https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news ... son-group/

What a refreshing way to look at all of the disparate groups and hopefully get them all pulling in the same direction - if not together.
Well done again Pools.

Meh. Call me a cynical, but I have my doubts.

There’s no way I can comment on this without it appearing elsewhere via a screenshot.


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I'm not going until the Blackhall Branch have a say.

Seriously though, always suspicious when supporters are invited to join something the boss ( sorry the club ) thought up. Invariably they end up acting as peacemaker when things are not going well, rather than challenging things when they are not going so well. I dread the day when John Walter Mitty Shithead knocks on my door in around 10 years time at 3am in the morning with a couple of young Poolie Ultras alongside him.

Why would that happen? It’s not like they’ve chosen a liaison officer who’s part of the problem?

That sounds scarily accurate


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Would love to agree with other boards that it will help unite the groups, but I can’t help just thinking that it will do the opposite.

Wait and see I guess.

It is a good idea but the man chosen to lead it caused all the division in the first place. Is Walter Mitty Shithead going to start by apologising for the thuggery and abuse his band of ultras dished out last season to anyone that disagreed with him. They are the reason people like me stopped going to away games. Cant see it happening and very worrying that Pools see him as suitable for the job.

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Apart from past misdeeds up the road this is the first really worrying sign I've seen from the new regime. The Supporters Trust meets all the government guidelines and requirements and has a large membership. So they appoint a liaison officer who is the Trust's most vocal critic who only represents a small number of fans on social media, some of whom were responsible for intimidating other fans at away matches.

Either Raj Singh really loves fancy dress or he wants a liaison officer who is firmly in his pocket.

What it tells me is that, although there are various supporters groups ( as listed), the club have decided that any liason between these groups and the club will be under the club's control.
I did write a whole lot more but have now deleted it.

I don't buy all this division and 'disparate' bands of supporters arguments either, it is a handful of people on social media arguing into the vacuum.

However putting someone in place who was a vocal proponent on social media of the previous regimes to the bitter end when it was quite obvious they were bleeding the club dry and has links to people who were openly and often aggressively anti Trust (a body which has around 1000 of our supporters as members) seems like a bizarre and divisive choice as opposed to a peace making choice

So just when things are turning around at the club and a feel good factor is returning the new regime make what for me is a very bum steer that has made me personally angry and disappointed rather than positive. I think the club could have let sleeping dogs lie and let the supporters get on with supporting the club positively as the in fighting was a big by product of the problems off the pitch. This stirs up bad feeling for no reason in my opinion, at the very least they should have gone for a totally neutral individual

What is the word for somebody who spreads shit but smells of roses, not farmer

Singh promised a new era but Maguire who was appointed by Duxbury has now given a fans rep job to a club man who was so far up Duxbury and Coxalls arse you couldn't see him. Talk about same old , same old.
Presumably Pearsons role will be the same as last season, to get his ultras to threaten anyone who criticises the club with violence. Lepoard wont change its spots and this seems to be more about putting the Trust back in a box than anything else now they have done the dirty work by getting rid of Watson and Duxbury. No wonder the other mob are rejoicing.

Sounds like he who shouts loudest ..

Care to elaborate on those serious question marks over finances for the rest of us. Or is this more fake bunker/yubep news.

Racheal is putting the last 2 grand form the original Fund Me into the pot for the Youth thing. What has happened to all the money from the second appeal gone ? That was money was raised by Hartlepool Council and others and meant to go to the club to pay bills so where is it now and who has it sat I their bank account.

Of all the messages on here you reply to mine. How predictable.

I don’t need to elaborate on anything for your benefit bob if you are that interested search my posts.




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Fake news that mate


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The Trust should not have attended. This is one of the core problems with the trust these days, they think they're a supporters association. Bingo and Golf days No, No No. It was set up for a serious reason, this is not it and this along with its impotence and fence sitting during the recent crisis; this why its now a failed venture.

