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Its a proper full season loan too which makes a nice change.


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Its a proper full season loan too which makes a nice change.


Full season as in takes him with us into next season too or just to the end of the current campaign ?


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his younger brother looks useful too....

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Eiphos_3 wrote:
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Its a proper full season loan too which makes a nice change.


Full season as in takes him with us into next season too or just to the end of the current campaign ?



End of this one I believe.


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 Post subject: Re: Fletcher from Boro
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Whilst Wrexham are signing 300k players


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Is he a featherweight?




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we do not know which players will be the most succesful foeir new clubs anyway. i,d hate to follow a cheque book club that is dispised by the rest of the league fans that cannot wait for them to ctash and burn. if i wanted that every week i could join the premier league bandwagon yo watch top football and not their non league crap which they could still be watching next season.


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Whilst Wrexham are signing 300k players

Raj Singh cheap as chips why didn’t you sell to the Americans you greedy bastard


Because they weren't offering to buy you ignorant bar steward. They took over the operating costs of Wrexham, a fan-owned and basically debt-free club, so that their investment all went on taking the club forward, not on paying off debts or a purchase price.

Your beef is that Raj wasn't prepared to give Pools away for nowt. I need a new house - can I have yours please? I'll pay the council tax when it falls due.


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Think raj is winding down with pools, once were out the cups I think we will find out what he wants to do.


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When does the League money come in? That's when he'd like to sell as he will have more cash to mimimise his loans


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Think raj is winding down with pools, once were out the cups I think we will find out what he wants to do.


You may be right Mr B but there again you may be wrong.
I have no idea what his thoughts are.
Let's put you in Raj's shoes.
A short time ago you saved Pools from oblivion, got the club back into the league, negotiated a three year deal with the man you appointed to help carry out the job and thus you thought that things were going forward nicely. Then the guy who you thought was the way forward for you and the club was offered a better deal and took it. However as a parting shot the guy had to justify reneging on his deal by casting aspersions towards you and putting worry and doubt into fans minds.
Then the personal attacks on you started along with allegations that have never been fully substantiated culminating in people suggesting that you might be contemplating throwing in the towel.
Now what would you think about it all. Would you stay. Would you???????

As an aside both you and I know that the game is full of lazy journalists who scour forums and social media to get a story and before long your thoughts, innocent though they are, are turned into realism and the chairman starts reading them, as do the people close to him. So then he gets it from nearest and dearest who ask "why do you bother etc etc ".
Do I need to put any more paint on the picture?

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I think if journalists wanted to pick up on things they need look no further than Challinors parting shot. Raj won't leave because of one or two of us on message boards, raj will leave after getting maximum return on what he put in.

We won't survive for very long in the football league feeding on scraps as a football man himself I expect he realises that.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
I think if journalists wanted to pick up on things they need look no further than Challinors parting shot. Raj won't leave because of one or two of us on message boards, raj will leave after getting maximum return on what he put in.

We won't survive for very long in the football league feeding on scraps as a football man himself I expect he realises that.

I agree totally with billingham's first paragraph but I have never thought of Raj as a "football man".
As I see it, there are two reasons that football clubs are bought. The main one is to make money (many fail) whilst the second is self indulgence by the very, very wealthy who may or may not be fans. Now I do not think Raj falls into the second category so we must accept that he expects to take cash out of the club. My worry is that he does not appear to realise that he will make more money as a result of success on the field and that will only come from significantly strengthening the playing squad.


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billyboy......."We won't survive for very long in the football league feeding on scraps"....but great grandad billy said the same in 1908......glad history proved him so wrong.....it must run in the family.....i'm told he was a another real mill house moaner.... and didnt know his arse from his elbow as they say.... :laugh:


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Last time we went down the route we are going down now what happened? Oh yes we got relegated . What happened did raj shake your hand once upon a time?


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Dress it up however you like it’s a desperate signing ©


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Signing £300k players? Glad we aren't doing that, we might be accused of being glory supporters. Dodged a bullet with those yanks we did. Seriously, I understand the fear of becoming a boom and bust. It has happened so many times that it makes your blood run cold but on the other hand there is no dignity in feeding off scraps.

