Average attendance 655 but in playoffs.................

If they did make it up it would be interesting to see how they get on. Low crowds hasn't done Accy any harm.

Yes probably be in championship in a few years like Burton (were)

Further proof what a shockingly bad league this is.

Shockingly bad or further proof of rich people having tiny clubs as playthings that they chuck money at without any hope of it ever breaking even without a massive input of cash from them.

I actually had to look this up to see what league they were in as they have left absolutely zero imprint on my memory. WTF - are we really in this league?
The question has to be asked, though, was the team they beat any better supported?

They're owned by a wealthy group of brothers but also get stupid money thrown at them by Arsenal for having their development and ladies sides play there. They play a friendly every pre-season but last summer they also invested something like £1million in infrastructure for them.

Loaned players from Watford, Bournemouth, Barnsley and Newport this season also

I wonder how many they will take to Wembley?? I was watching their game yesterday, We also could be playing Harrogate next season to they won their match against Chorley and are in the final it woudnt be a bad day out in Harrogate been a few times but not to their ground, They scored a 94th minute winner they have a half decent striker in Dom Knowles a can't see him staying there much longer with the goals he has got.

Would prefer Tranmere back in L2, no disrespect to Boreham Wood but have no real support. I was taking to one of their fans after our game and was reckoning Arsenal effectively sponsor them by paying big fees for their women and youth teams using their facilities. He also reckoned Morgan Ferrier was on about 1.5 k a week. Fair play to them to have a good season in the National League.

I would prefer Tranmere to go up, if we're going to challenge next season we could do without them as competition.

I don't expect Borehamwood to be up there again next season.

This.

Can already imagine Barnet being up there like if they keep Martin Allen. I think Orient will be much higher up as well.

The National League will never be easy . Chesterfield will regroup as will Barnet if they keep Martin Allen. I would also worry about Salford they were strong in National League North, and will have the clout to bring in the best players they can. The division will also be stronger without Guiseley and Chester.

This division will never be easy some of the part timers were surprisingly good like Ebbsfleet. A lot of how it goes will depend on our recruitment in the summer and .Bates ability to manage and deliver results.

Chesterfield are in about the same mess that we were in when we came down last season. Debt and behind the scenes turmoil, players on 2 year contracts who didn't perform at all in League Two and looking for a new manager.

Pools didn't find it easy to adjust last season, neither did Orient. They'll do well not to struggle.

took luton and lincoln years to get back into the league and cannot see chesterfield to be any different. seems as much about getting a sugar daddy at this level than adjusting to the league. could be a cracker against the famous hampton and richmond next season.

IIRC Luton's return was delayed two years by being totally robbed blind by the ref. in their conf. play-off final against York.
I admire Luton; it's the only town that's ever thrown me out of a bar.

Going to be a tough season for us I reckon I would be over the moon if we finish in the top 7 or at least try and push for the top 7 we can't do any worse and play any worse than this season, But with Salford, Leyton Orient, Wrexham , Dover , Barnet I imagine they would all be changelling to be up their specially Salford I think they will splash the cash this season and recruite the players they need to be up there, They will be a football league team in a few seasons, Also if Harrogate come up I can imagine them been a dark horse in the National League they play against Brackley in the final on Sunday they will be a team to watch I have a few mates who go to their matches and say the football they play is brilliant.

Not sure brilliant football works in this league!

No chance we'll be challenging playoffs next year imo

Mid table i would guess.
We are going to get used to this league for a good few seasons yet.

Not sure how anybody can predict very much for us and hope to be accurate.

The plan that Singh and Stelling put forward included pretty decent funding and we know Hignett can spot a player from his last spell at the club. If Bates can get the best out of the players that he's left with and then integrate new signings well we could be a decent, well-organised side. Seems like that's good enough if you can do it consistently so I suppose that's what will tell us whether Bates was a good appointment or not.

I'm pretty hopeful but at this stage there are still way too many variables to even consider a tiny bet on any outcome.

Agree - it's all about consistency, which was in short supply this season. Tranmere and Sutton finished 2nd and 3rd despite losing over a quarter of their games. Macclesfield won it by 10 points because they 'only' lost 8 matches.

Pools need to remember how to win most of their home games - if they do that they'll be there or thereabouts for the play-offs. It's that and another cliche - sorting out the spine of the team. Regular goalscorer, midfield ball winner, centre backs who know how to defend.

See Martin Allen has decided not to continue with Barnet. Would have fancied them to go straight back up if he remained in charge

I was looking at the league table for 1967-8 earlier, today is the 50th anniversary of our first promotion, our home record was 15 wins 7 draws and 1 defeat. Oh for a season like that, we weren't bad away either with 10 wins.

http://www.inthemadcrowd.co.uk/UI/Seaso ... id=1967/68

Without seeing the actual figures, my first recollections of watching in the 50's was of a team (Moore,Newton, Stamper et al) that gave very little away at the Vic but were hopeless on the road. However in those days few could afford to travel to away games but the home form kept the fans happy. Winning most home games must be a priority to get us near to the playoffs with the Vic becoming a ground to which no opponents relish a visit.

