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 Post subject: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:15 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:16 pm 
Really? You starting to act like your favourite government?


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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:18 pm 
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I never claimed that this was a democracy. All I ask if that the abuse stops, if that seems unreasonable then forgive me for not agreeing.


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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:28 pm 
Ok so it's not a democracy. As with all if these new rules introduced wherever they are introduced you usually find it's the wrong people that are targeted.

No doubt you will crack issuing out your virtual cards to people. Probably missing the one person that irritates the majority.


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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:33 pm 
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I remember I was on a forum based on PHP just like this one a few years back, had a warning system built in.


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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:46 pm 
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is derwent getting a retrospective one for threatening to shoot a board member if he had a gun ?

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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:50 pm 
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As long as it was post the abuse thread.


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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:15 pm 
MadJohn wrote:
What's Valiant's offence?

I am interested in this too.


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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:32 pm 
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MadJohn wrote:
What's Valiant's offence?


Probably this

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You really are an incredibly stupid person.


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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:39 pm 
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I would doubt that. Not just because it would set a low bar on abuse, but also because if people are going to be banned retrospectively for such posts it's going to get very quiet very quickly. :|


Couldn't really find any other posts by them that would go down as insulting or abusive though.


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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:13 pm 
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How about establishing a consensus on a threshold for unacceptable insults.
I'll set the ball rolling by suggesting "I fucking hate your guts and i hope your mam and dad die in a freak thunderrstorm" is unacceptable.

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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:30 pm 
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Make it a red card, I am more than happy to leave, as I only post on the politics threads and have no interest in football, and once the lockdown is over I probably wont even read the thing anyway.
I stand by my comment, there are people on this forum whose sole objective is to take the opposite stance adopted by the sensible majority and then argue it to the nth degree, making the same points over and over again, and becoming ridiculously argumentative.
It is noticeable one individual is Mr Reasonable on a morning but on an evening, and presumably in drink, becomes abusive. I have been the victim of that abuse on numerous occasions, but I have noticed as soon as anyone attacks him he goes running to teacher and plays the victim card.
Like I say I stand by my comment, to argue that a politician appearing on a chat show should not have to answer any questions posed is absolutely absurd. To suggest they use said chat show as a political platform without coming under any scrutiny is just rank stupidity, as mu understanding is that they are elected by and answerable to the electorate.
Go ahead press your ban button if it makes you feel good. I wont lose any sleep over it.


Well I enjoy your posts and entirely agree with what you have said above.


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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
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Montpoolier wrote:
How about establishing a consensus on a threshold for unacceptable insults.
I'll set the ball rolling by suggesting "I fucking hate your guts and i hope your mam and dad die in a freak thunderrstorm" is unacceptable.


It would be acceptable to me Monty cos it would mean my Mam and Dad were still alive.

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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:35 pm 
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It was a low bar, I was stretching a point, mayb a bit too far. The bottom line is that surely we can debate, discuss and argue without insults. It’s noticeably go worse during the lockdown.


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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:37 pm 
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It's a very bitter place the Bunker. There's not much tolerance for beliefs held by people other than the majority. Its a way of keeping in touch with my home town and its football club and several posters remind me of me Dad.


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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:53 pm 
Its not bitter but gets annoying when people like you dont debate the point at hand but merely state it would have been worse under corbyn and momentum.

I have numerous points and validated them yet you and one other ignore the points made and go off on one about corbyn or momentum.

If you cany see that then maybe it is bitter to you


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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
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I think you're all bellends, the difference is I keep it to myself so I don't get banned.


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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:20 pm 
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preferred this place when it was a takeaway and bunker trust forum

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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
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So the villains on here are "the people on here who take the opposite stance to the sensible majority"

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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
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The villains on here are those who think in terms of villains.
As I said recently, if these discussions were good old arguments over a beer no one would think any more about it or hang signs up in the pub to prove a point.

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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
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Maybe the villains are the people calling other people villains just because they hold a different view from the sensible majority. The accused villains in this case could be called the sensible minority.
Well it makes sense now.

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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:08 pm 
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Valiant wrote:
derwent wrote:
So the villains on here are "the people on here who take the opposite stance to the sensible majority"


That is not what I said at all, and I stand by my comment, you are either a stupid individual unable to grasp even very basic arguments, or alternatively you take great delight in arguing with people purely for the sake or arguing. I suspect the latter based on the comments you have made late at night revelling in the fact you have wound several people up and then boasting that you are smarter than them, and look forward to doing the same tomorrow.
You even managed to be abusive to PJ Poolie in response to a comment where he was agreeing with you, turning consensus into argument once again. If a group of people say the answer to something is A, I can absolutely guarantee that you will eventually pop up and say it is B.
As I said, you have directed a lot of personal abuse at me, you have said that people like me should be removed from "your" country, and when a few people appeared to be backing me, you made the absolutely ridiculous assertion that I had created multiple usernames and was actually all of those people.
I will leave you to your own devices. This is going the same way as the Hartlepool Post Forum where a group of people relentlessly attacked the Council for donkeys years, then as soon as they themselves ended up running the council, they started dishing out bans to anyone on the Forum criticising the Council.
Argue away to your hearts content, I will no longer be reading or responding.


I'll repeat my last answer to you and that is Mr Fatman asked us all to be civil and as you are standing by your comment which has since been deemed as warranting a yellow card ( not by me and this fictitious teacher you refer to), I am not responding to your posts.

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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
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Its not bitter but gets annoying when people like you dont debate the point at hand but merely state it would have been worse under corbyn and momentum.

I have numerous points and validated them yet you and one other ignore the points made and go off on one about corbyn or momentum.

If you cany see that then maybe it is bitter to you


I think that is because you like Labour and are disappointed that they were so hopeless. Me too. I am glad it seems to be changing. I might vote for them down the line.

I get annoyed when people view things with such an irrationally polarised views. Its a kind of extremism. Its human nature I suppose and we have all been guilty of it.

The performance of any government won't be known until later. Some bad things will have happened due to incompetence, some through ill fortune and some because its just a bad time for the world. I was trying to get that across. Sound reasonable?

Finally, even kids know to respect the views of others different to your own, especially if you want to hold civilised conversation with them, let alone get them to see your way of thinking. This would apply for example to someone who has religion or has not or votes Labour or does not. To start throwing names about its uncalled for.


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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
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What's your pistol of choice mr derwent ?


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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:56 pm 
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Laughable !

I don't really believe in yellow/red cards on forums , but if I did the one person I would give one to , is the only person on this board who constantly calls for other people to be banned.

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 Post subject: Re: Yellow Cards Issued
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:56 pm 
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I think that is because you like Labour and are disappointed that they were so hopeless. Me too. I am glad it seems to be changing. I might vote for them down the line.

I get annoyed when people view things with such an irrationally polarised views. Its a kind of extremism. Its human nature I suppose and we have all been guilty of it.

The performance of any government won't be known until later. Some bad things will have happened due to incompetence, some through ill fortune and some because its just a bad time for the world. I was trying to get that across. Sound reasonable?

Finally, even kids know to respect the views of others different to your own, especially if you want to hold civilised conversation with them, let alone get them to see your way of thinking. This would apply for example to someone who has religion or has not or votes Labour or does not. To start throwing names about its uncalled for.


Two things.

Show me where I have used bad language or name called?

Show me where I have said i have ever been in the labour party or momentum


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