I have locked a thread for the very first time and that in itself suggests I don't like doing it but members need to be aware that we are responsible for what we print or what we allow to be printed. I am erring on the side of caution.
So please be careful.

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Really?... and what is the ultimate aim?

If and when it does it will have no implications against this forum and that is all I'm concerned about. What happens elsewhere is not my responsibility. If you want to paint the chairman/club in a bad light without the relative evidence that is your choice but you will have to do it elsewhere, and that is my choice.

I thought Raj had built a huge complex under a dormant volcano in Belle Vue complete with monorails, assorted missiles, men in white lab coats and guards in orange boiler suits patrolling... his objective...total control of the Poolyverse..... then we have Essex and chImp doing their kiss and tell nothing, like two old knockers in the News of the Screws in the 60’s.
So what are the Tumpeters of Doom about. Well it’s obvious they don’t rate the Chairman, but if he suddenly upped and said he’d had enough and walked, what then?
I hate to break it to the twins, but that big warehouse where you buy a new manager only exists in your limited imagination.
We’d have a massive problem and you two would melt away like a cheap lolly in June.

f/a/o clubspokesperson

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That is the danger. Social media behaviour is increasingly under the scrutinizing headlights.

I've not seen the deleted post but from what i can gather it is no different to what Eddie Kyle insinuated on BBC Tees. You can't not admit its suspicious how many have departed and in such a rapid timespan. I wouldn't worry about the bunker getting sued over random speculation.

Will admit a few people on here seem to be trolling and baiting now but it's bad form deleting posts again.

Thanks for that Mr Brush but with respect it's not you who has to worry.
I will be over the moon if I never have to delete another post ever but the real solution to that is don't invite it.
We don't ram rules and regulations down people's throats but instead rely on the goodwill and common sense of all posters.

It's all well and good to spout shit in the boozer but when it's in print yer fooked

brasil....thats right ....youve not seen the deleted post..

I missed what Eddie Kyle said.

bluestreak ... I listened to it..hignett was also on as well..all having a good chuckle together with the radio presenters....eddie said words to the effect that 1.people have left and the chairman needs to explain this.2.if big dave had been given more money in his contract by raj he would have stayed 3. raj is not putting any of "his own money" into the club and is "only" using his companies money{and compared him unfavourably for this to the stockport county chairman )4.also had a dig at raj for being a boro supporter not a poolie...all in all pretty lightweight stuff tbh ....no allegations of impropriety or illegality...he probably read a bit on here before he went on air after coming back from his hols....usually like his commentary but dont agree with his slant on things here.....think eddie is big on HUST and knows hignett...did hignett ever get his severance pay ?

Cheers if thats the case its hardly heavy stuff.

Eddie did seem a bit snide in his comments about Raj.
He implied that all of the money Raj has put into Pools is in the form of loans where as the stockport chairman is just giving them money.

I don’t get this Dave would have stayed if he’d got more money.
How much do you pay him exactly so no one can poach him?
There’s always someone who can pay more closer to home.
A ridiculous scenario for people who think someone else’s money grows on trees.

There’s a few people on their high horses strutting about claiming some bizarre moral high since their dear hero did a runner.

eddie runs a little travel firm..assume everyone there is very well paid ..he must be some boss..

I like Eddie but he knows that there was no club without Raj. Until there is another option, the Kyle Consortium 1908 perhaps, then we continue as we are.

The plain hard facts are that Raj saved the club from extinction, however it was done and I don't remember Kyle or Hignett breaking their necks to join in.
IOR's input was in the form of loans, which they wrote off on their exit. The previous owner Blackledge is still owed the money he loaned the club and is getting it back in instalments. What Stockport's owner does is irrelevant to Pools and none of Kyle's business.
I always find it amusing how good people are at spending other people's money.

derwent ..totally agree mate

‘People have left and the chairman needs to explain’.......Why? If he had a business would Eddy make a public statement if any of his staff leave?

‘If Dave had been given more money he would have stayed’. Till a better offer came along.

Ah, the money. As long as it’s legal it’s none of our business.

