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 Post subject: Lewis Hamilton
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Greedy fupper. Buys a £16m jet in the IOM to avoid paying £3m tax on it...he must be on the bones of his arse.

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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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I think he’s an arrogant twat, good at driving a car fast granted, but I don’t quite get all the excitement about this tax carry on.

If I was loaded I’d employ someone to look after my money, it’s in that persons interests to maximise every pound they are just doing what they are paid for. If that person said to me ‘here’s a legal way to avoid paying three million pounds in tax’ I would say yes without a second thought, seriously who wouldn’t!?


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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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Wraps himself in the flag at the end of his winning races but exactly how much tax does he pay and where does he live?

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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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I think he’s an arrogant twat, good at driving a car fast granted, but I don’t quite get all the excitement about this tax carry on.

If I was loaded I’d employ someone to look after my money, it’s in that persons interests to maximise every pound they are just doing what they are paid for. If that person said to me ‘here’s a legal way to avoid paying three million pounds in tax’ I would say yes without a second thought, seriously who wouldn’t!?


Me ! would rather than tax went to help others less fortunate than myself. I would still be minted and happy.

What the fook is it with these greedy bas*ards , needing so much money to live on?

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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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Well the story is about him spending sixteen million pounds on a private jet so he doesn't strike as someone who's greedy with his money, I've never seen him near the whoopsies or deliberately denting tins of beans in Asda. People who have this much wealth I doubt put a transaction like this through the books themselves, and I imagine he's does need so much money to sustain that type of lifestyle. I'm also fairly sure someone of his profile is involved in charity and does contribute to those less fortunate. Again that will more down to his 'team' than him than him though.

They have people controlling their finances who know the best way to maximise and spend the money they earn, as long as that's within the law of the land then I really don't see the problem. Should a footballer who plays abroad and doesn't pay taxes in his home country not be selected for his national team? He's still British and that is still who he represents driving his car tediously around a track. I reckon if Lionel Messi was English he'd be hated here, we have a strange outlook on people who are driven, ambitious and successful. We'd rather back less of a winner as a nation.

I still think he's a c unt by the way which backs up my last point completely :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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MadJohn wrote:
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If I was loaded I’d employ someone to look after my money, it’s in that persons interests to maximise every pound they are just doing what they are paid for. If that person said to me ‘here’s a legal way to avoid paying three million pounds in tax’ I would say yes without a second thought, seriously who wouldn’t!?

I suspect that you're not in the minority. That's not a comforting thought.


I'm just being realistic, we aren't and are never going to be in that position of wealth. In most cases with the bubble people are wrapped in I doubt that they even know this sort of thing is going they have that many people running their affairs. People have always used tax havens and the like, it just seems switched on to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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Well the story is about him spending sixteen million pounds on a private jet so he doesn't strike as someone who's greedy with his money, I've never seen him near the whoopsies or deliberately denting tins of beans in Asda. People who have this much wealth I doubt put a transaction like this through the books themselves, and I imagine he's does need so much money to sustain that type of lifestyle. I'm also fairly sure someone of his profile is involved in charity and does contribute to those less fortunate. Again that will more down to his 'team' than him than him though.

They have people controlling their finances who know the best way to maximise and spend the money they earn, as long as that's within the law of the land then I really don't see the problem. Should a footballer who plays abroad and doesn't pay taxes in his home country not be selected for his national team? He's still British and that is still who he represents driving his car tediously around a track. I reckon if Lionel Messi was English he'd be hated here, we have a strange outlook on people who are driven, ambitious and successful. We'd rather back less of a winner as a nation.

I still think he's a c unt by the way which backs up my last point completely :laugh:



So in a nutshell , you're defending this greed. Its thanks to millions like you, that the filthy rich get away with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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No I'm not defending it at all, I don't set the laws or have anything to do with the inland revenue but if someone is operating within the law then they are just switched on financially or should I say have people around them who are, and I don't blame them for that.

To blame me or anyone who holds that view for this situation is beyond absurd as it's the clearly the system that needs looking at, not the people playing it.