Back on topic; what on earth can Liam Ridehalgh have been thinking to be red carded after 48 seconds of the most important game of Tranmere's season?

If I was his manager Tranmere would go into the EFL without him too.

You never heard of adrenaline

The ref has got to be a bit of a bellender who thinks everyone has come to watch him to make that call after 48 seconds of a Wembley final. Unless it was outright assault or a no brainer like handball on the line you surely show a bit more leeway so early in the game?

The right result for proper football I reckon Borehamwood raised a few thousand fans for the 10 mile trip to Wembley, a lot more than the few hundred they normally get granted but still surely unsustainable at Football League level? Also weren’t they horrible and cheating when they played at the Vic so fuck em. It’s always more encouraging to see a club get back our turn next hopefully!

None!

Tackle was a clear red, shouldn't of mattered what minute of the game it was in, the other guy was lucky not to have his leg snapped. 1st minute, 45 minute, 90 minute, red card

It was bordline between yellow and red for me, it wasn’t a good challenge at all as he went over the ball but I don’t think it had any malicious intent, just adrenaline and a few nerves. The time into the game can be a factor as well I think you can referee with common sense it’s not always black and white and the occasion with it being so early were a factor to me. Book him, explain he’s fortunate to stay on the field and that he’s walking a tightrope for the rest of the game. Fortunately the lad wasn’t injured either do a very clear yellow would have been my call that early in the game. It was a clumsy and poor challenge but excessive force? I reckon most refs pull out yellow after 48 seconds, more of them pull out the red if it’s not first minute probably as well whether that’s right or wrong is another thing but I am all for common sense.

Out of control, rules is rules etc.

The actual law and the way it’s termed is if the ref deems the challenge to have “excessive force” so it’s down to the discretion of the official it’s not a rule as such like a handball or professional foul. I can see why it’s a red card, but not after 48 seconds of a Wembley play off final. One of the problems in the game is that’s become far too easy to get sent off and far too many games get ruined by red cards.

Glad to see justice was done in the end. I like the play offs and one of these days it might finally be the chance to go and see Pools (lose) at Wembley.

If that had been Pools in Tranmere's shoes we'd have held on heroically till extra time and got beat 4-1.

There is always going to be differing opinions on the dishing out of red cards, which is probably one of the reasons appeals are allowed.
When it happened would never have an influence on me, whether it is first or last minute and I don't think that would influence an appeal panel either.
I accept that it reduces the game as a spectacle but if it was commonplace for referees to give more leeway early on, then managers would be encouraging the players,even more than they do now, to "impose" themselves during the early stages.
On the evidence I saw the player would be sent off and, like I said earlier, it is very unlikely that an appeal will be lodged and even more unlikely that, should an appeal be lodged, it would be successful.
That's my take on it anyway.

When it happens sometimes should have an influence though (depending on the severity of the offence obviously) but a challenge is more likely to be mistimed in the opening couple of minutes when players haven’t got the pace of the game and are pumped up from team talks ect, that is the especially the case in a play off final.

I always find it really poor refereeing when a sub comes on and is booked for the first challenge they make within a couple of minutes just because the referee has got to the stage of the game when most challenges are bookings. They are the most likely person on the field to foul someone when a couple of minutes earlier they were sat watching. Just have a word and say next one you’re booked. At the end of the day we want to see 11 v 11, you see far too many red cards these days.

What I saw was a two footed lunge which could have been very serious and put a fellow professional out of action for a considerable period, thankfully it didn't.
If that tackle had been aimed at one of our players I would have been fuming.
It was reckless and unnecessary and got what it deserved in my opinion.
So far nothing that I've seen or read has made me move back from that opinion.
I don't accept that one minute is any different from another. It's all about concentration and anybody in football worth his salt will say that concentration is necessary from the first whistle to the last.
We all interpret each situation as we see it and I've given my interpretation as I saw it. I can't say more than that.

It wasn’t two footed, it was slightly over the ball but I don’t think their was any intent to hurt him.

He certainly wouldn’t win an appeal as I can see a strong case for a red card, personally though I would have gave him a yellow card after 48 seconds of a Wembley final.

darlo play-off defeat when gabbiadini allegedly got punched by a fan ?

I seem to remember a professional foul in the first 10 minutes but was given a yellow and the rest is history. I called talk sport after the game and basically said the ref bottled the decision.

I may have just been pissed off with the result mind....