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 Post subject: Which party does Boris
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Represent?, its certainly not the Tory party, is it the leaving party, drinks party, wine and cheese party, quiz or xmas party?

Probably the Clarty Party shortly. :roll:

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interesting bit of pesh the news had on this morning had the Buffoons old teacher reading out a report from his days in toff school.

basically stating: " Mr Johnson never did follow the rules and seemed to get annoyed that they applied to him"


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I'm a bit suspicious about all this personal scrutiny against Bojo.
The media seem to be concentrating on attacking him personally and leaving the Government to get on with it.
Is this a deliberate ploy to distract attention from the real issues.
All these parties, get togethers, booze ups have one thing in common and that is they allegedly have all been set up by civil servants and then leaked to the media. Bojo has set up an enquiry into it all. Who is leading the enquiry, a Civil Servant of course. HMMMM.
Why would a top civil servant send out 100 invites to a piss up in Downing St, knowing full well there would be a public outcry when knowledge of it broke and it was bound to break because the invites were in writing??? It doesn't make sense.
On top of that all these alleged shenanigans appeared to have taken place at Downing St and nowhere else it seems.
Downing St is the home of the PM so when accused of "being there", he simply says " cos I live there and I am entitled to frequent my own garden, am I not".
There's something not quite right about all this and I think we are being led around by the nose. As they say in the North East......There's a rabbit off here.
I have a theory on this but decline to publish it until it appears to be more plausible.
One thing is clear to me and that is that the whole thing is being orchestrated but by whom and the more we hear the more daft it all sounds. Someone is being prepared for an out to dry hanging.

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what with covid restrictions, energy price increases, food increases in price, green issues that not everyone is buying into, knife crime rife in big cities. all this is causing his drop in popularity even against starmer. got a feeling that if the tories were miles ahead in the polls and johnsons popularity was at its top then the whole affairs of party,s would have been swept under the carpet. there is far too many parliamentary jobs at stake now to get full support.


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It's like a pack of hyenas attacking a wounded animal and working on the basis that enough small bites will eventually kill the target. It's the Islington mafia trying to overturn an election result. I'm pissed off with the media rather than this non story about an alleged party at Downing Street. I suspect I'm not alone.


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there are much bigger issues we all have to overcome but imagine there are plenty around who love stories like this who normally have no interest in politics. they may not forget the party,s but will forget really important issues.


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The Media never forgave him for winning the election and Brexit ....and despise him for it. It’s been a war of attrition, a drip, drip of non events or rumour and has been a constant background noise...... one time the media reported the news, now they make the news and want to be the ‘king makers’ and puppet masters.
I never watch the news on the main channels now, as they all shit in the same pot.
It bothers me, then I see Angela Rayner gobbing off and realise things could be a lot worse.

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Keir Starmer is forever in lockdown because of testing positive and is just emerging from another bout. Why isn't the media interested in this and why are they not hounding him to find out what he is doing that makes him catch covid every ten minutes.
Rayner is dangerous, probably more so than
Abbott is because most people just see Abbott as a laughing stock now but have yet to cotton on to the bold Angela.
Has anybody ever heard her spout anything except bile whilst having nothing to say about policy.
The Labour Party ought to be facing charges of high treason for allowing Momentum to infiltrate it.

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What eventually happened to our former MP who resigned..... it all went very quiet.

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Why don't you just rename this forum the Boris Johnson / Nasty Party Fan Club?
I can only begin to imagine your hysteria if any of this had happened under a Labour Government....


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The Grand Old Duke Of York looks set to face trial now aswell... oh dear oh dear ! violin


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snowy.....what happened to our labour m.p who was forced to resign ?......all here....labour so media not interested....

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I have to be critical on one area. Bring your own booze! you'd think he can afford to lay a bit of a free bar on!


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Why don't you just rename this forum the Boris Johnson / Nasty Party Fan Club?
I can only begin to imagine your hysteria if any of this had happened under a Labour Government....


Naw, it wouldn't be an issue. Frankly if Labour were in power we'd have much more serious things to worry about.


