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 Post subject: FOOD BANK APPEAL.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:08 pm 
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On Saturday 23rd of November at our home match vs. Boreham Wood HUST, HUFC and HUCSF will hold a collection to support the local foodbank. The collection will take place as part of a town wide event that day.

Last year fans donated enough food for 750 meals and this year we are targeting 1000 meals so please spread the word around.

The Foodbank welcomes donations of non-perishable items such as UHT milk, long life fruit juice or fruit squash, soup (tinned or packet), pasta sauces, tinned tomatoes, cereals, tinned rice pudding/custard, instant coffee, tea bags, rice, pasta, tinned meat and fish, tinned vegetables and fruit, jam, biscuits and snack bars. They also welcome toiletries for men and women.

Donations can be dropped off in the Club’s main reception on Clarence Road or in the Corner Flag and we hope fans will support this important community initiative.

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Will warm milk be accepted?

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tREE_wiTH_hAMStER wrote:
Will warm milk be accepted?


Only if unopened in a carton :wink:

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Get the wife or hubby to clear your unwanted/unused but in date ambient stuff.

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If you haven't got any spare food, just help the poor and needy by voting Labour on the 12th December. Bit of a contradiction if you donate and don't .

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phil wrote:
You're putting a lot of effort into this Mr Butt despite your views on another thread on this very board. Just in case anyone has MonkeyButt on ignore and isn't daft enough to press view message, like I was...

"I suppose people who queue outside churches etc waiting for a hot meal whilst smoking a tab, holding can of beer, wearing the latest trainers could maybe review their priorities, maybe get a job or just toss away their whole life being looked after by the state, I would tell the lot of the able bodied to get a job or don`t eat, like other countries do, no wonder every fucker wants to come here!"

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Seems a perfectly reasonable statement by Mr Butt if you read it properly.

Choose your priorities:

Fags or food for the kids.
Beer or food for the kids.
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I spent time visiting St Aidans to donate coats and while waiting outside in my car for half hour observing, trust me on this one, genuine needy people in a queue waiting outside do not always fit into the deprived category, students with iPhones and smoking, substance users who use all their benefits on the shite and then visit food banks, you live by your choices in life, I feel genuinely sorry for people who are in a bad situation but having 5 kids and no way of supporting them is not my fault or the governments, their choice!

The outraged and political candidates that use the amount of child poverty numbers in this area for their own advantage is scandalous, maybe educate them on budgeting, priorities like food and rent first, phones, trainers and drink/fags/drugs last.

I have first hand experience, sister in law lives this way and the need for weed comes before gas and electric, had a third child living off benefits and no intention of partner working, boils my piss.

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I am absolutely behind the people who run food banks and think it is an unacceptable blight on society and the people in power that we have them in the first place.
I just wish that what we give gets to the people who we want to help, and no one else.
But no matter how hard we try to do this properly, someone will abuse our efforts and intentions.
I don't have any cure for this other than the obvious one which is, let's find a way to eliminate the need for food banks etc in the first place.
However the concept has always been there, in different forms, like the salvation army and their soup kitchens. Angels of mercy.
Everyone has the answer on whose fault it is but no one seems to forward plausible solutions to the problem.

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Monkeybutt wrote:
I spent time visiting St Aidans to donate coats and while waiting outside in my car for half hour observing, trust me on this one, genuine needy people in a queue waiting outside do not always fit into the deprived category, students with iPhones and smoking, substance users who use all their benefits on the shite and then visit food banks, you live by your choices in life, I feel genuinely sorry for people who are in a bad situation but having 5 kids and no way of supporting them is not my fault or the governments, their choice!

The outraged and political candidates that use the amount of child poverty numbers in this area for their own advantage is scandalous, maybe educate them on budgeting, priorities like food and rent first, phones, trainers and drink/fags/drugs last.

I have first hand experience, sister in law lives this way and the need for weed comes before gas and electric, had a third child living off benefits and no intention of partner working, boils my piss.


An age old tory tactic; blame the poor for their plight and separate the deserving and non-deserving poor. That way, we can comfortably look away and not care. [shakes head.]

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Oi Fatman, shake your head all you want, f you`re happy for the junkies and wasters to spend all their benefits on their addiction and then turn up at food banks then good on you, CHOICES, make them count!

