Has signed

i just dont believe it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGl2IbhyKIc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVAX166QwrU

Horrendous decision by Pools but not surprised one bit.
Still being run non league style with zero ambition to get to league One.

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Hell’s Bell’s and buckets of blood NO, NO,!!!!!!!!!
Not happy about this.

i am just going outside....and may be some time......

I really hope this isnt a sign of things to come from the club … i honestly thought he wouldnt of been offered an extension but then again the backroom staff seem to rate him highly at the club. Dimi perhaps had a say in this … ?

My hoping is … this is a greatly precautionary move as to secure us at least a
Man between the sticks before the season starts. If he becomes the number 2 in which i believe he should be then so be it. I presume the new manager will take one look at him in training (as Spike did) and try bring in a new number 1.

Is this a wind up, please tell me it is…pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?

Or as Cooper did with Williams after that first day match at Peterborough and never played him again.

Maybe as back up goal keeper after we sign Gordon Banks?

I think Dimi's influence over him is bearing a bit of fruit. This coming season is surely his big chance. Unless he takes that chance it will probably be his last.

Can we afford another chance….?

Nope. He is in his mid 20s and has been a professional goalkeeper all his adult life. It does not matter who coaches/mentors him, he wont get any better because he just does not have the ability. He is a decent shot stopper but he has no idea how to deal with crosses.

I think we’ve been blessed with really good goalkeepers over the years, the likes of Flinders, Carson and Loach over the last decade. Whilst Killip isn’t on the same levels as those mentioned, he certainly isn’t a bad goalkeeper. Sure, he’s not the finished article and there’s elements of his game that require improvement but most goalkeepers in this division have flaws.

Well done Ben, glad you’re staying. Bit of an unsung hero for us over the last two seasons!

There is a consensus in general that we need a new keeper, he’s too erratic and does he command the confidence of his defenders? I think this is a major mistake and don’t have some silly guilt thing about keeping him on as No 2 either.
A clean break was needed and this does not fill me with confidence at all.
Disappointing.

He is our number 1 keeper and will remain so and in 12 months time, we will probobly be discussing his exact same faults he had 2 years ago. If this is the sign of things to come then it's going to be a tough old battle next season.

When do we announce cook? Go on pools do it for a laugh.

Pools have taken up his option, not actually given him a new contract

That sounds to me like he’s on the road to a contract.
Is this also a sign Lee would have given him a contract.

If right that Pools have extended Killip's contract they should surely be on the look out for another keeper. One I would suggest is Mark Howard at Carlisle Who swept the board at their player of the year awards and was instrumental in keeping them in the league.

Extended his contract…..? What to…..? The twelfth of never….?
I’d play safe Mr E and be on the lookout for two keepers.

He's a Hartlepool player till June 2023. If (God help us) the new manager thinks he's worth holding onto next spring there would be a new contract negotiation then.

It remains to be seen whether Pools stick with a loan keeper as back up next season or revert to having 2 experienced keepers on the books to vie for the No.1 spot.

The lad Patrick Boyes has been around a few clubs but hasn't played above U-18 level. It remains to be seen whether he'll be retained or released this summer.

only way we,ll get away with another season with flapper is if pools sign loads of lands well over 6ft who can defend corners and set pieces. its bad when i had more faith in a kid from huddersfield who looked more mature in the two games he played than killip has ever done.

The lad from Bradford whom we had been linked with back in Jan is out of contract - as are many other GKs in this league - Bouzanis is one but no doubt i think he could play higher and might even end up away from Sutton. Either way there is keepers out there looking for new contracts. Killip made no effort what so ever for Colchesters first goal last week - this was bread and butter stuff for a big commanding GK. I wasnt even surprised when he did the little that he did to prevent the goal.

Pre season will be interesting this year - new manager (i hope by then). who will have time to assess our GK options and not just panic loan a kid in for cover - again this comes with a propa manager who knows what he is doing at this level and knows what he needs.

I find it interesting that the Killip bashers think they know more about goalkeeping than the professionals at the club, including Dimi who must have had a say.
I know nowt so leave it to them that do.
Nobody perfect plays in league 2, I know that much.

We messed about with keepers in the conference and it virtually cost us right up until the final minute.
I bet your son doesn't want to swap positions anymore now? Certainly be an interesting two games with them next season, I just hope we somehow cobble a team worthy of our fans.

I dont think we "messed about" with keepers last season. Killip got injured against Boreham Wood (Oates had to play in goal) so we had to bring in the Boro lad on loan. Hardly messing about.

Well we did because our number one simply wasn't good enough, then we panicked had to sign a lad from Boro who nearly cost us biut n the end was a hero. If things hadn't panned out like that, a bigger issue of the keeper situation would of been made.

We ain’t asking or expecting perfect, but we do expect capable.
Sportsmen like people in showbiz are entertainers, the audience after years of seeing umpteen keepers get to know what’s what, we are not utter morons, we are capable of assessing a keepers performance on the pitch.
You may be happy to believe he’s a capable keeper on the strength of the coaching staff’s assessment, while others believe their eyes.
But if you think Killip is the best we can do, your own admission that ‘you know nowt’ explains it all.