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snowy.....what happened to our labour m.p who was forced to resign ?......all here....labour so media not interested....

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... M_Hill.pdf

That’s an eye opener :shock:

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Why don't you just rename this forum the Boris Johnson / Nasty Party Fan Club?
I can only begin to imagine your hysteria if any of this had happened under a Labour Government....

So you’ll be joining us to discuss Pools as well I take it....?

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I have to be critical on one area. Bring your own booze! you'd think he can afford to lay a bit of a free bar on!


I thought that was a bit stingy as well. When Starmer holds his tete a tetes he provides beers for his guests, maybe be he should provide lateral flow tests and then he wouldn't be self isolating all the time.

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Snowy wrote:
poolie1 wrote:
snowy.....what happened to our labour m.p who was forced to resign ?......all here....labour so media not interested....

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... M_Hill.pdf

That’s an eye opener :shock:


Then there's all the Labour Officials who have been jailed recently and the Labour peer accused of under age sex.
This is in the interest of balance. Mr frankiesymes has a point, we can't just have one sided leader bashing.

We bash Bojo for dishing out mince pies but ignore sex offenders. Let's have a bit of balance. Oh I forgot Blairs war crimes and Corbyn's snuggling up to Terrorists and ignoring Racism. I suppose none of these things can remotely surpass free mince pies on the lawn.
Boris the bastard.

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Don’t forget the wallpaper, .....only in this country would they try to topple the leader with the horror of getting your bedroom decorated and an orgy of a few drinks and mince pies.
Good job Boris didn’t introduce tuition fees and student loans like Tony did or Gordon increased again before leaving office......

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derwent..."the Labour peer accused of under age sex"....you mean the one found guilty?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-s ... e-59607283


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derwent..."the Labour peer accused of under age sex"....you mean the one found guilty?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-s ... e-59607283

Aye that's him. I was being polite mate. :laugh:

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Don’t forget the wallpaper, .....only in this country would they try to topple the leader with the horror of getting your bedroom decorated and an orgy of a few drinks and mince pies.
Good job Boris didn’t introduce tuition fees and student loans like Tony did or Gordon increased again before leaving office......


Not to mention the Media's invite to the lawn for refreshments whilst they grilled Cummings over going to Barney to get his eyesight checked. I can still see Beth(red lips) Rigby blowing a gasket as we speak.
The media fully supported that gathering, as did the Labour Party.

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Surely the bloke who sent the email invites out is due a £10k fine from the Met Police for organising a party during lockdown. Wasn't that the rule at the time and he can hardly deny it when there is an email with 100 on the distribution list and an estimated 30 turned up.

First rule of Politics is surely never to put anything in writing!!


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Surely the bloke who sent the email invites out is due a £10k fine from the Met Police for organising a party during lockdown. Wasn't that the rule at the time and he can hardly deny it when there is an email with 100 on the distribution list and an estimated 30 turned up.

First rule of Politics is surely never to put anything in writing!!


My point entirely, unbelievable Jeff.
As I said earlier, it doesn't make sense.

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let he who is without sin cast the first stone....

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It's a disgrace that you get people together for a 'thank you' and its on a BYOB basis. Surely Boris could have found a Tory donor to have bought a few cases of wine for the party!

I don't think its the Islington elite that are drip feeding these leaks. I smell a former advisor who couldn't be sacked despite his Barnard Castle trip. Revenge is best served cold.

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derwent wrote:
I'm a bit suspicious about all this personal scrutiny against Bojo.
The media seem to be concentrating on attacking him personally and leaving the Government to get on with it.
Is this a deliberate ploy to distract attention from the real issues.
All these parties, get togethers, booze ups have one thing in common and that is they allegedly have all been set up by civil servants and then leaked to the media. Bojo has set up an enquiry into it all. Who is leading the enquiry, a Civil Servant of course. HMMMM.
Why would a top civil servant send out 100 invites to a piss up in Downing St, knowing full well there would be a public outcry when knowledge of it broke and it was bound to break because the invites were in writing??? It doesn't make sense.
On top of that all these alleged shenanigans appeared to have taken place at Downing St and nowhere else it seems.
Downing St is the home of the PM so when accused of "being there", he simply says " cos I live there and I am entitled to frequent my own garden, am I not".
There's something not quite right about all this and I think we are being led around by the nose. As they say in the North East......There's a rabbit off here.
I have a theory on this but decline to publish it until it appears to be more plausible.
One thing is clear to me and that is that the whole thing is being orchestrated but by whom and the more we hear the more daft it all sounds. Someone is being prepared for an out to dry hanging.