Endless kids with no support apart from benefits, why should I pay tax so they can never work, generation after generation, I see it first hand, no intention of ever working, it`s their right apparently :roll:

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Funny you mention St Aidan’s... driving around a lot I know one well known character who turns up at them all for free cooked meals, but was shaking my head when after queueing outside St Aidan’s we spotted him in Starbucks at Tees Bay on the afternoon, the last place you’d expect to see him.
Corbyn promises to eliminate the need for food banks, but he’s whistling in the wind, you never will. There’ll always be a minority even with increased benefits will refer to a food bank or free food outlets and find a better use for extra cash. Anyone thinking otherwise is detached from reality in the big world.

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I have volunteered in two foodbanks, one in Newton Aycliffe and one in Billingham. The people who fake being in this position are few and far between and the possessions of what people own make no difference to if they can put food on the table or not. In a lot of cases, you actually need a phone/computer these days to get payments/redeem things/find jobs. The hoops you have to jump through to be allowed to redeem food is challenging, and when fakers are found out they are frowned upon and are promptly dealt with.

As for addiction, a lot of people are stuck in it. It's not as simple as they wake up, and decide they want drugs today. It's a strong, almost tormenting impulse that is in no way a pleasure. Many users have underlying mental health issues as well. As for children, there is no chance any kind of mother can find time to work if she is mothering babies or toddlers. Even then, the biggest challenge is finding said job in the first place. Minimum wage goes nowhere in covering things like rent and other essential bills.

Honestly, over the past few years I have seen foodbank users and volunteers get run into the ground on social media and I'm sick of it. Here's an idea, if "scrounging" off foodbanks is so lucrative, why don't people quit their jobs and just do that instead?


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The trust - please help with the food bank appeal

Mr butt - please help, but yer all fuckin lying scrounges.

No wonder people put the 2 together n cancel their membership when your involved


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If you choose to have children then you need to have a means of support, sadly not the case anymore and North East has the highest % of single young mothers, the benefit system is their support and it gets worse every year, because they know they will get a flat, food, clothes etc and it is what they know because they grew up in a household that survived that way.

Addiction is about choice nobody forced them to stick a needle in or smoke crack etc, I chose to smoke fags nobody held me down and I stopped when I was out of work for 18 months because I had food and gas for my kids to consider.

Choices, stop making excuses for people who make shit ones and expect the rest to feel sorry for them.

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Yubep wrote:
The trust - please help with the food bank appeal

Mr butt - please help, but yer all fuckin lying scrounges.

No wonder people put the 2 together n cancel their membership when your involved


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Ah another point scorer, not involved in trust just a member, did you take any food down, remember where ground is etc?

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Habit is about choice, addiction goes well beyond that.

Addiction is a disease to kick one is slightly more complex than just stopping.


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The black and white world of the working class Tory. Separating the world into good and bad, deserving and undeserving etc is a simple means of turning away and ignoring the complex reality of people’s lives. It allows for callous indifference to the hardship others face. There is, fundamentally, a complete lack of empathy.

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Monkeybutt wrote:
[quote="Yubep"]The trust - please help with the food bank appeal

Mr butt - please help, but yer all fuckin lying scrounges.

No wonder people put the 2 together n cancel their membership when your involved


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Ah another point scorer, not involved in trust just a member, did you take any food down, remember where ground is etc?[/quote]

Not point scoring, but I know people have left the trust Cos of your association with it, that’s a fact.

Your on the one hand asking for donations, but then slagging off the people who use it.

You should probably stop promoting it on here just incase anyone does associate you with it.


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Ah the 3 who said they would rejoin when I left and haven't, judged by actions and not words!

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PJPoolie wrote:
Habit is about choice, addiction goes well beyond that.

Addiction is a disease to kick one is slightly more complex than just stopping.


Ah, I now realise why you find it difficult to kick your intolerance addiction.
That is two things you have now confirmed.........................the other being the fact that it is totally impossible to educate pork, which you demonstrate on a daily basis with your behaviour.
Are you still sat on your imaginary bus????? :lol:

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Ah the 3 who said they would rejoin when I left and haven't, judged by actions and not words!

People who are two faced very rarely occupy the moral high ground for long, Mr Butt. But you usually handle them admirably which is why you are abused so much on this forum.
They can't handle criticism, and normally gather together to talk collective shite.

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Two good and accurate posts Mr Derwent.

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It was train you made up in your fake story I apologised for my error yesterday it’s hard to keep up with imaginary old women having conversations that never happened on made up modes of transport.