Think we need to remember we finished what was it 16th? in a league we have only been lower for 4 years in over 100 years . So let's be honest the team can be massively improved.

If we are just content to put up with the same things every season fair enough, we will just continue to struggle. If we can't find or afford a better keeper than Killip, who improved a little last season then we might as well let the Stockports roll all over us next season.

Pools always have had decent shot stopping keepers as they get plenty of practice on the other hand it’s different when it comes to commanding the box and set pieces.
By extending Killips contract Pools might be thinking a club will come along and offer a fee for him.

My point isn't that I am saying how good he is, it,s that you think you know better than ex professional players.
Also Snowy earlier in this thread you said there is a general consensus that he needs replacing.
Where do you get that fact from? There,s not that many on here moaning about him apart from the small crew who at the moment are complaining about everything.
Besides he may be earmarked as number 2 next season.

I love a man with a sense of humour….

No, you back your fact claims up, I am fine with it.
Stay calm its only banter.

I think the general feeling is he’s not the best keeper and we could and certainly should do better, there’s been little defence of him till this point and disquiet with him has lasted for quite a while.
If people come on the board regularly and get involved in debate they might get the feel of things then, you can’t have a debate in a vacuum.
He’s not good enough and sorry but I really don’t care what the coaches think on the matter.

Maybe more people would debate if their posts were read properly.
My post was about opinions. Nowhere do I say Ben should be signed or released.
Quite a few on here should stay close to their phones as one missed call from the club could cost us promotion!!!!!
If they phone me I will say nowt and pass them on to you lot.
Tongue in cheek.
Great news about Joe Grey though.

I'm not a fan of Killip and would prefer someone who commands his area but for some reason whoever has been in charge of picking the team whilst he has been with us has preferred him to other options, without exception.
Why is that ??
Logic tells me that whoever decided to take up the option of retaining him discussed the matter with Dimi and the fact that the option was exercised I can only assume Dimi gave it the nod.
Maybe Dimi thinks he is getting somewhere with Killip and this coming season is make or break for him, as I alluded to in an earlier post.
We can only wait and see how it pans out. Will the new boss persevere with him as others have done or will he say enough is enough as popular opinion suggests.

Killip has improved alot and is worth taking the option up on him.

It is less risk than attempting to sign two experienced EFL keepers and ending up without any.

Now we can aim for someone better than Killip - which in turn may help him improve further.

As I recall, Lee tried to sign that experienced keeper from Bradford in the Jan window but was not successful.

Decent points Bosh.
It is risky to let him go because if our wages are as bad as our experts say no decent keeper will sign for us.
Of course he hopes to improve, just like every other keeper does.

bosch..."Killip has improved alot and is worth taking the option up on him."

...so wheres your evidence for saying that exactly?..."improved alot"?...are you a professional by any chance? ...getting worse imo...a lot worse...you dont need to be a professional to know that goalkeepers are supposed to catch a ball ffs....absolute howler here....should have scored....just luv the oooooos from the walsall crowd as flapper spills it like..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpy32E4Lzgk ...from 01.47

You appear to be saying …..’he’s not very good, but fingers crossed he might get better so let’s hang onto him’.
I’m afraid we haven’t got the luxury of waiting for him turning from an ugly duckling into a swan. That’s the world of unicorns and fairy tales, this is League 2.
There’s a world of goalkeepers out there, you do what every other club does, you sign one, two preferably.

That's not what I am saying.

It’s what you appear to be saying, only you fluff it up to make it acceptable…. To you.

bosch.."Killip has improved alot and is worth taking the option up on him"

..of course another thing about goalkeepers is..they're supposed to stop the ball going in the net....im not a professional like but think that's the general idea..thing is i'm told this is especially true if the shot is from long range...you might want to add up the number of times flapper has been beaten by long range shooting last season...i cant be arsed tbh..but here's another howler i remember like ..maybe bad positioning..?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z0lQx1THr8 .....from 0.24

bosch.."Killip has improved alot and is worth taking the option up on him"

..dont want to bore you too much..but another thing about goalkeeping is ..so im told ..you need to know when to stay on your line..and when to come out and claim the ball...now know you might not agree..but watching flapper he seems to me to be a keeper that likes to stay on his line...a lot..but then sometimes he gets a rush of blood to his head ..and comes to try and clear balls he should be nowhere near..like against charlton...another howler..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLRfbezcWLc ...from 01.38

bosch.."Killip has improved alot and is worth taking the option up on him"

..getting back to catching balls..especially crosses..i think thats one of the tasks keepers are paid to do??..you'll find that defending crosses has generally been accepted as something which our lads have struggled with for sometime..in fact the problem seems to go back to when flapper was signed..do you think this is just coincidence like...i dont...heres an example..a howler..should have scored...there's loads more around....

.so your "improvement" ???....my arse pal tbh..in my non professional opinion....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wb8rr5mZ84 ......from 0.42

medium.."I find it interesting that the Killip bashers think they know more about goalkeeping than the professionals at the club, including Dimi who must have had a say."

..you find it "interesting" do you ?...really ?...well...have a look at the above..and give your head a wobble as they say ..ffs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGl2IbhyKIc

No, you are wrong. Again.