‘Raj is a Boro supporter’ So only Poolies can own the club, ? ....we’d all be shopping on Saturday afternoons with the wife if we waited for that to happen. There’s plenty of Poolies who’ll happily spend someone else’s money but not theirs.
All candy floss and wishful thinking.

look...at the end of the day ....is daves missus actually a good cook?....what did she cook ??...did the team like it??...did anyone think it was shite and not ask for seconds??...and.... is this what mrs challinor meant when she put out a statement saying that her hubby leaving was "not just about the money"....does she not like cooking or something or what??...oh and who the f..k is this mr crow who is bound to secrecy.....why is he named after a bird ??.....these are the real questions that people seem to be ignoring ....ffs...

Managers these days don't know how easy they have it. Cloughie used to drive the the team bus and repaired the roof on the rink end.

A little correction Mr D

Craigh Hignett was instrumental in convincing RS to invest. The first meeting was arranged by CH and present were Raj Singh, Jeff Stelling, Craig Hignett, Trevor Bennison and myself. The meeting took place at Raj's house

That’s nowt, Pools first manager used to shoe the horses that pulled the teams cart, also worked as a tram horse if a horse was off sick, had rickets, lived in a cave drilled into the North Works slag banks and his wife prepared the beef dripping and pigs ear sandwiches for the half time team refreshments. Aye, Josiah and Wilhelmina Bangiron.

It is common practice for owners to put money into football clubs as loans. The Stockport situation if it is true is rare.

Raj is still risking the loan money and would never get it all back if he were to leave.

Like everyone I wish he had more to invest but surely our recent history should tell us, you have to cut your cloth accordingly.

Back in the football league with a great chance of staying up, finishing top half and possibly even an outside chance of playoffs. I’ll take that and be even more satisfied if we have done it on a relatively low budget.

I’m not saying Raj is whiter than white, far from it, but the doom mongers need to be careful as it was a similar group than whipped up the anti IOR lobby and we know how that all unravelled.

My fault Mr I. I was referring to cash input but to be fair Higgy played a part.

was there just a little teeny weeny bit of self interest involved with regards to hignett's contribution to the rescue ?

If it did crash and burn, the righteous and morally upstanding will be able to stand in the wreckage and radiate smugness to a grateful fan base.
I’ll pay to see that.

Fair point, he did become manager immediately after the takeover.

i know less than whats on a postage stamp...but shame no one else has offered higgy employment as a football manager since.....

[quote="northumberland"]It is common practice for owners to put money into football clubs as loans. The Stockport situation if it is true is rare.

Raj is still risking the loan money and would never get it all back if he were to leave.

the stockport owner is not exactly putting his hand in his own pocket either. all this finance stuff is so boring for me and when i was told what he was doing it went in one ear and quickly out of the other. basically if he walked away today they would be completely fu---d. some of there fans are actually as unhappy as some of us are with the ownership issue.

Wow,our chairman must have a good eye for players signing the likes of Ogle & Cullen.
Maybe he should have a bash at being manger.

big dave and others so so unhappy about his contract....listen.... our first ever player manager fred priest was paid 3 pounds a week...if he was lucky...now at the time he was living in a shoebox... {made out of cardboard]...in the middle of the road down wagga way...his duties included him working the turnstiles on matchdays...as well as stewarding, catering jobs and hosing out the bogs....so daves missus allegedly made a few sarnis for the lads....so what..managers these days dont know they are born.....

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Nice bit of history that, would love it if the club someday remade the original centenary book to include more recent seasons.

Yeah it could be written after 2025 and maybe called 25 years on. Go on Mr Brush have a go.

This loan stuff is nonsense. He owns Prestige Group and he owns Pools. He is taking money out of one pocket and putting it into another. He loans money from himself to himself. It's nothing more than financial smoke and mirrors. He has put a lot of cold hard cash into the club and by the way, will have seen little improvement of income from the football league, most prize money comes later on in the season or after the last game so he is largely still funding operations.

..the voice of reason..

have we got the money for getting back into the league yet. if not when do we actually get it. something thats gone quiet now.