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MadJohn wrote:
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I'm just being realistic, we aren't and are never going to be in that position of wealth. In most cases with the bubble people are wrapped in I doubt that they even know this sort of thing is going they have that many people running their affairs. People have always used tax havens and the like, it just seems switched on to me.

Ok, so we are more or less diametrically opposed on this. The very idea of a tax haven is anathema to me. But I'm sure many would agree with you.


I wouldn't say totally opposite, I do think it is all a bit grubby and just because it's illegal it's does make it right morally, I can just understand why it happens. I'd much rather see the money in the UK's economy but if a system can be played people will always find a way to do it. In an ideal World offshore accounts in the British Virgin Islands wouldn't exist, I'm sure you could never support an organisation who dealt in such practises :wink: :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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Hes been resident in Switzerland for the last ten years for tax purposes so he's as British as a Swiss Army Knife!..'Getting any tax back off him must be a bonus for the HMRC... I'm sure the revenue would see greater returns by chasing these rather than "benefit cheats"

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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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Chasing him for what though?

Living abroad?

Going over there stealing our jobs?

Taking away morality he's not doing anything wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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Chasing him for what though?

Living abroad?

Going over there stealing our jobs?

Taking away morality he's not doing anything wrong.
Oh I forget you're in Dubai evading tax.., ;)...or should I say taking advantage of a more liberal tax system...

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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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Yes he is and so are the countries and principalities who aid and abet tax evasion. Choosing to invest with companies who specialise in staying a step ahead of the ever evolving tax laws designed to catch up with the super rich is the responsibility of the people who do it.

The international laws on corruption nowadays put the emphasis on companies and individuals to keep proper records of how much they spend and what they spend it on. Saying you didn't know somebody was using your cash for bribes etc isn't a defence unless you can prove that they deceived you. Should be the same for tax cheats. Hamilton is entitled to live where he likes but offshore investment and spending to avoid tax isn't doing nothing wrong even if the law hasn't closed every loophole yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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offshorepoolie wrote:
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Chasing him for what though?

Living abroad?

Going over there stealing our jobs?

Taking away morality he's not doing anything wrong.
Oh I forget you're in Dubai evading tax.., ;)...or should I say taking advantage of a more liberal tax system...

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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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I don't agree that Hamilton knew nothing about the deal. He was on board the plane when it landed in the IoM at 6 in the morning so they could reclaim the VAT. He must have asked wtf are we landing here. We need a 'Rage against the machine' type candidate for the SPOTY vote. Someone who does their sport for the glory and not the money.

What appalls me is that all these tax havens are British and our government are once again complicit in these tax avoidance schemes.

Hopefully the BBC will pull the plug on Mrs Brown's Tax Avoiders.

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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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Doha actually, I can't really correct any of the rest though :wink: :laugh:

I still pay my stamp at home though, I bet Lewis does as well he wouldn't want to miss out on his state pension.


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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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"Well the story is about him spending sixteen million pounds on a private jet so he doesn't strike as someone who's greedy with his money"

Can't believe you said that line PJ, ......if I pop in the 'Co-op' and buy 6 packets of Club biscuits because I'm not tight with my money but then tell the lass on the till that I don't want to pay the tax on them I'm damn sure I know what she'd say to me, and it's not even her who'd gain from it.

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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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An example of how radged our system is, if I lived here until I was 65 and had payed my National Insurance. I'd get all the benefits a pensioner in the UK would payed into my bank account every month. Including winter fuel allowance. I wouldn't have lived in the UK for 30 years and it's 40 degrees here.


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I don't agree that Hamilton knew nothing about the deal. He was on board the plane when it landed in the IoM at 6 in the morning so they could reclaim the VAT. He must have asked wtf are we landing here. We need a 'Rage against the machine' type candidate for the SPOTY vote. Someone who does their sport for the glory and not the money.

What appalls me is that all these tax havens are British and our government are once again complicit in these tax avoidance schemes.

Hopefully the BBC will pull the plug on Mrs Brown's Tax Avoiders.