No disrespect intended Mr Derwent, but your take on how things operate in 10 Downing Street and environs are some way wide of the mark.

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I don't understand why the Tory voters on this board can't grasp what Tory Party has known for the last 48 hours - Johnson is toast. It's not if he goes but when.

He may as well have goosed the Queen at Price Philip's funeral.


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He's going nowhere.


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He's going nowhere.

Back to his school reports then...

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That’s how pathetic and petty it’s become, wallpaper, mince pies and school reports, ffs.
As for the Tory voters assumption you are way off the mark, I’m a mercenary floating voter as none of them would know an high moral principle if it slapped them in the face. I vote for whoever offers me the best prospects.
Parliament from 2016 till 2019 disabused me of the idea that all MP’s were decent folk, it was a cess pit of politics.

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This bunker used to be the Boris Appreciation Society - yes it was a wind up but when he's been utterly found out it seems ridiculous you would try to defend him. He'll be go after the local govt elections


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That’s how pathetic and petty it’s become, wallpaper, mince pies and school reports, ffs.


I agree none of that matters a damn to Joe and Jane Public and is representative of how desperate some people have been to find any stick to beat Johnson with.

That said, the organised boozing in the Downing Street Gardens has cut through with loads of ordinary folk. Anyone who lost a close relative or a friend in the first Covid wave isn't going to forget, neither are those couldn't see the people they cared about for months on end. Their anger is real.


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It shows how dismally low it’s got when that’s the best they can get him on.....gets more like the states every day.

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Just to go from silly to outrageous;

Alastair Campbell just been on GB News demanding that Boris should resign after being caught lying to the house. Does the phrase 'dodgy dossier' ring any bells Mr Tucker?


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e....labour so media not interested....






Still scared of mentioning towns like Rotherham,Oldham,Telford etc in the same sentence are they?


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I like to steer clear of politics and politicians, but this is more about the mainstream media stirring the shit and winding up the gullible public by banging out the same tedious little message to suit their agenda for a couple of years now.
The histrionics over what would be considered inconsequential nonsense in other countries is carefully crafted to make it appear the crime of the century. I really do question the media’s motives over this rabid pursuit of trivia in relative terms, when they’re very careful to smother as much as possible, stories over the past few years on subjects they consider taboo in their circles, paying token lip service.
I could understand the outrage if Boris declared a one party state, cancelled elections, rounded up any voices of opposition and sent them to a Gulag in Stockport, had gangs of jackbooted thugs imposing his way on the streets but he hasn’t ......more fury and faux outrage have been expended by the ‘meeeeja’ and cardboard cut out wet opposition ‘politicians’ over wallpaper, mince pies and school reports than things worthy of such coverage.

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I am not a political animal by any means & appreciate that Private Eye has it's own agenda & a readership to respond to, but had to laugh at an article recently, exposing The Sun's moral outrage at a Downing Street bash, whilst carefully ignoring the do that they put on for their own employees !
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Still scared of mentioning towns like Rotherham,Oldham,Telford etc in the same sentence are they?

you have this pandering to minorities on one side and the party loving tories on the other who either ignore or twist their own rules. what a shit show we now have in politics with these two alternatives. best party may be the spoilt ballot paper one.