I stand to be corrected but I don't believe there is any prize money from the national league for promotion. TV money certainly but nothing for promotion. I believe this is the same for the EFL. Pools will get the thick end of £1m in EFL money and the trickle down premier league TV money, split roughly half and half. Some of the EFL half of the money will have already come in but not big numbers.

That's a very fair assessment. In its entire history HUFC has only had one period when it was able to punch above its weight financially - the first decade or so with IOR in charge and the Norwegian multi-millionaire oilman Berge Larsen was allegedly pumping in the cash. I say allegedly because Ken Hodcroft's Wikipedia page gives the impression that the money always came from IOR - £7 million invested by 2005 - and Larsen himself has never claimed any credit.

By the time I first joined this board in 2011 Larsen was long out of the picture as he was being pursued by the Norwegian authorities for tax evasion. Pools were in the doldrums in League 2, Mick Wadsworth was manager and Ken Hodcroft was a hate figure for most contributors to the Bunker. A lot of that was down to the way the club was being run - on a shoestring compared to the glory years, as far as the fans could see - but also there was 'a king over the water' - a wronged manager who epitomised everything that was thrilling about the best period in the club's history.

Feels like we could be headed that way all over again with cheeky Chally. There's a major difference - Neale Cooper was sacked in controversial circumstances, Challinor walked away from a 3 year deal, but his alleged grievances will continue to fester in the minds of a lot of fans UNLESS Pools' upward trajectory continues without him. What matters now is kicking on and making the right managerial appointment.

Like the vocal majority of current contributors, I'll continue to give the chairman the benefit of the doubt in the face of the rumour mill. I'm sure Raj Singh has learned that a young, ambitious manager is the way forward, whether it's Tony Sweeney, Woodman or Wild.

An investment for the vast majority means putting in an amount of money with a view to getting more back in the future. Football is no different. Why would Yanks that have no football history, put money into ManU if not to make money? In my estimation Raj is no different but if he makes the club successful at the same time, then good luck to him.

I have always believed that where money is concerned, think the worst - and you will still be way off the truth!

nobody to my knowledge has ever.. ever... made money "investing" in hartlepool united..quite the reverse i would have thought ...alleged fraudsters like our gary may have walked away with a few bob.....but that wasnt investing was it......and no queues down clarence road a while back lining up to grab a bargain were there?.......man united......chalk and cheese?????.... a tax accountant could probably give a coherent explanation of why the wealthy might sometimes decide that buying a football club is worth the trouble ...especially if you are a mega rich private individual.... or a multi national company.... or a middle eastern state... and have so much wonga that you are running out of ideas as to where to put it all.....really dont know ..but sometimes i believe that occasionally money is not actually the reason behind the decision...e.g harold hornsey

Can I just take issue with the word ‘alleged’. Coxhall was a lowlife scumbag thief. No alleged, no possibly, just a statement of fact.

not even lowlife more pondlife

mr i......trying to follow guidance from derwent.... who asked me to be careful.....im on a yellow card .... and am trying to set a good example....particularly given the shite that has been alleged on here recently by some....but completely understand your point on my use of the word alleged in this case....he should obviously be sat in a cell somewhere...how he escaped scot free beggars belief....

indeed.

You're a good lad but like your Grandad used to say, there is always an exception to the rule and Coxhall isn't on any Poolie's Christmas card list and you're not on a yellow card.
My heart skipped a beat though when Mr I used the word "was" in reference to Coxhall.

Can I sound a bit mad here, but if was mega rich I’d invest in Pools out of love for the club. Of course anyone casting aspersions about my intentions would be barred for this life and the next.
Seriously, if I was one of these mega lottery winners there’s a list of things I’d make donations to, because unless you have a ego the size of the moon you’d be hard pressed to blow it all on fripperies. So Pools is on my list. It would be money expended without any return, but just to hear ‘We are The Champions’ at the Vic even once, would be worth every penny.
But there are people out there who bought clubs out of love for their club and gave it security. But like a rescue dog, I’d prefer if it was an established club on hard times and not one of these manufactured model kit clubs with all the support of a rubber crutch.