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https://the72.co.uk/259368/hartlepool-u ... morecambe/

:( Probably he will go to Morecambe, but the good news is that at least Graeme Lee is looking for a better keeper!


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 Post subject: Re: Trevor Carson
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This man would be ideal for us - perfect timing in the season to get someone like him between the sticks.

unfortunate though as it doesnt look like a go'er but yes good news in the fact hes identified Killip is pants and we need better.


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 Post subject: Re: Trevor Carson
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He would make a huge difference to us.


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 Post subject: Re: Trevor Carson
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
He would make a huge difference to us.

so true, but it looks that he has gone to morecambe so its another player we can forget about.


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 Post subject: Re: Trevor Carson
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Only early days but very underwhelming so far.
Are we saving the Pot for the summer n hopeing 1 or 2 loanies in 3 weeks keeps us in the EFL n gets us to Wembley.
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 Post subject: Re: Trevor Carson
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Now I know people say it's hard to sign players in January but it hasn't stopped Stevenage who have signed 4 already, they certainly don't want relegation to the conference.


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Stevenage doing things right thats for sure - surely not that hard to bring 1 or 2 in within the first week. Even Carlisle are at it.

see where we are come next week - if no new faces are through the door then we really are back to scraping the barrel. See the Welsh lad Huws former Ipswich player is a free agent too - big strong midfielder no injuries. Players like this we should be chasing.


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 Post subject: Re: Trevor Carson
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See he has signed for Morecambe a club on a similar budget according to Raj. WHAT is happening with all this money coming in £1.2m from the league, 100k from papa John trophy plus money from FA cup also gates up by 1000 plus on break even giving extra programme sales and bar revenues. Added to this the stadium sponsorship. No new plater despite having a ghost figure in charge of recruitment. Have we learnt from last season and are getting ready to extend contracts of the players we wish to keep ? Heard recently we were offered Armstrong on a Free last January by Salford if we took on his contract which er refused and that being why we were not informed when he was sold due to our lack of interest. If you lived in council property the decoration/minor repairs are down to the tenant so get the minor repairs done, this is despite volunteers offering their services free. Has any of the debt to Sage been repaid ?


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you also forgot the severance package Stockport paid us for DC.

im now led to believe that DC did us a favour in ramping up that figure in his contract as he knew he would be wanted / was going. The guy actually did us a favour by screwing his new employers for more cash to give to Pools maybe not such a snake afterall, but a clever business man where pools concerned.


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 Post subject: Re: Trevor Carson
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Essex poolie wrote:
See he has signed for Morecambe a club on a similar budget according to Raj. WHAT is happening with all this money coming in £1.2m from the league, 100k from papa John trophy plus money from FA cup also gates up by 1000 plus on break even giving extra programme sales and bar revenues. Added to this the stadium sponsorship. No new plater despite having a ghost figure in charge of recruitment. Have we learnt from last season and are getting ready to extend contracts of the players we wish to keep ? Heard recently we were offered Armstrong on a Free last January by Salford if we took on his contract which er refused and that being why we were not informed when he was sold due to our lack of interest. If you lived in council property the decoration/minor repairs are down to the tenant so get the minor repairs done, this is despite volunteers offering their services free. Has any of the debt to Sage been repaid ?


A lot of good questions there Mr Essex but you're knocking on the wrong door if you expect answers on here.
Apart from asking the club directly, I am at a loss as what to suggest.
My personal stance is I expect action, like serious action on the recruitment this month but I am avoiding beating myself up over trying to speculate.
It is obvious to me that the club keep their cards close to their chest and don't seem to put keeping the fans in the loop very high up their priority list. You will remember I wrote some months ago that the silence coming from the club was deafening and that is still the case. For reasons best known to themselves that appears to be their stance and modus operandi. There is nothing I can do about that so I'm not beating myself up over that either. You just go round in circles until you disappear up your own arsehole.
Frustrating as it is.

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 Post subject: Re: Trevor Carson
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Like we said months ago let's wait till January because the excuses will run dry then, well it's now January, you might of thought with two massive cup games this week we would of been on the ball and had lads in, unfortunately this is pools, I'm sure it ain't easy getting players in and not cup tied but we have had long enough to prepare, other clubs seem to be getting deals over the line so I expect us too eventually. Maybe we are just waiting until closer to Bristol rivers game to bring loans in?


