RIP Freddie Star

[The Bishop]

Is Tree with Hamster ok, Freddie ate his cousin!

[PJPoolie]

A mate of Jimmy Saville so he’s more likely to have nonced his hamster.

RIP? I hope not.

[tREE_wiTH_hAMStER]

A funny man, RIP Freddie.

[Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father]

A mate of Jimmy Saville so he’s more likely to have nonced his hamster.

RIP? I hope not.

Presumption of guilt by association? Any vacancies going in the legal profession over there? You'd fit right in.

[PJPoolie]

Presumption of guilt by association? Any vacancies going in the legal profession over there? You'd fit right in.

A bit more than association I think in the form of direct accusations, I think an alleged attack took place in Saville’s dressing room.

Either way I don’t think he came across as particularly pleasant individual.

[accrington fan]

Presumption of guilt by association? Any vacancies going in the legal profession over there? You'd fit right in.[/quote]
have been in the company of dario gradi a few times so be careful folks. i imagine others have been in the company of some who have been found at later as not squeeky clean.

[born toulouse]

Bit of a gratuitous squeaking reference there Mr Accrington.

[born toulouse]

As far as Starr is concerned charges against him were dropped. However, he sued a woman who said he abused her for libel and lost. The judge said that she had proved that her case and awarded a million in costs.

[Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father]

As far as Starr is concerned charges against him were dropped. However, he sued a woman who said he abused her for libel and lost. The judge said that she had proved that her case and awarded a million in costs.

Hmm. I went back to the Graun's obit and found the link relating to the libel case.

So the CPS chose not to press charges after an 18 month investigation, but the judge in the libel case thought the balance of probability was that Starr had committed an assault. British Justice works in mysterious ways...

[born toulouse]

Guess the CPS thought too much time had passed but the libel judge thought Starr was using the libel laws to silence a victim. Strange but I suppose one case requires proof beyond reasonable doubt while the other doesn't. Means you can call him a nonce with impunity though so PJ won't be getting extradited. Not for libel anyway.

[The Fat Man]

Guess the CPS thought too much time had passed but the libel judge thought Starr was using the libel laws to silence a victim. Strange but I suppose one case requires proof beyond reasonable doubt while the other doesn't. Means you can call him a nonce with impunity though so PJ won't be getting extradited. Not for libel anyway.

For the CPS to initiate a prosecution, they have to be satisfied that the a conviction is more likely than not. Not quite the same as the balance of probabilities, but it's hard to distinguish between the two tests.

[born toulouse]

So best not to call him a nonce but OK to say he was on the noncey spectrum which seems to have included many popular entertainers of the 70s?

[Yubep]

NBNC

(nonce but not caught)