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 Post subject: I didn't even know there was a draw etc..
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:29 am 
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Would be an ideal draw, however in the grand scheme of things it means nothing as we'll get knocked out in the quarters anyway.

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I've just done a predictor thing and i got Russia England Sweden Panama

We'd do well to get 3rd in that group.

Really fancy us to get iceland again.

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Thank fook we can't be drawn against the mighty, passionate Welsh.

I'm confident we can win it provided we don't come up against a team as strong as Iceland.


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It seems pointless hoping for a "good" draw with England as recent evidence suggests it makes absolutely no difference.

Looking at the current England team and assuming Southgate doesn't pick Joe Hart in goal there is absolutely no reason why they shouldn't have a decent world cup. England can always seem to find a way, though!

When is the actual first ball going to be drawn? The programme appears to start at 3pm but the show goes on till 4:30pm!


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Joe Harts performance on Wednesday has to be the final nail in his international coffin.

He's pretty much making at least 1 mistake every week but wednesday was even worse, came rushing out for the first everton goal and gave away a daft penalty, timing all off. Rooneys 3 goal - if you come out that far n leave your goal exposed, you have to clear it out the ground or so far down the pitch your not in danger - he did neither.

Pickford looks assured confident n everything harts not.

Guaranteed southgates gunna start with hart.

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I think Southgate has already indicated he's capable of being quite ruthless if he has to. The way he decided Smalling wasn't required anymore was very direct for an England manager and in the case of Hart it's debatable whether this even counts as being ruthless given the poor bloke is simply waiting to be put out of his misery. I'm hopeful he'll pick Pickford ahead of Hart.

Whilst ultimately he will be judged on what happens in the final tournament itself I think Southgate has been quietly impressive so far as England manager. I fully appreciate however that you could, with the exception of Taylor, McClaren and possibly Keegan, arguably say that about any England manager in the last 30 years if you're just going on qualifying results and friendlies.


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Then plane home. :angelic-whiteflying: :auto-ambulance:

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If Hart keeps up this current form then he shouldn't be anywhere near the squad, he is being picked on his past form and probably because previous managers have always called him up.

Although Everton have been shite this season, Pickford should get the nod ahead of Hart. Even Fraser Forster is worth a shout.

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Dimi? Did he marry a lass from Hartlepool ? Surely that qualifies him?

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Sky sports has a pick your World Cup squad thingy on its app and having a look at the centre mids it's so uninspiring, we aren't even close to competing with the big sides and if Southgate can get us to the quarters he'll have done a fantastic job.

For what it's worth my keepers would be Butland, Pickford and Heaton


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I feel a lot more optimistic about the midfield slots now than i did 2-3 months ago.

It's not at the level required to win the tournament but the likes of winks and loftus cheek have showed potential to be brave on the ball and have done more in 2-3 games than henderson has done in 4-5 years.

I'd put henderson in the same bracket as joe hart for being nowhere near good enough to play.

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Rooney's on fire....


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Belgium
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FCUK!

Next year we're going to be embarrassed by Panama! I can't even name one of their players from history never mind a current one!


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If this is true, hats off to Panama! Belguim will melt our defence like chocolate, and Tunisia will be busier, and have fez amount of possession!

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Hash Tag the Group of death, probably.

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Canny group that.

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Belgium have the best player in the Premiership in De Bruyne, a player not too far behind him in Hazard, a keeper who is probably in the top 3 keepers in the Premiership as well as a selection of the best defenders. It's baffling how they consistently perform so poorly and surely can't continue for another tournament.

I've not much to say about the other two teams.


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They will peak soon, bit of a team of individuals at the moment but if they click they can do some damange.

Thankfully we have them last game so ideally we are both qualified by then n it'll just be a big bore fest n we can rest players they can n we can just have a game of heads n volleys.

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So who do youse fancy losing on penalties to in the quarters?


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That could barely have been improved had England simply said who they wanted.

Heart says it'll be two surging 3-0 victories over Tunisia and Panama followed by an entertaining 1-1 with Belgium seeing England hurtle into the second round as group winners on goal difference.

Head then steams in to spoil the fun. Two utterly turgid draws followed by a spirited but ultimately inept 2-1 defeat to Belgium.


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Italy v Holland final for me.

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England’s group features an unprincipled tax haven, a country notorious for paedophilia, and a place where women are denied basic human rights, playing against Tunisia, Panama and Belgium.

Credit Frankie Boyle on Facebook not me :laugh:


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Does John Darwin play centre half for Panama


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dykey wrote:
Does John Darwin play centre half for Panama

Canoe stop with the daft jokes.


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oar im sorry but i kayak do that


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dykey wrote:
Does John Darwin play centre half for Panama


If I'm not mistaken I think he plays in the hole.

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dykey wrote:
Does John Darwin play centre half for Panama


He drifts in and out ...


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