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derwent wrote:
Essex poolie wrote:
See he has signed for Morecambe a club on a similar budget according to Raj. WHAT is happening with all this money coming in £1.2m from the league, 100k from papa John trophy plus money from FA cup also gates up by 1000 plus on break even giving extra programme sales and bar revenues. Added to this the stadium sponsorship. No new plater despite having a ghost figure in charge of recruitment. Have we learnt from last season and are getting ready to extend contracts of the players we wish to keep ? Heard recently we were offered Armstrong on a Free last January by Salford if we took on his contract which er refused and that being why we were not informed when he was sold due to our lack of interest. If you lived in council property the decoration/minor repairs are down to the tenant so get the minor repairs done, this is despite volunteers offering their services free. Has any of the debt to Sage been repaid ?


A lot of good questions there Mr Essex but you're knocking on the wrong door if you expect answers on here.
Apart from asking the club directly, I am at a loss as what to suggest.
My personal stance is I expect action, like serious action on the recruitment this month but I am avoiding beating myself up over trying to speculate.
It is obvious to me that the club keep their cards close to their chest and don't seem to put keeping the fans in the loop very high up their priority list. You will remember I wrote some months ago that the silence coming from the club was deafening and that is still the case. For reasons best known to themselves that appears to be their stance and modus operandi. There is nothing I can do about that so I'm not beating myself up over that either. You just go round in circles until you disappear up your own arsehole.
Frustrating as it is.


Two fair posts: the fact that there is a form of silence from he club does permit a degree of conjecture and my punt is that much of the money may have gone to reduce the loans made to the club by Raj's businesses - and, if so, he does have a right to do this, albeit some may think that, from the club's perspective, this is a tad myopic. Or there might be a view that the club has sufficient resources to stay in the league this season and so we wait for a big push in the summer.


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 Post subject: Re: Trevor Carson
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Brian Honour's Left Foot wrote:
derwent wrote:
Essex poolie wrote:
See he has signed for Morecambe a club on a similar budget according to Raj. WHAT is happening with all this money coming in £1.2m from the league, 100k from papa John trophy plus money from FA cup also gates up by 1000 plus on break even giving extra programme sales and bar revenues. Added to this the stadium sponsorship. No new plater despite having a ghost figure in charge of recruitment. Have we learnt from last season and are getting ready to extend contracts of the players we wish to keep ? Heard recently we were offered Armstrong on a Free last January by Salford if we took on his contract which er refused and that being why we were not informed when he was sold due to our lack of interest. If you lived in council property the decoration/minor repairs are down to the tenant so get the minor repairs done, this is despite volunteers offering their services free. Has any of the debt to Sage been repaid ?


A lot of good questions there Mr Essex but you're knocking on the wrong door if you expect answers on here.
Apart from asking the club directly, I am at a loss as what to suggest.
My personal stance is I expect action, like serious action on the recruitment this month but I am avoiding beating myself up over trying to speculate.
It is obvious to me that the club keep their cards close to their chest and don't seem to put keeping the fans in the loop very high up their priority list. You will remember I wrote some months ago that the silence coming from the club was deafening and that is still the case. For reasons best known to themselves that appears to be their stance and modus operandi. There is nothing I can do about that so I'm not beating myself up over that either. You just go round in circles until you disappear up your own arsehole.
Frustrating as it is.


Two fair posts: the fact that there is a form of silence from he club does permit a degree of conjecture and my punt is that much of the money may have gone to reduce the loans made to the club by Raj's businesses - and, if so, he does have a right to do this, albeit some may think that, from the club's perspective, this is a tad myopic. Or there might be a view that the club has sufficient resources to stay in the league this season and so we wait for a big push in the summer.


No good waiting until the summer if we go down, no non league expert to get us back up this time if we went down. Oldham and Scunthorpe home games should be a massive warning sign to the club.


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 Post subject: Re: Trevor Carson
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Eiphos_3 wrote:
you also forgot the severance package Stockport paid us for DC.

im now led to believe that DC did us a favour in ramping up that figure in his contract as he knew he would be wanted / was going. The guy actually did us a favour by screwing his new employers for more cash to give to Pools maybe not such a snake afterall, but a clever business man where pools concerned.

If you believe that........ :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Trevor Carson
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Essex poolie wrote:
See he has signed for Morecambe a club on a similar budget according to Raj.