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Keir Starmer is forever in lockdown because of testing positive and is just emerging from another bout. Why isn't the media interested in this and why are they not hounding him to find out what he is doing that makes him catch covid every ten minutes.
Rayner is dangerous, probably more so than
Abbott is because most people just see Abbott as a laughing stock now but have yet to cotton on to the bold Angela.
Has anybody ever heard her spout anything except bile whilst having nothing to say about policy.
The Labour Party ought to be facing charges of high treason for allowing Momentum to infiltrate it.

think raynor gets away with things because many can relate to her upbringing. daughter of a single parent who made her own way in life without the public school and financial backing. its a pity she has turned out the way she has as she should be a role model for similar lasses in the same boat.


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I am not a political animal by any means & appreciate that Private Eye has it's own agenda & a readership to respond to, but had to laugh at an article recently, exposing The Sun's moral outrage at a Downing Street bash, whilst carefully ignoring the do that they put on for their own employees !
It's just whatever sells copy I suppose.

Subscriber for years, but after 2010 it lost the plot and become so smug. Such a pity.

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kay burley on skye this morning......taking hypocrisy to a new level...

Is it distraction on her part, she was the original breaker of the rules and got suspended. Don’t recall her arguing against herself that she should have been sacked.

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I like to steer clear of politics and politicians, but this is more about the mainstream media stirring the shit and winding up the gullible public by banging out the same tedious little message to suit their agenda for a couple of years now.
The histrionics over what would be considered inconsequential nonsense in other countries is carefully crafted to make it appear the crime of the century. I really do question the media’s motives over this rabid pursuit of trivia in relative terms, when they’re very careful to smother as much as possible, stories over the past few years on subjects they consider taboo in their circles, paying token lip service.
I could understand the outrage if Boris declared a one party state, cancelled elections, rounded up any voices of opposition and sent them to a Gulag in Stockport, had gangs of jackbooted thugs imposing his way on the streets but he hasn’t ......more fury and faux outrage have been expended by the ‘meeeeja’ and cardboard cut out wet opposition ‘politicians’ over wallpaper, mince pies and school reports than things worthy of such coverage.

Serious question - which countries have had similar events and considered them inconsequential? I ask because I'm not aware of anything similar but may well have missed it. If so, it would very likely be something that Johnson et al. would want to seize on by way of comparison you'd imagine, so I'm wondering why that hasn't happened. But of course not all countries have introduced the same laws around covid so that would make comparisons trickier.

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It is possible to tell when a politican tells a lie - his lips move. Boris's heinous crime is that he lied to Parliament.

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The media will no doubt turn their attentions to the 'dirty thirty' once they've finished hanging Boris out to dry, in the hope there's some high profile targets amongst that lot.

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It is possible to tell when a politican tells a lie - his lips move. Boris's heinous crime is that he lied to Parliament.

Parliament’s been doing it to us for years, it must be fake outrage on their part.

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Snowy wrote:
I like to steer clear of politics and politicians, but this is more about the mainstream media stirring the shit and winding up the gullible public by banging out the same tedious little message to suit their agenda for a couple of years now.
The histrionics over what would be considered inconsequential nonsense in other countries is carefully crafted to make it appear the crime of the century. I really do question the media’s motives over this rabid pursuit of trivia in relative terms, when they’re very careful to smother as much as possible, stories over the past few years on subjects they consider taboo in their circles, paying token lip service.
I could understand the outrage if Boris declared a one party state, cancelled elections, rounded up any voices of opposition and sent them to a Gulag in Stockport, had gangs of jackbooted thugs imposing his way on the streets but he hasn’t ......more fury and faux outrage have been expended by the ‘meeeeja’ and cardboard cut out wet opposition ‘politicians’ over wallpaper, mince pies and school reports than things worthy of such coverage.

Serious question - which countries have had similar events and considered them inconsequential? I ask because I'm not aware of anything similar but may well have missed it. If so, it would very likely be something that Johnson et al. would want to seize on by way of comparison you'd imagine, so I'm wondering why that hasn't happened. But of course not all countries have introduced the same laws around covid so that would make comparisons trickier.

Maybe other countries are a bit more subtle at dealing with these practices and a media with other domestic priorities....it would be naive to assume otherwise.
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