Don't know why anyone is worried about Pools, you don't know what is going on behind the scenes. all you know is the pedigree of the players we sign, who similarly sized clubs are signing, the status of the clubs we lose players to, the state of the ground and it's facilities, staff retention, league position, club communication etc..... hardly anything to go on really.


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Dress it up however you like it’s a desperate signing ©


What's desperate about loaning Academy players from the top two divisions ????
Were Cass, Magloire, Daly, Burey to name but a few in your desperate mindset?? I'd have those four in our squad in a flash.

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Few clubs after Cass on permanent apparently.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Few clubs after Cass on permanent apparently.


I'm not surprised. Newcastle might well keep him a bit longer.
Get him out on loan to a Championship club and see how he fares.
He could end up a class act but I suppose that the money at their disposal will have an effect on whether academy players get a fair chance. They can buy who they want and will as soon as they start seriously threatening the big boys.

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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Few clubs after Cass on permanent apparently.


I'm not surprised. Newcastle might well keep him a bit longer.
Get him out on loan to a Championship club and see how he fares.
He could end up a class act but I suppose that the money at their disposal will have an effect on whether academy players get a fair chance. They can buy who they want and will as soon as they start seriously threatening the big boys.


Port vale also had bids for devante Rodney from league 1 and 2 clubs.


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Dress it up however you like it’s a desperate signing ©


What's desperate about loaning Academy players from the top two divisions ????
Were Cass, Magloire, Daly, Burey to name but a few in your desperate mindset?? I'd have those four in our squad in a flash.


Its a big gamble. More don't work out than do. Nothing against these loans but it is the cheap option when we are being told there is a substantial budget to get players in.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
I think if journalists wanted to pick up on things they need look no further than Challinors parting shot. Raj won't leave because of one or two of us on message boards, raj will leave after getting maximum return on what he put in.

We won't survive for very long in the football league feeding on scraps as a football man himself I expect he realises that.


If I ever won the lottery, £100,000,000. I wouldn’t put a penny into the club because all you’d get is insinuation as to you or your motives from people with no money, who want to tell you how to spend your money and even who to sign or sack....... and criticism from people who want you to sign every player who ‘ got away’ ..... a logic free other world. :roll:

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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
I think if journalists wanted to pick up on things they need look no further than Challinors parting shot. Raj won't leave because of one or two of us on message boards, raj will leave after getting maximum return on what he put in.

We won't survive for very long in the football league feeding on scraps as a football man himself I expect he realises that.


If I ever won the lottery, £100,000,000. I wouldn’t put a penny into the club because all you’d get is insinuation as to you or your motives from people with no money, who want to tell you how to spend your money and even who to sign or sack....... and criticism from people who want you to sign every player who ‘ got away’ ..... a logic free other world. :roll:


If you were a multimillionaire I doubt you would care much. Just don't lie to 5000 fans who have put into the club week in week out saying you have a good budget for players when clearly we haven't.


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There’s a post entitled ‘Proud’....can we rename this sad one ‘ Whining like a jet’ as Challinor’s conspiracy theorists cluster in an orgy of self inflicted doom and gloom, hoping for the worst as they explore further, the demented theories they discuss,.....
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

If you were a multimillionaire I doubt you would care much. Just don't lie to 5000 fans who have put into the club week in week out saying you have a good budget for players when clearly we haven't.

Oh I’d care. Now tell us all what YOU know about the budget......what you really know.

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Snowy wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

If you were a multimillionaire I doubt you would care much. Just don't lie to 5000 fans who have put into the club week in week out saying you have a good budget for players when clearly we haven't.

Oh I’d care. Now tell us all what YOU know about the budget......what you really know.


7 players out 3 in 2 kids and lad a from national North what does that say about our budget.


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Nothing, I’m on about money, what do you know about the budget.

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We haven't got one.


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When we start making signings of the stature of a league 2 club with average gates of 5200, after having two major cup runs, sponsorship championship clubs be proud off, then maybe you can claim I am.


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billyboy.....sound familiar ?......

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Spike knows this lad inside out, I,m with him on this one.