Not only that but apparently the people involved in the deal at the IOM were working out of hours so what incentive did they get from having to 'come in early'?, .....anything for a celeb'.

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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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Hopefully the BBC will pull the plug on Mrs Brown's Tax Avoiders.


I would purely because it's absolute diabolical shite.


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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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An example of how radged our system is, if I lived here until I was 65 and had payed my National Insurance. I'd get all the benefits a pensioner in the UK would payed into my bank account every month. Including winter fuel allowance. I wouldn't have lived in the UK for 30 years and it's 40 degrees here.


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You know that I know that I said ‘if’ it was a deliberately hypothetical scenario.

I find into hilarious that all of these pensioners some career criminals on the Costa Del Sol all get their winter fuel allowance. I bet Hamilton gets it and puts it in his racing car.


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You know that I know that I said ‘if’ it was a deliberately hypothetical scenario.


Yes I did know that PJ, I was having a little joke.


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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:51 am 
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As I said about a decade ago he is a C U N T of the highest order. Wraps himself in the Union Jack but got out of the country at the very first opportunity, so he didn't have to pay any tax which could go into spending on schools, hospitals etc .

He already has more money than anyone could ever wish to have, but refuses to give anything back to the country he was raised in.

They should stop these fuckers from calling themselves British or from using the Union Jack.


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Car racing in general is a bit for c u n t s though isn’t it?

All of the drivers come across like that and a lot of people who watch it. I’m picturing a wealthy middle aged couple going to Silverstone wearing matching racing jackets.


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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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Well the story is about him spending sixteen million pounds on a private jet so he doesn't strike as someone who's greedy with his money


If I didn't laugh at this, I'd spend the rest of the week crying

It's obvious to point out that the tax on that jet alone would help significantly with, oh, I don't know, more mental health beds maybe which there are practically none of the minute. Or a nice properly functioning hospital for a town with roughly 100,000 residents

There are 2 reasons why I seldom post on here and even look on here less and less. One is the purile stuff posted by Monkeybutt on a daily basis and the other is wind-up shit like this.

Hamilton can piss off with Phil Collins, Gary Barlow and the Queen.

I genuinely hope you're on the wind-up mate

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It was flippant remark yes.

They could share Lewis’s private jet to piss off in?

I just don’t know why people get so angry about stuff that has always happened and they can do nothing about. He’s a c unt I agree completely, I’m with everyone on that.


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Also agreed that he’s a c u n t, but not his fault that he is paid as much as he is. If I was offered a crazy money contract and had ways and loopholes to protect and maximise my money I sure as hell would take advantage of them.


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It was flippant remark yes.

They could share Lewis’s private jet to piss off in


Fair do's :grin:

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Also agreed that he’s a c u n t, but not his fault that he is paid as much as he is. If I was offered a crazy money contract and had ways and loopholes to protect and maximise my money I sure as hell would take advantage of them.


It's not my fault I'm paid as much as I am but I pay tax. The argument doesn't wash

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Also agreed that he’s a c u n t, but not his fault that he is paid as much as he is. If I was offered a crazy money contract and had ways and loopholes to protect and maximise my money I sure as hell would take advantage of them.


Sorry but I differ there, it's all about principles, if I was as lucky enough as him to be doing a job I really enjoy and getting paid shedloads for it, I'd be happy to stump up my due's for the sake of my fellow citizens. Also I don't like the way he paints his fringe on and felt tips his moustache and sideburns, he also smells of ......Elderberries.

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Going over there stealing our jobs?


I was going to be the best F1 driver on the planet till that c u n t took my job. FFS


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At present the minimum annual tax that one can pay with the best avoidance/reduction schemes available is zero. Wayne Rooney almost achieves that. However the government could simply pass a law that says that the minimum tax liability is say N% of gross income. I would suggest a figure equal to the percentage tax paid by a PAYE worker earning the average or median wage/salary probably in the region of 18%.


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As I said about a decade ago he is a C U N T of the highest order. Wraps himself in the Union Jack but got out of the country at the very first opportunity, so he didn't have to pay any tax which could go into spending on schools, hospitals etc .

