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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:38 pm 
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I can’t believe I’m even debating the next pools manager already but I’d go with Gary Johnson that’s if Hignett deceides not to stay on at the end off the season, Took Cheltenham up from this league look where Torquay where in September when he took over and look where they are now, I believe they are top off the National League South and I’ve read on their message boards that their budget is shite and he’s working with what he’s got and getting the best out off his players. (What we need)

I can’t believe I’m even talking about yet another pools manager been appointed it’s ludicrous, Apparently Money knew the job wasn’t for him 2 days into the job that sais something in my book there must be really something off at pools behind the scenes for him to comes out with that, Wether it’s the budget we have, The current crop off shite players we have, He probably watched and took his first training session in those 2 days and thought “This team aren’t going anywhere soon” probably from that moment on he knew he made a mistake in coming here. Fuck me the amounts off managers we have appointed over the last 5 seasons and failed bar from Ronnie Moore keeping us up but I think everyone knew we would go down soon enough, When are we going to get one right? I mean Dave Jones turning up at his first press conference eating a bacon sarney, That sais it all, No professionalism at all.


The last one we “Properly” right was Danny Wilson in the 06/07 promotion season in my book when we came second behind Walsall, Ritchie Barker on fire the full team giving it a go we could off won the league that Season. Eifions goal at Darlington, Hell off a strike.


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 Post subject: Re: Pools Next Manager
PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:18 am 
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I can’t believe I’m even debating the next pools manager already but I’d go with Gary Johnson that’s if Hignett deceides not to stay on at the end off the season, Took Cheltenham up from this league look where Torquay where in September when he took over and look where they are now, I believe they are top off the National League South and I’ve read on their message boards that their budget is shite and he’s working with what he’s got and getting the best out off his players. (What we need)

I can’t believe I’m even talking about yet another pools manager been appointed it’s ludicrous, Apparently Money knew the job wasn’t for him 2 days into the job that sais something in my book there must be really something off at pools behind the scenes for him to comes out with that, Wether it’s the budget we have, The current crop off shite players we have, He probably watched and took his first training session in those 2 days and thought “This team aren’t going anywhere soon” probably from that moment on he knew he made a mistake in coming here. Fuck me the amounts off managers we have appointed over the last 5 seasons and failed bar from Ronnie Moore keeping us up but I think everyone knew we would go down soon enough, When are we going to get one right? I mean Dave Jones turning up at his first press conference eating a bacon sarney, That sais it all, No professionalism at all.


The last one we “Properly” right was Danny Wilson in the 06/07 promotion season in my book when we came second behind Walsall, Ritchie Barker on fire the full team giving it a go we could off won the league that Season. Eifions goal at Darlington, Hell off a strike.


Any thoughts on this people? I’ll probably get ridiculed as per But fuck it!!

Bring in a manager a month, but we appear to have a team that is generally inert, a can’t be arsed if we don’t feel like we won’t bother attitude.
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 Post subject: Re: Pools Next Manager
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Smithy1 wrote:
I can’t believe I’m even debating the next pools manager already but I’d go with Gary Johnson that’s if Hignett deceides not to stay on at the end off the season, Took Cheltenham up from this league look where Torquay where in September when he took over and look where they are now, I believe they are top off the National League South and I’ve read on their message boards that their budget is shite and he’s working with what he’s got and getting the best out off his players. (What we need)

I can’t believe I’m even talking about yet another pools manager been appointed it’s ludicrous, Apparently Money knew the job wasn’t for him 2 days into the job that sais something in my book there must be really something off at pools behind the scenes for him to comes out with that, Wether it’s the budget we have, The current crop off shite players we have, He probably watched and took his first training session in those 2 days and thought “This team aren’t going anywhere soon” probably from that moment on he knew he made a mistake in coming here. Fuck me the amounts off managers we have appointed over the last 5 seasons and failed bar from Ronnie Moore keeping us up but I think everyone knew we would go down soon enough, When are we going to get one right? I mean Dave Jones turning up at his first press conference eating a bacon sarney, That sais it all, No professionalism at all.


The last one we “Properly” right was Danny Wilson in the 06/07 promotion season in my book when we came second behind Walsall, Ritchie Barker on fire the full team giving it a go we could off won the league that Season. Eifions goal at Darlington, Hell off a strike.


Any thoughts on this people? I’ll probably get ridiculed as per But fuck it!!


Too old :roll: Agree about Wilson though. Need to give a young manager a try , under 40 years of age, or as I said before the appointment of Money, a player manager would IMO be a good fit for HUFC, ideally though you would want someone who had played for us for a number of years prior to taking on the player manager role. Back in the day, thats what I thought IOR were planning to do with Humphries, maybe they were, who knows, but alas it never happened.