Any chance of leaving me alone you are annoying and tedious. Block time I think. What you have quoted has no relevance to what you have posted in reply, bonkers.

Do you care to explain how I or anyone who is being two faced?

Please use evidence and facts.

What I posted about addiction there is fact by the way.


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It was train you made up in your fake story I apologised for my error yesterday it’s hard to keep up with imaginary old women having conversations that never happened on made up modes of transport.

Any chance of leaving me alone you are annoying and tedious. Block time I think. What you have quoted has no relevance to what you have posted in reply, bonkers.

Do you care to explain how I or anyone who is being two faced?

Please use evidence and facts.

What I posted about addiction there is fact by the way.


There is a very good chance of me leaving you alone if and when you show tolerance to other posters and me. You keep harping on about me making things up. You are accusing me of lying without any evidence. What is happening here is you are getting back some of medicine you continuously throw at others and then you started calling me a liar.
Whereas I can put up with most things I have drawn the line on that one. So keep it up and you'll get it back.
Call that a made up story if you like but you'll soon realise it isn't.
As I've already told you, I was brought up in Whitby street. Anyone who throws a brick at us my friend gets two in return.
The answer is in your hands or block me if you want. I'm not really bothered either way.

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So the old women on the train story was true?

It was told to me as a true story and i accepted that, I have already said that and i also said that it might be fake but it was the message it brought that was important, to me at least.

I have no reason to disbelieve it, simply because i have no evidence to make me disbelieve it and neither have you. You, however, along with others, chose to disbelieve it ( without facts and evidence, using your words).
There can be no other logical reason for your virtual condemnation of me as a liar other than your desire to have a go at me and ridicule me, so i told another story. this time with facts that could be checked and lo and behold that story also got ridiculed. That's when I said to myself....gloves off
Now you have asked the above question now, perfectly legitimately and politely and you have been given a courteous answer in return. Maybe you could have done that in the first place.
You don't have to believe it but there are ways of expressing that.
I have no reason not to believe it because, as I explained before, i could envisage it happening and I think Mr Accrington could see it happening judging by his response but only he can clarify that..
Moving on, you treat me with respect and you'll get the same treatment back as this post shows.
Keep it going if you want, it's entirely up to you but calling me a liar is not the way forward to solving this.
Hopefully we can draw a line under it
On my neighbours thing, I was taking the piss and i don't think anybody realised that although I thought Mr PIN got close. That really surprised me so i kept it going and still people were taking it seriously. Reverse pisstaking maybe????
I'm obviously too convincing because everybody fell for it and some are still quoting it but no harm was done and I thought I was being old bunkerish but never mind.
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I have asked you plenty of fair and respectful questions you can’t seem to answer them though.

What evidence do you that the Labour Party are racist? Do you have any examples or evidence that Corbyn is racist? How does voting Labour make someone racist or someone prepared to turn a blind eye to the issue?

If these a real issues then you surely have examples and vindication of these quite extreme views and serious accusations?

You have launched a personal attack on someone you don’t know, yes I took the piss a bit no offence intended. If you are going to continue to make serious allegations you at some point need to back them up?


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PJPoolie wrote:
I have asked you plenty of fair and respectful questions you can’t seem to answer them though.

What evidence do you that the Labour Party are racist? Do you have any examples or evidence that Corbyn is racist? How does voting Labour make someone racist or someone prepared to turn a blind eye to the issue?

If these a real issues then you surely have examples and vindication of these quite extreme views and serious accusations?

You have launched a personal attack on someone you don’t know, yes I took the piss a bit no offence intended. If you are going to continue to make serious allegations you at some point need to back them up?

We could go on forever over this because it is obvious to me that there is evidence of anti semitism in the labour party, you disagree and yet you have produced evidence of this in the article you highlighted but you don't seem to accept that. The labour party have done exhaustive internal enquires and have tried to stamp it out but you don't want that evidence either. There is an EHRC and police enquiry going on etc etc etc.
Corbyn has failed to eliminate anti semitism, however small the problem so that alone raises questions as to whether he has the stomach for it so , in my book. he is guilty by association. He is the leader after all and as such can't spend his life on the fence. where does the buck stop???? If it was another in those circumstances it would be fair to assume that you and some others would be all over like a rash.

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Racism and discrimination hasn’t and probably won’t ever be eliminated from any walk of life. It’s a bit like saying because of what happened at the Pools Dover game anyone who continues to support the club are facilitators of racism. You and I know that is nonsense.

