It was nothing to do with insults, it was purely people saying stuff you didn’t like.

To suggest over 40 posts were deleted because they contained insults simply isn’t true. It is utter nonsense. Hundreds more have now gone.

You made someone a moderator who is the least suitable person on the forum to be given that power.

Hold your hands up maybe and say I shouldn’t have done that and this place might have a future? Hundreds of fair and valid posts have now vanished from this forum it has nothing to with insults it is outright censorship. You have posted more insults than most. Leftwaffe?

It's just depressing. Seriously. Even a once carefree and interesting Pools forum has now turned to shit. Please, PLEASE someone wake me from this awful nightmare called reality soon.

It seems I was wrong to reopen the board.

No it seems you can’t admit you are wrong.

What has been said in this thread that is unreasonable or insulting?

Close the board as I am sure nobody wants to be involved in this. You are just trying to shut people down who you don’t agree with.

I'm not arguing, in fact, stuff politics...they don't even matter to me anymore. I just want some form of normality back, and that includes a Pools forum which doesn't have daily flamewars.

If you're shutting down could we at least have an archive?

Close it down and if you can be bothered Mr I reopen when pools gets going again.

The world is a pretty rough place right now and it appears it’s sent a few people a bit daft. Everything is tense and magnified as most of us are stressed at home etc. It’s the responsibility of everyone to try and be a bit more tolerant of others on here. Forget what’s happened prior to today or at least put it to one side for the sake of all the other users. If people can’t do that then take a break from reading and commenting on the forum until you feel you can. It would be a shame to lose the board completely as it’s a good escape from what’s going on in the real world for a lot of us.

I agree with all of that.

But if you run a forum and expect people not to talk about the biggest human tragedy since World War Two unless they conform then you might as well just close it.

450 users online ..that's some audience.

424 of them are Dibble you thick Loid.

No. Just wrong to not be able to admit you have this so very wrong.

We have a government that fudge everything and move the goalposts to suit them and shut down all comments to the contrary.

You support that government almost blindly it seems. And here you are now shutting down all comments that you dont like.

I have no issue with people being tory but on a forum it would be good to hear counter arguments from them. On this forum none if you tories ever discuss the topics of the day. Just call everyone weird names or momentum.

I asked you to pull up my offensive posts. You cant because there aren't any. Unless you are the self appointed defender of johnson and Hancock. Or maybe you consider calling derwent an idiot offensive? If so you have set a remarkably low bar for this place and yourself.

For the record derwent is an idiot. That's a fact.

Done now?

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I have no issue with people being tory but on a forum it would be good to hear counter arguments from them. On this forum none if you tories ever discuss the topics of the day. Just call everyone weird names or momentum.

problem for tory supporters on what really is a football club messageboard, is that they seem to be in a big minority. not just on the bunker but on other tea,s boards. the vast majority of socialists on footy boards do seem to shout em down somewhat making it hard i suppose to argue their point when nearly everyone is against them. no single person is born with any political leanings and its life and all our different experiances that make us one way or another.

Socialists are always outnumbered , but they are usually passionate and well read about their subject , they have a conviction , they believe in something that in their eyes in right and true, not necessarily of any monetary value , whereas tory supporters are generally not interested in politics, only the money aspect of it. For example if you have stocks and shares, rent houses or love playing japs and commandos you will probably vote tory and dislike Labour and hate Socialists. Labour, particularly a Labour party loyal to its socialist roots would nationalise industry ( there goes your stocks and shares ) build council houses ( bang goes your income or monthly leg over from renting houses out ) and foster peace rather than aggression ( no more games of japs and commandos) that is basically the crux of it , greed , selfishness and individuality as opposed to fairness, equality, justice and community.

I haven't seen anyone being shot down. I hav seen lots of reasoned posts with detail that have been discussed by many except the tory right who dont seem to have a counter arguement.

I also don't believe many are actually labour supporters either. If this had been the labour party making this monumental catastrophic balls up most would have reacted the same way as now.

And tories quoting the brexit debacle need to remember two things.
1. It was their leader that announced the vote whilst being a remainer.
2. Many many leading tories were ousted from the party by the brexit lot this giving the illusion that the tories are all pro brexit. Which they aren't by a long way.

The reason that Tories don’t bother arguing is because there’s nothing to argue about. Labour are always shouty because they always get trounced at the polls. Blair was the only exception and the left don’t even consider him to be Labour.