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Smithy1 wrote:
I can’t believe I’m even debating the next pools manager already but I’d go with Gary Johnson that’s if Hignett deceides not to stay on at the end off the season, Took Cheltenham up from this league look where Torquay where in September when he took over and look where they are now, I believe they are top off the National League South and I’ve read on their message boards that their budget is shite and he’s working with what he’s got and getting the best out off his players. (What we need)

I can’t believe I’m even talking about yet another pools manager been appointed it’s ludicrous, Apparently Money knew the job wasn’t for him 2 days into the job that sais something in my book there must be really something off at pools behind the scenes for him to comes out with that, Wether it’s the budget we have, The current crop off shite players we have, He probably watched and took his first training session in those 2 days and thought “This team aren’t going anywhere soon” probably from that moment on he knew he made a mistake in coming here. Fuck me the amounts off managers we have appointed over the last 5 seasons and failed bar from Ronnie Moore keeping us up but I think everyone knew we would go down soon enough, When are we going to get one right? I mean Dave Jones turning up at his first press conference eating a bacon sarney, That sais it all, No professionalism at all.


The last one we “Properly” right was Danny Wilson in the 06/07 promotion season in my book when we came second behind Walsall, Ritchie Barker on fire the full team giving it a go we could off won the league that Season. Eifions goal at Darlington, Hell off a strike.


Any thoughts on this people? I’ll probably get ridiculed as per But fuck it!!


Too old :roll: Agree about Wilson though. Need to give a young manager a try , under 40 years of age, or as I said before the appointment of Money, a player manager would IMO be a good fit for HUFC, ideally though you would want someone who had played for us for a number of years prior to taking on the player manager role. Back in the day, thats what I thought IOR were planning to do with Humphries, maybe they were, who knows, but alas it never happened.


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horden wrote:
Smithy1 wrote:
I can’t believe I’m even debating the next pools manager already but I’d go with Gary Johnson that’s if Hignett deceides not to stay on at the end off the season, Took Cheltenham up from this league look where Torquay where in September when he took over and look where they are now, I believe they are top off the National League South and I’ve read on their message boards that their budget is shite and he’s working with what he’s got and getting the best out off his players. (What we need)

I can’t believe I’m even talking about yet another pools manager been appointed it’s ludicrous, Apparently Money knew the job wasn’t for him 2 days into the job that sais something in my book there must be really something off at pools behind the scenes for him to comes out with that, Wether it’s the budget we have, The current crop off shite players we have, He probably watched and took his first training session in those 2 days and thought “This team aren’t going anywhere soon” probably from that moment on he knew he made a mistake in coming here. Fuck me the amounts off managers we have appointed over the last 5 seasons and failed bar from Ronnie Moore keeping us up but I think everyone knew we would go down soon enough, When are we going to get one right? I mean Dave Jones turning up at his first press conference eating a bacon sarney, That sais it all, No professionalism at all.


The last one we “Properly” right was Danny Wilson in the 06/07 promotion season in my book when we came second behind Walsall, Ritchie Barker on fire the full team giving it a go we could off won the league that Season. Eifions goal at Darlington, Hell off a strike.


Any thoughts on this people? I’ll probably get ridiculed as per But fuck it!!


Too old :roll: Agree about Wilson though. Need to give a young manager a try , under 40 years of age, or as I said before the appointment of Money, a player manager would IMO be a good fit for HUFC, ideally though you would want someone who had played for us for a number of years prior to taking on the player manager role. Back in the day, thats what I thought IOR were planning to do with Humphries, maybe they were, who knows, but alas it never happened.


Bates :laugh:


Not as player manager though, he hardly played as a player :laugh:
Nothing would surprise me regarding Pools. It wouldn't be the first time we would of welcome a previously sacked manager back would it. It was the falling crowds that done for Bates, well that and a bit of indiscipline ( allegedly ) within the club. I don't think the hierarchy wanted to get rid of him, after all he was their mate and one of the lads, and clearly a large chunk of fans had his back as well, so it wouldn't surprise me to see him back in some capacity in future.

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 Post subject: Re: Pools Next Manager
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Player manager is about the only thing we haven't tried over the last few years.... experienced Jones and Money......up and coming Harrison and Bates and that in 2 yrs.
We've tried the outsider, We've tried the must know the club. We have no stability and the fans are too quick to turn on whoever the incumbent is once results go against us. I know it a bigger league but Manure fans wanted rid of Ferguson early in his career there and look what he went on to achieve. Now I'm not saying we are ever going to find a manager that would do anything near that but one who stays a bit and possibly gets us back in league and consolidates will do for a while.

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Player manager is about the only thing we haven't tried over the last few years.... experienced Jones and Money......up and coming Harrison and Bates and that in 2 yrs.
We've tried the outsider, We've tried the must know the club. We have no stability and the fans are too quick to turn on whoever the incumbent is once results go against us. I know it a bigger league but Manure fans wanted rid of Ferguson early in his career there and look what he went on to achieve. Now I'm not saying we are ever going to find a manager that would do anything near that but one who stays a bit and possibly gets us back in league and consolidates will do for a while.