Corbyn is many things but I don’t think if you look at his background and beliefs a racist could ever be one of them. It’s a crazy world we live in when this is being used to smear Corbyn when the Prime Ministers direct use of racist language is well documented. I am no fan of him myself and understand and respect anyone who chooses not to vote for him but I see a much bigger more important picture here.


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As for children, there is no chance any kind of mother can find time to work if she is mothering babies or toddlers. Even then, the biggest challenge is finding said job in the first place. Minimum wage goes nowhere in covering things like rent and other essential bills.


There lies the problem - don't bring children into a world in which you are already struggling to cope.

My wife was one of 7 children, with an age range of 28 years. They were brought up in a 3-bedroom council house, & of the 7, only 2 of them, in time, bought their own property. One of her brothers had 6 kids - that we know of! One of my wife's nieces has 3 kids to 3 different fathers. How can society be expected to support & house all these people?

We don't build enough houses, either for private or public sector ownership

When I grew up in Hartlepool in the 50's, I think John Joyce had the only bookies shops. I think Binns, the Co-Op & Masons were the only restaurants, & there was Piccadilly Bar too. Now we have towns across the country littered with fast food outlets, coffee shops, bookies, mobile phone & vapor shops. Those are the poor choices where Joe & Josephine Public choose to spend their money; if there was no demand for their products, they would be out of business.


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What if you are coping, bring kids in, are still coping, then summit happens which means you struggle to cope, is that ok? Are they allowed help ?

Where's the line...

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What if you are coping, bring kids in, are still coping, then summit happens which means you struggle to cope, is that ok? Are they allowed help ?

Where's the line...


That's when you need help.

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Next time you should say

FOOD BANK APPEAL IN AID OF THE TRUST (WHICH IM NOT PART OF) - BUT ONLY FOR THOSE WHO TRULY NEED IT, LIKE AT ONE TIME DIDNT NEED IT BUT UNFORTUNATE EVENTS DICTATE THEY NOW DO.

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Racism and discrimination hasn’t and probably won’t ever be eliminated from any walk of life. It’s a bit like saying because of what happened at the Pools Dover game anyone who continues to support the club are facilitators of racism. You and I know that is nonsense.

Corbyn is many things but I don’t think if you look at his background and beliefs a racist could ever be one of them. It’s a crazy world we live in when this is being used to smear Corbyn when the Prime Ministers direct use of racist language is well documented. I am no fan of him myself and understand and respect anyone who chooses not to vote for him but I see a much bigger more important picture here.

You asked the question and I gave you my answer. You have to answer the question yourself. You have to decide if you're doing the right thing and therefore do your own research and decide whether you want to support the labour party warts and all. You have to live with your decision nobody else. it matters not what Johnson does as you are not even contemplating voting for him and his record on racism is for his potential backers and their consciences. Just because Johnson is a racist isn't any excuse to vote for another one.
Racists at Pools don't even come into the equation, they aren't leading any of the parties or are they potential leaders of our country. They are easily dealt with.
The problem you face is each and every time you accuse anybody of racism, you are vulnerable to the jibe of you need talk. You might consider that to be unfair and you could be right but that won't stop people, just as if the boot was on the other foot you wouldn't let it stop you.
You do what you see fit but it might be a bit more pleasant round here if people were a little bit more tolerant.
I also see the bigger picture and i see disaster on a grand scale if Corbyn et al are let loose.

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Next time you should say

FOOD BANK APPEAL IN AID OF THE TRUST (WHICH IM NOT PART OF) - BUT ONLY FOR THOSE WHO TRULY NEED IT, LIKE AT ONE TIME DIDNT NEED IT BUT UNFORTUNATE EVENTS DICTATE THEY NOW DO.


Noted, at least I took a bag as well.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:11 pm 
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Yubep wrote:
Next time you should say

FOOD BANK APPEAL IN AID OF THE TRUST (WHICH IM NOT PART OF) - BUT ONLY FOR THOSE WHO TRULY NEED IT, LIKE AT ONE TIME DIDNT NEED IT BUT UNFORTUNATE EVENTS DICTATE THEY NOW DO.

Oh do give your head a shake.
Here is a bloke who has put himself out to help others and all you can do is attack him, which you do with regular monotany.
I know you have no time for him but can you also cut him a bit of slack.
We all can't be as perfect as you.