I’ve no need to justify Boris being in power because he is and will be for the foreseeable future.

It’s the Left who make the noise simple because they are desperate to prove that the election was a travesty. They had convinced themselves that Corbyn was as popular in the country as he was in the echo chamber of the membership. It was demonstrably not the case.

I support Boris. I voted for him to be leader, I voted for him to be PM. I believe he is doing the best possible job he can in this crisis and blaming him for things that happened when he wasn’t in power is just s desperation.

The irony is that he’s a centrist and more committed to the underprivileged that most. He had already started to prove this with his first budget. The left don’t like him because he won and destroyed the saviour.

Its a Labour heavy board. Very anti conservative. That's fine. No need to pretend it isn't because there's nowt wrong with that.

It’s got absolutely nothing to do with the election or Labour and everything to do with what is happening now which Mr I flatly refuses to acknowledge other than very vaguely.

just wonder though how history will judge boris. no matter what he does in the next four years after we get on top of the virus will his running of the country through all this be how he is remembered. never liked blair, but he is seemed to be only remembered for Iraq now and nothing else good or bad he did.

We are going to end up with the most deaths per capita in the World and the second most overall.

He was boasting about shaking hands then nearly died of the virus.

Herd immunity, inaction, indecision, far from impartial scientific advice.

How do you reckon history is going to view him?

Least suitable?
Ok if I get the job instead?

You have a point, one of the least suitable we’ll change that to.

It hasn't no but folks being Labour people does effect their opinion and you can see it on here. Human nature. You'll find people on pro-tory boards not mentioning anything that have been done poorly and boards like this one where it's the opposite. Neither view is accurate. Not all posters before anyone gets offended.

It’s interesting that those who complain most about free speech are the same ones who swoop in numbers on any contrary view to their own.

PJ, I will make my own judgement on the overall performance of the government when it’s all over and comparisons can be made on equal basis. To criticise in the middle of the crisis and slag off the government based on unequal comparisons is inaccurate and pointless.

Can you give any examples of that? I can’t think of any it looks a bit baseless to me.

Most people to me back up what they say with reasoning and evidence. If someone disagrees but replies using the same rules then we shouldn’t have a problem.

Oh behave. There are countless examples and you know it as well as I do.

Where are these rules of which you speak. Who makes these rules........you???
You stated that hundreds of posts had been deleted, when in fact the threads had only been moved. It is in Mr I's rules that he can move, lock or delete any thread he likes. Threads have been moved or locked before.
Yubep stated quite categorically that he had deleted five or six of my posts, so deleting has been done before, Why wasn't there a hue and cry over that??? Or is abuse and insults and deleting of posts ok depending on who you are.

Again. Show these examples. Or You are just noise.

I stand corrected on the posts that were moved, I think it is wrong that they were moved though.

At the time you were posting solely to antagonise people and cause conflict I can see why some of your posts were removed it was awful to read. It wasn’t my decision I don’t agree with removing posts at all unless they are particularly offensive or libelous. To suggest all the posts you moved were abusive is just outright untrue though. They just said things you didn’t like.

The rules are to try and use reasoning when making a point and try and back up what you are saying with evidence. Mr I is failing on that score again in this thread making vague and baseless claims.

And still hasn't explained how the gin soaked one was made a moderator.

All the "who would you vote if there was an election today" polls I have seen lately have the tories with at least 50% of the vote.
Polls about who do you trust when it comes to the coronavirus has the government way ahead of any political party and the MSM.
Labour supporters have always been the most vocal and the most active when it comes to putting their views across. The silent majority though are the ones that make the difference at election times.

Just shows how gullible most are. I reckon johnson could publicly drown a thousand puppies and would still be popular. We live in strange times.

Johnson has the morals of a slug but has a remarkable publicity machine behind him who know exactly how to manipulate the dim.

The recent birth being a prime example of that PR machine.

A story in years gone by that would have been enough to put a politicians career in jeopardy, and at the very least would have been viewed as a scandal.

Or how out of touch the labour hard core are? Works both ways.
And as for morals, there can't be many around these days who can claim to lead a totally moral lifestyle. There was a day that living in sin was frowned upon but now getting married isn't as big a thing as it used to be. Boris may have fathered more kids than most but as long as he's paying for them then thats his business. Rather have that than the baby making machines we see living their lives on benefits.

