Does anyone else think it is counter-productive to have these players back in training the very next day after a game?
I’m all for getting players to realise that under-performance is going to lead to more work on the training ground but having them back in on a freezing soaking Sunday is not going to do anything for morale. It’s just going to piss them off even more. And like it or not, they aren’t going to perform well if they aren’t happy.
And how are we going to attract better players if they know they are going to be back in the next day after a defeat. Especially if they have to travel.
Training as punishment doesn’t work. Look where we are.
We have 6 days until our next game. If The coaches can’t get them playing better using 4 or 5 of those days then the problem isn’t with the players.
This squad should be more than good enough to be higher in the table. Start by playing our most effective forwards ( Franks) and leaving out your least effective ones (Rodney). These are not the days to hope that players mature before your eyes.

Yes, but too late now, should of been in last 3 Sundays. The trainings p*ss easy anyway, running around training cones, PAH!!!

We aren't scoring goals at the end of the day, 6 blank sheets in our last 8 games, we need to get the 'whole' squad working on that, our central defenders never look like scoring in the opposition box, our midfield has a terribly poor return and now our forwards efforts have dried up. Franks returning will help but we need to find other players who can finish, the squads goal output is pathetic.

Everytime they get beat the next morning get the to do a full circuit of Summerhill then onto Steetley beach up to crimdon dene and up that steep bank at the Arches.
Call it a loss bonus for the spineless bounders.

Whoa, this training as punishment is bollocks. This is the manager saying it's the players fault. It may well be, but what 'punishment' does the manager receive when things go tits up?
It's your team, your chopping and changing tactics and your communication with your players.
Look in the mirror.

If we weren’t in training today the same people would be saying we should be in training today.


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The players need to demonstrate they care about the club and take responsibility for the results too. Effing prima donnas who don’t have any pride in themselves

They should train only on odd nights to prepare for going part time.

Unlike the 70s non league players today are as fit if not fitter than the pros. These lads do a daytime job then go for a run/gym afterwards. Our players may be fit, but they are not tough/hard enough for this league or the one below even

Back in the day players worked a shift in the docks, shipyards, pits, steelworks then played football in a very tough way. These lads lived a hard life and basically weightlifted for a living. No wonder the rucks between yakkers and poolies were not for the fainthearted.

Nowadays, they're a bunch of Nancy boys in pink boots by comparison.

We agree on that Mr I , and they generally used to live in the same community as the supporters anarl, though they may of had an outside toilet.

The game has changed, even I have to admit to that , but even in the modern game you still need a bit of mental and physical strength, particularly in the lower leagues. Only at the Man City / Barca level can you rely on skill only, yet so many clubs like us , try to emulate those clubs on the training ground and as a club policy. That is why we are struggling because clubs in our league have their feet on the ground and just do the basics right. We are like a stuck up family who have lost their middle class home and are trying to be posh in the middle of a council housing estate.

It's like comparing different sports going on about the old days. I think English football has suffered in the long run for that mentality, only now are we producing more technical players at younger levels.

Going on about ship yards and calling people 'nancy boys' has no relevance whatsoever to what is happening at Pools now. From top to bottom the club is failing. I wish we had a few players good enough and confident enough to wear some pink boots. It's like Yubep said, it's damned if you do, damned if you don't. The same people would say the players should be in on Sunday morning if they weren't.

It doesn't help when the manager bloods an up an coming prospect such as Simpson. who then amazingly takes part in a team that wins 2 games against 2 of the better sides and then puts him out to grass , to be never seen again.

Now I have heard in the pub today about Simpson and contracts etc, but if this is true its fookin unbelievable and typical pools.

Post what you heard then!?

I'd imagine it's bollocks.

It would be in Pools interests obviously to get the lad to sign a pro contract as he has obvious attributes that bigger clubs will be interested in, that doesn't mean to say he should be a regular starter at this level as a 17 year old.

Probably PJ. Something about him not playing so he could have trials with West Ham/ Barcelona/ Boca Juniors etc,

I agree he should be playing, Yesterday would of been ideal for him imo

That's clearly nonsense, the biggest issue with him is that he's not signed a pro contract so I doubt Pools can do much do stop him having trials where he likes. If I was advising him as a player at his age I'd move him on, I was reading last week a thread dedicated to him after the Liverpool youth team game slagging off his performance basically saying that he's shit. A 17 year old kid after a youth team game against vastly superior opposition. I'm not sure I would play him, I'd try and get him to sign a contract then sell him for as much as possible before he can get fully exposed to some of the shit young kids get from grown men Pools 'supporters'.

I was at that game and to be fair he doesn't look like a footballer to me, a strange gait and way of moving about, a bit like Rhys Oates. It could be his height, but the knockdown for the goal was impressive, and that for me is what we should be concentrating on.

He should be playing week in week out at this level, a move to a bigger club would ruin him imo. In saying that playing in this team now could ruin him. Ideally you want a young in like him alongside a Newton or a Baker such as Houchen and Fletcher had the pleasure of.