Spot on Mr I. Spot on

So the Trust are invited to a meeting about a supporters liaison group which is meant to encompass all of the various fan groups and you think they should not have attended?

I’m sure that would have went down well.

Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

Anyway that’s my last involvement if this shite, too many agendas it’s all tedious and something I hoped was in the past.

They should not share a table with those who support violence towards other fans.

It was in the past PJ. Who’s fault is it that it has returned?

My information is that all the different groups, including the trust, were invited to a meeting by the club on Monday. The trust didn't know what the meeting was about until they got there. They were duly informed of the club's decision at the meeting and were requested not to publish the information until after the club had done so.
The trust, along with the other groups were presented with a fait accompli.
As far as I am aware no previous discussions on the forming of the group or of it's officer took place.
If anyone is guilty of opening old wounds it is the club as I, along with others, am not happy with either the procedure used here or the ultimate appointment. The club have appointed a known and vociferous opponent of the trust and many and varied conclusions can be drawn from that.
As I have said earlier a meeting should have been called with all the various groups and the idea should have been put to them that this was an attempt to unite all the groups under one banner. The groups should then have been invited to suggest/ nominate or ask for volunteers from the fans to fill the role of liaison officer or even a small liaison committee with a chairman. In the event that several nominees/volunteers were forthcoming a ballot among the fans should take place to decide the fans choice.
I would be fully behind that procedure and if, after that procedure, John Walter Mitty Shithead was elected, I would support the result. I can't be fairer than that.
If we are to have fans representatives, they need to be the choice of the fans and not appointed by the club.
That is transparent and fair.

naff pies does need discussing!

Great post.

Was there really a big problem with the different groups anyway? just a few idiots on Social Media. This role isnt neccesary , and can only see it making things worse not better, but if there has to be a role, as Derwent says, it should of been voted on , not someone just parachuted into a role.

There you go you see. To attend any meeting without an agenda being circulated is at best a complete waste of time. For a meeting to be useful people need to have time to consider proposals and formulate a reasoned response after taking soundings from colleagues. For then to accept this fait acompli without consulting is just lame. To not protest when the person announced as Liaison Officer and who seemingly is there to co-ordinate these groups is unfathomable and when you consider that at least two founders of the supporters trust were physically attacked by a group orchestrated by Walter Mitty Shithead to accept the decision is beyond belief.

Personally I would not have attended in those circumstances and I would have not have agreed to be part of a organisation led by someone with that track record and who was so vocal against the trust and outspoken in his support of the Coxberg regime.

^^^^this again^^^^

Surely the only ‘agenda’ anyone should have is wanting the club to be successful moving forward? Everyone of whatever fractious group they belong or however they feel wronged is the same at the end of the day, a Pools fan?

Loads of shit has obviously happened, move on perhaps? What is not attending going to achieve apart from more fractions and resentment? Meet face to face and discuss what’s gone, Internet sniping achieves the square root of fuck all coming from a seasoned internet sniper!

Seriously how has it come to you this why doesn’t everyone grow up and get behind the club?

Everything was moving on until a couple of days ago. Only one organization at fault here

I thought the saving of the club and the improved form on the field was helping bring the fans together anyway. For the record I have known John Walter Mitty Shithead for a number of years , he is a decent bloke , and it goes without saying a great Pools supporter and someone I consider a friend. He is a capable lad and I'm sure he will do the job well, I don't think he will be working to an agenda like many might think. Like I said earlier, I don't see the need for this role, but if the fans had been consulted and there had been a subsequent ballot, the result would probably have been the same, but it would of given others a chance to throw their hat into the ring and give the role some credibility.

Surprised John wanted the job myself , but nothing surprises me anymore in this life, especially were Pools are concerned.

How do you know it wasn’t challenged?

So if we form a new group do we get invited to the tickly sessions?

Anybody want to join the Poolie People’s Front?

