This has come from nowhere with zero publicity while journo’s were busy chasing garden party’s.
According to this, a bike can now ride in the middle of the lane and you must treat it as you would a car..... so if they’re struggling up a bank (I’ve been there loads of times) you’re going to cause hold ups, even a slow cyclist can now hold up traffic.
There’s even more confusing new rules that were thought up by consulting with cyclists’s organisations and pedestrian groups.....driver input? Big fat zero apparently.

Boils my piss when drivers who turn left at traffic lights dont signal.
Cyclists nightmare when turning left.
Ammount of drivers at middleton rd/lancaster rd who commit this crime is unreal.

always thought direction indicators were optional extras on cars and most drivers decide against them.

things will not change. the first of the two wheeled planet savers i saw this morning were in there usual place, the pavement. can see a lot of em taking the piss now as will pedestrians who will love there new rights in crossing the roads.

My biggest pet hate, not using indicators. It seems the more expensive the German car or clapped out Vauxhall, the less reliable the indicators.
Where I live, I drive down the road and when I get to our house start braking and indicate to turn right onto the drive, twice this month two drivers have decided to overtake me as I turn right, they brake sharpish reverse and take off equally sharpish...I can only assume that anything they learned to get their licence was sucked out of their head with a vacuum pump shortly after passing.

These new rules are accidents waiting to happen some of them predetermined, now we'll have to wait and watch our insurance policies rise again.

just got my renewal in this morning. Gone up over 60 quid from last year. How people manage without a no claims bonus is beyond me.

[quote="Hartleblue"]These new rules are accidents waiting to happen some of them predetermined,
too much all at once. people just cannot change so many driving habits overnight, even if these habits have served them well over the years. seems pedestrian and cycling stupidity is now down to drivers of cars, lorries and buses to make them safe on the roads. said it for years that jay walking along with pavement bikes should be jumped on in the same way as driving misdemeanours are.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we now get a flourish of incidents were the more ‘committed’ of the cyclists start making a point. It usually happens, as the media will happily give them plenty of support.

Where I live (Leigh) you see as many cyclist on the pavement as the road. And as for the 'towpaths' when I walk down the canal they think they own the bloody path. Wankers

More carnage on the roads, motorist’s left to stress again.

And of course we will all hear it ringing out again.

HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT

Seaton promenade has nice cyclists and the militant Lycra crowd, the bikes have more electronics than a Russian spy trawler and their helmets more cameras than an AWACS plane and appear to be breaking some pain barrier for the fastest journey. One rode over Rat Boys tail as I was talking to my cousin....... result is now dog sees every bike as a potential attacker and stands his ground.
Thanks you oaf.

We've seen two cyclists killed outside of our house during the last two years - and one competition rider almost decapitated herself at the bottom of our drive - and I nearly got hit by another competitor as I went to help (fortunately the nurse next door got there in time).

They use the roads around us as a racetrack - ignoring that the roads are a place of work for the likes of farmers, delivery guys and school buses. At least once a week I get into an argument with one of the lycra clad wonders.

Sure there are lots of good people on bikes - but these new rules give too much power to the ar*eholes. Carnage will follow.

just the same as it is on the other side of town to me. stopped using them as most other dog walkers have as its not worth the hassle. money was spent in improving the canal banks to make them more accesable for everyone. well thats what the publicity was. the facts are the lycra lot have now got their own way once again where its become a cycle path and no more. think those who have a canal or river path should go out and actually walk in the middle of it and not move. selfish yes, but only following what they can do on narrow roads for their safety.

just the same as it is on the other side of town to me. stopped using them as most other dog walkers have as its not worth the hassle. money was spent in improving the canal banks to make them more accesable for everyone. well thats what the publicity was. the facts are the lycra lot have now got their own way once again where its become a cycle path and no more. think those who have a canal or river path should go out and actually walk in the middle of it and not move. selfish yes, but only following what they can do on narrow roads for their safety.

Mine was up £40 looked around and managed to get it for a £170 cheaper with a couple of extras thrown in.

Tax,insurance and a Bicycle MOT will keep em off the roads..If they want to ride a bike they should go to centre parcs.

