles through, that stops running at some ungodly early hour.
Just come back last night from the south coast and the trains down there are smart, presentable and actually appealing….. our trains are decades behind and before anyone points a finger at the government, no government has done sod all when in power.
When Labour was asked to reverse the folly of de-regulation of the buses which in my eyes has been a disaster, they looked the other way. Wasn’t our MP at the time a minister in the dept of transport who prior to getting into office criticised it….?
No government has splashed the cash on public transport unless it was within the M25 and it came by the skip load…”.another underground line sir?”

To be fair they have improved the rolling stock and the timetable has improved but is far from what you get elsewhere in the UK.
No party comes out of this well.
This £13 million is peanuts in railway terms and decades overdue but my point is that this spend is on the cheap when our station should be restored to the architecture pre 1990 not some glorified wooden shelter.
The money is there in the TV allocation so let's have some of it or is the vast bulk allocated to Middlesbrough or Darlo.
As an aside Seaton has only one ticket machine on the southern platform.........not good if you are going north. Now if you get on a train without a ticket it's a £20 fine. Try getting from one platform to the other with the banks and stairs........basic minimum again.

The Boro and Darlo always come out smelling of roses, especially the Boro.
Come on man the rolling stock is shite, well past it’s sell by date, get around the country and see..
We got some blurb about millions being pumped into Tees Valley buses and after digging into the on line proposals found it would pay for new services from Hartlepool, Stockton, Darlo and Redcar all terminating at the …..Boro.
Hartlepool’s service is improvement is to the 36, the tortuous every house and corner route to the Boro that takes for ever….er, so what are they spending it on, because from what I can see nowt’s changed.

The "pacers" trains have been replaced with what i think are refurbished class 156/157/158 which i think are called "super sprinters" "yes castoffs"
Without doubt all is being sucked towards Middlesbrough something i have seen before and for what reason i dont know.
Express busses are needed across Teesside not as you say street by street bus routes.