He already has more money than anyone could ever wish to have, but refuses to give anything back to the country he was raised in.

They should stop these fuckers from calling themselves British or from using the Union Jack.


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Car racing in general is a bit for c u n t s though isn’t it?

All of the drivers come across like that and a lot of people who watch it. I’m picturing a wealthy middle aged couple going to Silverstone wearing matching racing jackets.

Me and Mrs bus would never wear matching racing jackets I prefer to wear my pools jacket whilst sat watching the race


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It was flippant remark yes.

They could share Lewis’s private jet to piss off in?

I just don’t know why people get so angry about stuff that has always happened and they can do nothing about. He’s a c unt I agree completely, I’m with everyone on that.


I'm sure you're not one of Dibble's many aliases - well, almost sure, but...

That's very close to a Dibblesque 'Did I say that? I never said that" start a row then walk away from it type of cop out.

Hamilton is a grade one flag waving hypocrite. What's he gonna do with the £3 million VAT he saved, use it as a down payment on another private jet? Yacht maybe?


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so Lewis Hamilton now employs the recently retired leader of the red arrows (red 10) to be his personal pilot on 24 hour call.fair play to him if I had that kind of money I wouldnt be paying taxes if I could help it

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Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father wrote:
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It was flippant remark yes.

They could share Lewis’s private jet to piss off in?

I just don’t know why people get so angry about stuff that has always happened and they can do nothing about. He’s a c unt I agree completely, I’m with everyone on that.


I'm sure you're not one of Dibble's many aliases - well, almost sure, but...

That's very close to a Dibblesque 'Did I say that? I never said that" start a row then walk away from it type of cop out.

Hamilton is a grade one flag waving hypocrite. What's he gonna do with the £3 million VAT he saved, use it as a down payment on another private jet? Yacht maybe?


I just call that thrifty, he’s just got a morally bankrupt relative of Martin Lewis running the show for him.

I’ve also called him a c unt consistently throughout this thread.

Basically you are all getting excited about black man and a flag. You’re all infinitely more intelligent versions of Donald Trump.

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I would actually never behave like that so I was wrong to say that earlier in the thread and Horden and yourself were spot on. I would and will look after my family the best I can though in life and I’m still not angry about him, people are motivated in different ways he is obviously motivated significantly by money. Different strokes for different folks.


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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Hamilton
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A couple of people today have said the same thing to me... basically if they had anywhere near Hamilton's income and could afford fancy lawyers, they'd use any loophole possible to get out of paying tax without any hesitation. Seriously, is there a minimum income at which a selfish prick gene kicks in?



Fuck knows, isn't twenty million pound a year enough, what the fuck fuck fuckty fuck can't he buy? He can have everything his heart desires, so why the need to avoid paying his fair share?


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Forget about him and his pal Bono, it's the nignogs, poles and benefit scroungers and their ilk I think we should be bitching about, I mean, it's their fault tax revenues are down isn't it?


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Come on guys, for fucks sake, if you have enough money you can get away with anything, even murder for fucks sake.


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Going over there stealing our jobs?

I was going to be the best F1 driver on the planet till that c u n t took my job. FFS

And I was onto a sure thing with Nicole Scherzinger till he came and stuck his nose in.

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As I said about a decade ago he is a C U N T of the highest order. Wraps himself in the Union Jack but got out of the country at the very first opportunity, so he didn't have to pay any tax which could go into spending on schools, hospitals etc .

He already has more money than anyone could ever wish to have, but refuses to give anything back to the country he was raised in.

They should stop these fuckers from calling themselves British or from using the Union Jack.


Spot on Chip clappp My problem with each and everyone of these kunts is why are they all so foooking greedy when each one of them probably has enough money to do anything and never work again if you can call it work. Totally horrible bast*rds who want more and more and more. I really do believe money is the very root of all evil and once you pass a certain level you want more n more and do not give a flying foook about avoiding tax via taking money from the system the real workers pay into. :angry-screaming:

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I wonder if he flew his £1.2 million motorhome to IOM For the VAT refund on that as well!!!


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