They definatly need to take out some form of insurance if they are riding on the roads. Would be really interesting as well how much companies would charge for them due to their vunrability as well as a lot of their attitudes to pedestrians. Same with the escooter brigade. If the E was not in the name i,d like to bet they would be banned already.

I know, most of our canal path has lovely 'block paving' now which is perfect for them, sadly

Tax... I reckon they'd end up paying the same as any other vehicle with zero emissions.... £0 - not that it makes any difference as roads aren't funded out of 'Road Tax' (which was abolished by Winston Churchill), but instead by general taxation, like VAT. The amount of VAT paid on a cycle pays for the wear of the road it creates many, many times over. So that's the end of that ignorant argument.

Every member of a cycle club has to be a member of British Cycling, which automatically insures the cyclist for £1 MILLION pounds of cover. The cost? £40 a year.

It's so cheap because the damage a cycle can cause, compared to that of a 2 tonne car or 40 tonne lorry, is negligible.

Negligible....? My dog might argue differently, but the ignorant Lycra lout was off like a rat up a drainpipe.
They’ll never tax bikes because the old strings will be plucked regarding fitness, etc.
I don’t mind the leisure cyclists, it’s those Lycra automatons that baffle me, a sort of masochistic pain barrier breaking attitude to life and the devout belief in theory own divinity.

No, they'll never tax bikes because there is no point as it doesn't have any emissions, and 'road tax' is a duty against emissions... not because it gets people fit.

The point is compared to a huge metal box, the damage is incomparable...I reckon your dog might have came off worse under a lorry, like.

A lorry on Seaton prom is a very unlikely scenario, the dog wasn’t moving, the bike was.
If it had been a lorry there’d have been a comeback, registration plates to identify it for a start as opposed to some anonymous unidentifiable character who legs it and rides off into the sunset.
I’ve ridden a bike all my life and prefer it to the car, fortunately I don’t get the urge to emulate the new elitists.

When i worked for NES on the darlington mobile must of been in 2019,a cyclist hogged the white line going up northgate and i cudnt get past him and he did this for hundreds of yards. Eventually i did get past him and shouted ya bounder.
Bastard reported me

members of cycling clubs are not the problem and never have been. with the pennines on my back yard you regularly get theses club riders around on weekends especially on a sunday. even though they are not i call em proffesional cyclists and not the do gooding brigade that are the problem. really doubt cycling club members have a lifes ambition to piss off as many motorists and pedestrians they can on their commutes to work.

You are 100% correct Accrington but sadly everyone gets tarred with the same brush. Look at Snowy's comments about cyclists wearing lycra as though everyone is the same. There are great cyclists, good cyclists, bad cyclists and complete bounders on bikes, just as there are drivers in cars.

The changes will mean than someone riding a bike on a canal towpath is responsible to 'reduce danger to pedestrians' so it should make the paths safer if you're walking.

So so close to seeing my first pedestrian accident this morning at Tescoe's roundabout. A woman was waiting to cross from the central reservation and a car in the outside lane waited for her to cross but the one in the inside lane didn't and nearly wiped her out. She waved an apology but I haven't a ferkin clue who was in the right or the wrong.

Care to rephrase that..... I made a point of separating the leisure cyclists from the Lycra squad.

..... ‘should’ being the key word. Leopards, spots, change etc come to mind. I’d still recommend a life jacket if walking the dog by the canal.

join the club. at one time it was frowned on by the plod if you stopped on a duel carriageway to allow pedestrians to cross at places that are not designated like crossings. the only problem is that unless you see an accident under these new laws i doubt the MSM will report it as they seem to love the idea of them. would have been better to force pedestrians to cross at crossing places if they are bothered about safety. more cycle lanes also if the areas warrent it and not like bus lanes where 4 go up them in one hour.

Funny you should mention bus lanes, if you’re driving south down York Road and you come to the lights at Titan House, you can’t turn right up Park Road because it’s a bus lane, with the fabled one bus an hour, so it’s doing nothing at all apart from letting the taxis use it.

found that out the other saturday going to the match. hardly ever use york road but tried it in the hope of pools winning the game.

All very well Pete ,but have you passed you're cycling proficiency test?

He can’t just put ‘argument’ it has to be an ‘ignorant argument’..... I’ll check out what that’s a sign of tomorrow.