Not with the fat one. He could shag another ten women next week and still get away with it. Not sure that 30,000 deaths will be that easy to hide in time though

Whether he likes it or not that's on his watch so he is responsible. He wants credit for brexit he takes the blame for deaths.

Wow. Like I said it seems some can get away with anything.

Your last sentence says it all. More committed to the underprivileged ! WOW ! The underprivileged that always go up in numbers under tory governments , the underprivileged that were the norm before the creation of the Labour Party , that then became the working class more or less free from real poverty and finally allowed to live their lives with some dignity until the tories come along again and turn back the clock, yet again creating an underclass and subservient working class , and in time even worse , a class even lower than the underclass , as is the case now in America, that great land of opportunity , that sadly we in the UK aspire to.

It seems some people won't be happy until we are back in the 18th century. Socialism has no room for people being underprivileged. The tories thrive on it , capitalism lives off it.

Coronavirus has delayed the effects brexit would have had and has probably been a godsend to the tories. Let's see how many vote for the mass murderer when they realise how poor they have become.

It’s alright behaving like a scumbag while your wife has cancer if you can afford it in Loan Stars World.

I can accept that to be a good leader being a good person won’t always come hand in hand with that but this bloke falls way short on both counts. I read the other day that he’s changed the way he walks since he became Prime Minister to mimic Churchill (seriously) sadly for him history will view him more like Chamberlain.

Not ‘the’ world, only ‘your’ world.

Boris’s popularity and confidence in him in the country is higher than ever.

Not sure about that, if he is popular , its only because he is not Corbyn , and appeals to the red faced, drink too much , eat too much meathead, muslamic haters who voted Brexit , who want their own laws and country back. It certainly cant be for his redeeming personality or political prowess.

59% approval isn’t bad going.

I doubt that will make much difference after the public enquiry into this disaster.

At a time like this pretty much every World leaders approval rating goes North, rallying behind the flag fight them on the beaches and all that. Even Trumps has at the same time as him progressing to the stage were he’s now completely mental.

Have you ever thought horden when asked to vote on brexit we were voting to leave an establishment we were never given the option to join in the 1st place.

it isn't , and it highlights the moral decline of this country since Thatcher , both harnessed by governments of both persuasions since, its worrying. These things tend to happen in a country in a state of flux , in a setting ravaged by unfairness, inequality , insecurity , corruption , encouraging a dog eat dog , survival of the fittest culture. Whilst the rest of the world goes forward , we are going backwards as a nation , you may be happy with that, I'm not.

That's dead right, Mr Loan Star.
I'm accused of defending the government and get attacked for not engaging in debate over their performance. I'm giving credit where it is due. I think the effort everybody in the team fighting this is very credible and the togetherness is amazing. I think we the people have played our part where we can. The opposition parties are playing their part by refusing to score party political point and only get involved in a positive manner where they are able to make a contribution. I don't get involved in criticism of the team because I am not technically gifted enough to do so. All I want is to get over this with as much damage limitation as possible. Not one area of the team is infallible or perfect and even the experts are saying they are learning all the time. Their advice is ever changing commensurate with the knowledge gathering which they are constantly gaining on an hourly basis. The pace of this disease is frightening and is being met with pace from the people fighting it. I think we should be bursting with pride at their efforts and responses.
Hospital buildings built and functioning within days, the race to find a vaccine is in sprinting mode ( clinical trials within weeks), financial assistance to practically everybody at unprecedented levels etc etc etc. That's my take on it anyway

The left is completely out of touch with reality and that’s why lefty ideas keep on losing at the ballot box.

You lefties can keep telling yourselves that you are good nice kind people but people don’t believe you. The way you lot go on pushes people to the tories - wake up and look at yourselves. Socialism has never worked anywhere - it never will, it’s the politics of losers.

It’s all knee jerk reactions with you lot and most people just don’t need to get involved with you silly points. Maybe if the left wasn’t as hysterical about everything and take every opportunity to kick the tories then they would have credibility in their criticism when they do fuck up something really badly.

The main reason that Boris is popular is because the modern lefty has lost the plot and people do not want to associated with those barmy viewpoints.

Yes we were , in 1975. That was the EEC which then morphed into the EU. If you think you should've had a vote on whether or not you wanted the EEC to morph into the EU , then I suggest you ask John Major , who was the Conservative PM at the time.

For the record , I voted LEAVE , but for entirely different reasons to most.

I can't predict history but trying to score points over the way a guy walks really is taking matters to unprecedented depths. Where did you read that??

I rest my case