Can a group ever be better when a key member goes????

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:51 pm

Like, I dunno, Vince Clarke?

In the same line of "Was it better before?"

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:04 pm

Floyd did some good stuff after Syd went.

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

Sad to say because he went downhill fast when he got kicked out, but the Stones after they got rid of Brian Jones - and they used to be 'his' group.

Wish they'd knocked it on the head 30 year ago though.

ElvisC · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:55 am **Posts:** 4504

Marillion.

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:21 pm

Thought you might have said Queen Phil!!!!

horden · **Posted:** Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:35 pm

Music not really my forte, but I'll throw a couple in just to hopefully start a riot.

AC/DC

Joy Division/New Order

Yossarian · **Joined:** Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:29 pm **Posts:** 801

The Beatles were better after Paul died in 1966 and was replaced by a lookalike.

charco · **Joined:** Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:24 am **Posts:** 885

Yes, improved immeasurably when Steve Howe joined after the second album (Time and a Word), and then again when Rick Wakeman joined after the third album (The Yes album)

Pooliedor · **Posted:** Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:52 pm

Big Star: when Chris Bell left, Alex Chilton was pretty much left to his own devices and that gave us two classics, two groundbreaking LPs, much more adventurous than Big Star's first album.

Pooliedor · **Posted:** Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:52 pm

While I'm at it: Maurice Deebank was one great guitarist but to me Felt made tsome of their best stuff after he left including Forever Breathes the Lonely Word, probably their strongest, most coherent LP.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:28 am

ElvisC wrote:

Marillion.

I agree that Steve Hogarth nails it, but I still like listening to their second and third albums and I'd put Jigsaw in my top 10 "layman's prog" tracks any day.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:49 am

charco wrote:

Yes, improved immeasurably when Steve Howe joined after the second album (Time and a Word), and then again when Rick Wakeman joined after the third album (The Yes album)

Which was good for a couple more albums, but it took the Buggles to put an end to their eventual silliness (not that I especially considered them an improvement).
Rick Wakeman eating a take-away during the their live performance while he waited for his turn says it all. It's a toss up between them and ELP as to who was first past the point-of-no-return post.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Sugerbabes

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Montpoolier · **Posted:** Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:16 pm

But not the Sugarcubes, though to be fair it would have been pretty hard to improve with nobody else left.

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:15 pm

Montpoolier wrote:

But not the Sugarcubes, though to be fair it would have been pretty hard to improve with nobody else left.

It's a shame that shouty bloke didn't leave. He ruined tons of their tunes.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3573

The Human League moved on too the big time when Ware and Marsh left..and Heaven 17 were alright.

Barriewardrobe · **Posted:** Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:26 pm

ELO did okay without Roy Wood....

Can a group ever be better when a key member goes????

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