You mean League One side Morecambe? Who are managed by Stephen Robinson, the bloke who signed Carson for Motherwell from Pools back in 2017 and who Carson played for for 3 seasons in the Scottish Premiership, during which time Motherwell were beaten finalists in the Scottish Cup and Scottish League Cup? Not to mention they are both Ulstermen?

Honestly, if you were in Carson's shoes who would you have gone on loan to?


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Essex poolie wrote:
See he has signed for Morecambe a club on a similar budget according to Raj. WHAT is happening with all this money coming in £1.2m from the league, 100k from papa John trophy plus money from FA cup also gates up by 1000 plus on break even giving extra programme sales and bar revenues. Added to this the stadium sponsorship. No new plater despite having a ghost figure in charge of recruitment. Have we learnt from last season and are getting ready to extend contracts of the players we wish to keep ? Heard recently we were offered Armstrong on a Free last January by Salford if we took on his contract which er refused and that being why we were not informed when he was sold due to our lack of interest. If you lived in council property the decoration/minor repairs are down to the tenant so get the minor repairs done, this is despite volunteers offering their services free. Has any of the debt to Sage been repaid ?


Cup run money wont be taken into account till next season under FFP

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Cup run money wont be taken into account till next season under FFP[/quote]


most logical thing ive heard all day - ill stop moaning about the war chest not getting spent if thats the case

although the other fella on the board of directors did mention we had a healthy budget few weeks back lets hope this is still the case


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What if Raj works out how much we should be getting from all this extra activity (cups, bigger gates,DC compensation, Brad Young, increased sponsorships etc etc) and loans the club that amount now, to be paid when all this revenue is active.

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this sound good - i only wish it was true


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we could be at the moment in talks to agents and players right now or sod all is happening. we know nothing apart from the fact these talks take quite a lot longer nowadays than they once did. signing nobody is not the answer but neither is signing bodies worse than the ones we have got and paying for the privelege.


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It has been blatantly obvious we are in need of a decent CF to hold the ball up and for Cullen and others to play from. We were told the club were serious about the January transfer window and there was a budget. So..... you would think that behind the scenes players were being lined up and deals prepared for when the window opened but no, not a sausage...bogger all. Meanwhile other clubs in our division are busy signing players without any problems. I despair.


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It has been blatantly obvious we are in need of a decent CF to hold the ball up and for Cullen and others to play from. We were told the club were serious about the January transfer window and there was a budget. So..... you would think that behind the scenes players were being lined up and deals prepared for when the window opened but no, not a sausage...bogger all. Meanwhile other clubs in our division are busy signing players without any problems. I despair.


It's been obvious since June we can't cope financially for wages, either we can't afford too or Raj just doesn't want too. We had a deal for Carson by the sounds of it then mega bucks Morcambe came along and stole him.


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Morcambe manager is bascially mates with Carson by now - this plus the lure of L1 football - that i dont think was ever in our hands. Just speculation.

I would have thought we would have had at least one loan signing already in the bag before the window opened and least have 1 or 2 in by now. Bit weird when we where told that players would be brought in etc and money was there. Frustrating more than anything as another striker and CB wouldnt go a miss tomorrow.


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Eiphos_3 wrote:
Morcambe manager is bascially mates with Carson by now - this plus the lure of L1 football - that i dont think was ever in our hands. Just speculation.

I would have thought we would have had at least one loan signing already in the bag before the window opened and least have 1 or 2 in by now. Bit weird when we where told that players would be brought in etc and money was there. Frustrating more than anything as another striker and CB wouldnt go a miss tomorrow.

Not speculation Graeme lee basically said it in his interview, thought we had him then morcambe came along.


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just a feeling that this is going to be a continuation of last summer with players being lined up then changing their minds or trying to screw the club. then being left with a few hours to try to work a miracle, do not mind losing out to clubs like bolton or sheff.wed but not the morecambes and suttons of this world.


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Carson’s gone to Morecambe for reasons known only to him.... so he’s history, gone can’t do anything about it.
However he still serves a useful role at Pools as a constant reminder of the last time we had a decent goalkeeper.

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just a note for anyone actually interested. went to accrington yesterday mainly to see trevor play. had a decent games and could not do much about the goals he conceeded. commanded the goal area and made a couple of really good saves. however for a player with his experiance his kicking was awful against the wind in the first half with him getting far too much height on the ball which means it always came down back in his own half. some decent players on view but others also i would not want 1,000 miles from the vic.


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