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 Post subject: Re: FOOD BANK APPEAL.
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Me and pj haven't seen eye to eye on microlevel but we'll done for sticking up for what is right. monkey butt shouldn't be anywhere near the trust appeal with such vile views and a bloke that has been confirmed as not knowing racist language just a few weeks ago is disagreeing with him is all the confirmation you need to know you are right.


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unruly poolie wrote:
Me and pj haven't seen eye to eye on microlevel but we'll done for sticking up for what is right. monkey butt shouldn't be anywhere near the trust appeal with such vile views and a bloke that has been confirmed as not knowing racist language just a few weeks ago is disagreeing with him is all the confirmation you need to know you are right.


It's you isn't it.......the cleverest man on the planet who knows everything.
He says i didn't know the evil in describing someone as coloured and he is right, i didn't because unlike him I am aware that i don't know everything. However I responded to being made aware of my ignorance and have never described anybody as coloured since. I consider that an achievement and am proud of it, whilst you attack someone who gets off his arse to help other people. I think you've got the word vile at the wrong door mate.

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 Post subject: Re: FOOD BANK APPEAL.
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You responded with a load of guff about being a solicitor and a test you fucking mug.


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unruly poolie wrote:
You responded with a load of guff about being a solicitor and a test you fucking mug.

No i didn't, read it again.
You're right about me being a mug though.
Trying to talk sense to you is a definite mug's game.
What is a test, apart from you???

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unruly poolie wrote:
Me and pj haven't seen eye to eye on microlevel but we'll done for sticking up for what is right. monkey butt shouldn't be anywhere near the trust appeal with such vile views and a bloke that has been confirmed as not knowing racist language just a few weeks ago is disagreeing with him is all the confirmation you need to know you are right.


Which bit was vile?
Did you donate food?
Not near the appeal, just copy and paste on here, bite me!

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You asked the question and I gave you my answer. You have to answer the question yourself. You have to decide if you're doing the right thing and therefore do your own research and decide whether you want to support the labour party warts and all. You have to live with your decision nobody else. it matters not what Johnson does as you are not even contemplating voting for him and his record on racism is for his potential backers and their consciences. Just because Johnson is a racist isn't any excuse to vote for another one.
Racists at Pools don't even come into the equation, they aren't leading any of the parties or are they potential leaders of our country. They are easily dealt with.
The problem you face is each and every time you accuse anybody of racism, you are vulnerable to the jibe of you need talk. You might consider that to be unfair and you could be right but that won't stop people, just as if the boot was on the other foot you wouldn't let it stop you.
You do what you see fit but it might be a bit more pleasant round here if people were a little bit more tolerant.
I also see the bigger picture and i see disaster on a grand scale if Corbyn et al are let loose.


You haven’t answered any questions I have asked you on multiple occasions to supply some evidence or examples of racism within the Labour Party. You are the only person accusing anyone of racism here, and hypocrisy or as you said ‘two faced crank’. Surely it’s only fair you add some foundation to those accusations? You are also making completely unfounded comments about people claiming to experts on a subject when I have said more than once that I wouldn’t claim to be anything of the sort on such a complex, multi layered issue. Pointing out that a phrase is unacceptable in 2019 isn’t claiming that.


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Monkeybutt wrote:

Which bit was vile?
Did you donate food?
Not near the appeal, just copy and paste on here, bite me!


Saying addiction is a matter of choice is at best factually wrong and incredibly ignorant. Nobody would actually choose to get in any dangerous and damaging cycle that can have such a devastating impact on people’s lives.

People always play the system, I agree that culture exists and it’s annoying. But it doesn’t mean a lot of people are in need of help as well.


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So should society bin them off then?


The damage is already done by that time, & those really in dire straits need support, but better education is needed to help prevent people getting into those situations in the first place.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:59 am 
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Saying addiction is a matter of choice is at best factually wrong and incredibly ignorant. Nobody would actually choose to get in any dangerous and damaging cycle that can have such a devastating impact on people’s lives.

People always play the system, I agree that culture exists and it’s annoying. But it doesn’t mean a lot of people are in need of help as well.


Nowhere near as annoying as the many millionaires that play the system. But thats encouraged. Even though it costs more.


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Poolie_on_Tyne wrote:

The damage is already done by that time, & those really in dire straits need support, but better education is needed to help prevent people getting into those situations in the first place.


Not sure how you would propose to educate people. And then make sure that education is acted upon. Unless you force people onto a course assume they understand and then penalise them if they dont carry out that education.


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