Spending dosh on players proves nothing.


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Of the seven that have gone out, Burey, Daly, Goodwin and Jones were not our players, so we have no hold on them. The other three were released by the club, which is their prerogative. Is anybody suggesting we should have kept any of them??
We are told by the club that activity to replace these players is ongoing.
On Tuesday we will know where we stand on the matter.
Looking at the current performances of our so called fringe players I reckon a decent goalie and a big brick shithouse up front would suffice until a summer clear out and recruitment drive can take place.
Our budget for next season is the interesting one in my eyes.
Did you know if we'd have won all our league games so far this season, we'd be top of the league. :wink:

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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
We haven't got one.


Oh but we have got a budget but you have a problem discussing it cos you haven't got a clue what it is.
If it's any consolation to you, I haven't got a clue what it is either.
Maybe we should just make it up as we go along..........OH WAIT.

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I have no problem discussing it, it's on a par with Morecambe possibly the second smallest club in the football league, we were told this by the club. We're shopping at under 23 teams and national North clubs after winning 1 of our last 12 games.

Cup runs are great but they shouldn't fool anyone.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
I have no problem discussing it, it's on a par with Morecambe possibly the second smallest club in the football league, we were told this by the club. We're shopping at under 23 teams and national North clubs after winning 1 of our last 12 games.

Cup runs are great but they shouldn't fool anyone.


Glad we cleared up the existence of a budget.
So to discuss it can I begin by asking you what the contents of our budget are.
Didn't we get Sterry and Ferguson from NLN. Didn't the kid who went from Darlo to Rochdale play in NLN. This Langstaff gadgie, isn't he in NLN.

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I have no problem discussing it, it's on a par with Morecambe possibly the second smallest club in the football league, we were told this by the club. We're shopping at under 23 teams and national North clubs after winning 1 of our last 12 games.

Cup runs are great but they shouldn't fool anyone.

Why do you cling desperately to that throw away fleeting remark about Morecambe like it’s some factual mantra? It’s wheeled out and it’s coffin lid opened as proof of it’s relevance.....it’s a fairytale taken as an affidavit for it’s own non relevance to anything.

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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
I have no problem discussing it, it's on a par with Morecambe possibly the second smallest club in the football league, we were told this by the club. We're shopping at under 23 teams and national North clubs after winning 1 of our last 12 games.

Cup runs are great but they shouldn't fool anyone.

Why do you cling desperately to that throw away fleeting remark about Morecambe like it’s some factual mantra? It’s wheeled out and it’s coffin lid opened as proof of it’s relevance.....it’s a fairytale taken as an affidavit for it’s own non relevance to anything.


I thought you were a proper Rajette? He is the one that talked about putting our budget on par with theirs.


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We haven't got one.


Oh but we have got a budget but you have a problem discussing it cos you haven't got a clue what it is.
If it's any consolation to you, I haven't got a clue what it is either.
Maybe we should just make it up as we go along..........OH WAIT.


Still waiting for that signing that disproves it. Still waiting......


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Snowy wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
I have no problem discussing it, it's on a par with Morecambe possibly the second smallest club in the football league, we were told this by the club. We're shopping at under 23 teams and national North clubs after winning 1 of our last 12 games.

Cup runs are great but they shouldn't fool anyone.

Why do you cling desperately to that throw away fleeting remark about Morecambe like it’s some factual mantra? It’s wheeled out and it’s coffin lid opened as proof of it’s relevance.....it’s a fairytale taken as an affidavit for it’s own non relevance to anything.



Well if people are going to ask what our budget is like the chairman said on a par with morcambe think that would be pretty factual considering he said he had been speaking to them.


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He can spin any line he likes, depends who swallows it.
Anyone know Morecambe budget by the way...
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Still waiting for that signing that disproves it. Still waiting......

If we sign anyone, you’ll have a standard repertoire of why Player X is the cheap option etc, etc..... yawn2
If we sign no one at all, we’ll have the spectacle of a pronged meltdown amongst ‘the brothers who know, but can’t say what they know’.
I never panic over events like this, something always turns up. yawn2

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We have signed someone announced soon.


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