My thoughts:

Little bit frustrated at the football club for seemingly not thinking through their appointment, and at the very least they should have consulted all groups first. But him as much as anyone will need to show he can work with all groups, and if it helps create an opportunity to develop relationships and understanding between groups then there are some positives.

In terms of the trust, they are in a position where they have to somehow balance many factors to help them to their aim of getting on the board:

- show they can work with different supporters groups
- build a relationship with the club and new owners
- but also challenge the club and at times be quite public with this
- yet keep their own identity
- recognise that the new owners have had a positive impact so far
- but push for new membership and fundraising to help secure the long-term future of the club
- push for fundraising that may not even be used for years to come
- help educate fans on fan involvement/ownership models

And all of this whilst getting abuse (albeit mainly on social media) usually from people who have no idea what work the trust have put in.

Oh and somehow appeasing their members as well.

I for one think it is one hell of a balancing act and will continue to support them for it.

Because I do. It was a tickle belly session with the only questions around what the role entails. No one stood and said WTF.

Firstly Mr Tart, I would debate some of your points in terms of the task list but you've got the overall gist there. In my view its now lost its way but that doesn't detract from your points.

I happen to know something about Supporters Trusts and I know a even more about receiving internet abuse while setting up a trust for the benefit of all. That said I was never physically threatened but two people were by the FTT mob, one of which left the Trust, the club and hasn't been back since such was his disgust. The second is still on the board of the Trust and I don't believe is happy with this decision. There was also a couple of resignees because of the level of abuse, one of them a woman. Moving on is possible but that has to start with an apology to those individuals concerned. I won't hold my breath.

The post wasn’t designed to be a debate about the level of abuse - I followed with interest when you played a key role in setting it up and admired the way you and others persisted despite this abuse, and is part of the reason why I signed up as soon as it was set up.

I won’t hold my breath about an apology either, and trying to move on doesn’t change what happened. But somehow it has to.

I hope that does not sound disrespectful as I think it is a crying shame that the first fan in question doesn’t even go to the games as from what I know of him he is a top geezer and top supporter.

I have no issue with the supporters coming up with funding for the apprentices academy which apparently was the core theme. In fact it’s a perfectly good idea but the appointment of this Liaison Officer was a bad move in my view.

With this appointment Pools have either been completely stupid or completely brilliant

As yet I can’t decode

I don’t feel like they are appeasing their members at the moment, or at least I personally feel less and less attached to the whole thing. I was a massive Trust supporter and was on board very early doors but I think all the momentum has gone out of it now and to be frank they are stuck in a rut.

We got a fairly disappointing email early August outlining what they’ve done over the last six months but there’s still nothing in the way of a real, clear vision of what they are trying to achieve and how they are going to do it and the lack of openness with the membership (eg the report on the clubs finances, the strangeness of johns departure etc.) doesn’t help. The slow response to the obvious “**** you” from the club to the trust is really surprising, I appreciate the club wanted to release the statement first but something should have been said by now.

I thought the mainaim was to raise enough money to purchase a place on the board? Especially keeping in mind the funding gap after year two.

And if this is not achievable then it’s still vitally important to keep raising money as a safety net if the current or any future owners goes tits up. It looks positive right now but for me it’s even more important to keep the focus for when it isn’t so rosy.

I'm not going again until we have a statue of Andy Jordan.

There’s one being built out of clay to go in the ian Thomas Moore hall of fame


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Only at Hartlepool United, not many supporters , but have the most fan groups in English football.

You should set up a horden based group




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I will , if there isn't already one.

Anyone wishing to set up a new fans' group should bear in mind that I have already registered the following domain names:

Horden Poolies,
Crimdon Dene Poolies,
Seaton Canoe Poolies,
Yakker Poolies,
Darlington Poolies,
FC Lahti Poolies,
Dubai Poolies,
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Slaphead Poolies
Grown Men Acting Like Daft Kids Poolies.

Reasonable cash offers for any of the above will be considered.

Punjabi Poolies is mine.