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Player manager is about the only thing we haven't tried over the last few years.... experienced Jones and Money......up and coming Harrison and Bates and that in 2 yrs.
We've tried the outsider, We've tried the must know the club. We have no stability and the fans are too quick to turn on whoever the incumbent is once results go against us. I know it a bigger league but Manure fans wanted rid of Ferguson early in his career there and look what he went on to achieve. Now I'm not saying we are ever going to find a manager that would do anything near that but one who stays a bit and possibly gets us back in league and consolidates will do for a while.

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Player manager is about the only thing we haven't tried over the last few years.... experienced Jones and Money......up and coming Harrison and Bates and that in 2 yrs.
We've tried the outsider, We've tried the must know the club. We have no stability and the fans are too quick to turn on whoever the incumbent is once results go against us. I know it a bigger league but Manure fans wanted rid of Ferguson early in his career there and look what he went on to achieve. Now I'm not saying we are ever going to find a manager that would do anything near that but one who stays a bit and possibly gets us back in league and consolidates will do for a while.

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Player manager is about the only thing we haven't tried over the last few years.... experienced Jones and Money......up and coming Harrison and Bates and that in 2 yrs.
We've tried the outsider, We've tried the must know the club. We have no stability and the fans are too quick to turn on whoever the incumbent is once results go against us. I know it a bigger league but Manure fans wanted rid of Ferguson early in his career there and look what he went on to achieve. Now I'm not saying we are ever going to find a manager that would do anything near that but one who stays a bit and possibly gets us back in league and consolidates will do for a while.

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Player manager is about the only thing we haven't tried over the last few years.... experienced Jones and Money......up and coming Harrison and Bates and that in 2 yrs.

We've tried the outsider, We've tried the must know the club.

Christ since Cooper was sacked in 2005 we've had 24 managers including caretakers

We have no stability and the fans are too quick to turn on whoever the incumbent is once results go against us. I know it a bigger league but Manure fans wanted rid of Ferguson early in his career there and look what he went on to achieve. Now I'm not saying we are ever going to find a manager that would do anything near that but one who stays a bit and possibly gets us back in league and consolidates will do for a while.

Oh and my shout if Hignett stays as manager as a DOF/recruitment manager whatever you want to call him would be Mick Wadsworth if he fancied it

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I'm going to suggest something radical, get behind the manager we have and give him more than a matter of months. Seems to work for other clubs, maybe we should try it?


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I'm going to suggest something radical, get behind the manager we have and give him more than a matter of months. Seems to work for other clubs, maybe we should try it?


Outrageous suggestion. Lose on Saturday and Hignett must go.

On the player manager suggestion I was listening to the latest Undr the Cosh podcast this morning in the car and this weeks guest was David Dunne who was probably one of the last examples of a player manager at Oldham. He said its an almost impossible job these days. It's not like days gone by when you had a core of about 14 first team players to keep happy, he didn't have a chance the club sounded a shambles as well and he felt he was just a lazy cheap option because he was already there. It's hard enough at times just to play for a club like Pools or Oldham! He was getting hammered by the fans and it was suggested that the team needed him to come on by a member of staff, he didn't feel like he could leave his technical area to warm up properly and tore his groin the first time he kicked the ball. He was the third sub and was getting hammered for not running about for the last 15 minutes! If he spent the proper time required warming up and getting himself right he's not fully concentrating on managing the team, if he's starting games it's a lot harder to pick on tactical changes while you are concentrating on trying to put in a decent performance yourself. The job is hard enough these days without having to do another one.

The game and levels of fitness are on a completely different level now, I'm am not sure how anyone could balance keeping themselves right to play in high tempo games and putting enough into managing and coaching the team. Plus the squad and dressing room dynamic is totally different. Maybe in the 70's and 80's, not now.

All we need is a manager to be given time to build a balanced team with the opportunity and lack of outside interfernce to do so, it's like this level of the football, not rocket science we don't have to reinvent the wheel. I won't count Dickie Quitter but when was the last time a Pools manager actually had half a chance? Bates was probably as close but he was an inexperienced manager inheriting a tough job. We have got to give someone a chance.


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I'm going to suggest something radical, get behind the manager we have and give him more than a matter of months. Seems to work for other clubs, maybe we should try it?

Give yourself a hard slap, what are you thinking of, give someone a chance? Outrageous thought.
Most fans will give a new manager a chance but when you have a sizeable minority of gobshites like some junky demanding a high instantaneously, moaning before a new managers even arrived.
There’s the snipers who pick away on social media without even a reasoned argument, just a ‘I want what I want’ rant.
This is the problem .
Whether Fishygate is myth or fact, I can see a scenario where some gobshites are having their mouths going as perfectly feasible.

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Christ since Cooper was sacked in 2005 we've had 24 managers including caretakers

that sums it up really. there certainly has been an improvement since then. there are times when a manager has lost the plot but that happens at pools after 1 defeat.


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Christ since Cooper was sacked in 2005 we've had 24 managers including caretakers

that sums it up really. there certainly has been an improvement since then. there are times when a manager has lost the plot but that happens at pools after 1 defeat.


And I would imagine that's the scenario played out at most ex league clubs prior to dropping into the National League North or South or worse still ceased to exist.

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