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 Post subject: RIP Freddie Star
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 11:38 pm 
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Is Tree with Hamster ok, Freddie ate his cousin!

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Freddie Star
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:20 am 
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A mate of Jimmy Saville so he’s more likely to have nonced his hamster.

RIP? I hope not.


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Freddie Star
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 8:05 am 
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A funny man, RIP Freddie.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Freddie Star
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 8:07 am 
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PJPoolie wrote:
A mate of Jimmy Saville so he’s more likely to have nonced his hamster.

RIP? I hope not.


Presumption of guilt by association? Any vacancies going in the legal profession over there? You'd fit right in.


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Freddie Star
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 9:08 am 
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Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father wrote:

Presumption of guilt by association? Any vacancies going in the legal profession over there? You'd fit right in.


A bit more than association I think in the form of direct accusations, I think an alleged attack took place in Saville’s dressing room.

Either way I don’t think he came across as particularly pleasant individual.


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Freddie Star
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Presumption of guilt by association? Any vacancies going in the legal profession over there? You'd fit right in.[/quote]
have been in the company of dario gradi a few times so be careful folks. i imagine others have been in the company of some who have been found at later as not squeeky clean.


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Freddie Star
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 9:51 am 
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Bit of a gratuitous squeaking reference there Mr Accrington.


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Freddie
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 10:04 am 
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As far as Starr is concerned charges against him were dropped. However, he sued a woman who said he abused her for libel and lost. The judge said that she had proved that her case and awarded a million in costs.


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Freddie
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 10:59 am 
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born toulouse wrote:
As far as Starr is concerned charges against him were dropped. However, he sued a woman who said he abused her for libel and lost. The judge said that she had proved that her case and awarded a million in costs.



Hmm. I went back to the Graun's obit and found the link relating to the libel case.

So the CPS chose not to press charges after an 18 month investigation, but the judge in the libel case thought the balance of probability was that Starr had committed an assault. British Justice works in mysterious ways...


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Freddie Star
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 11:43 am 
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Guess the CPS thought too much time had passed but the libel judge thought Starr was using the libel laws to silence a victim. Strange but I suppose one case requires proof beyond reasonable doubt while the other doesn't. Means you can call him a nonce with impunity though so PJ won't be getting extradited. Not for libel anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Freddie Star
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:52 pm 
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born toulouse wrote:
Guess the CPS thought too much time had passed but the libel judge thought Starr was using the libel laws to silence a victim. Strange but I suppose one case requires proof beyond reasonable doubt while the other doesn't. Means you can call him a nonce with impunity though so PJ won't be getting extradited. Not for libel anyway.


For the CPS to initiate a prosecution, they have to be satisfied that the a conviction is more likely than not. Not quite the same as the balance of probabilities, but it's hard to distinguish between the two tests.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Freddie Star
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So best not to call him a nonce but OK to say he was on the noncey spectrum which seems to have included many popular entertainers of the 70s?


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Freddie Star
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 2:27 pm 
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(nonce but not caught)

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