And the last match is away to Tranmere.

Gateshead away on Boxing day and reverse fixture on New Years Day.

The FDE have clearly had an influence with that last fixture, weekend in Liverpool, adult dressy up and a promotion party

Guiseley away bank holiday monday should be a good day out

I'm in Australia be sat in the MCG wishing I was in Gateshead!

Is it just me that doesn't like a manager talking of potentially winning a league before it's even started?

Make a few games kick off at 5:30pm especially New Years Day.

Yeah it's brilliant coming out of the house at twilight in the depths of winter as the frosts starting to form to have your bollocks frozen off.
Why?

The Christmas period works well for me - four games without to much travel! I'll hopefully see more games in ten days than I have the last two years!

I can see the boxing day game being an early kick off and on TV.

When did we last play Gateshead competitively? Looking forward to having a derby game again if we can call it that.

Whoever did that fixture must be a Scouser- I'm sure Tranmere would have been over the moon with playing at the Vic last game of the season. Not!

Wonder which team Amond will be playing for?

every game will be like a derby, believe me.
every player at every club will want a pop at us.

I think the opposite to be honest espesially from a fans point of view even for this 'Derby' how many fans are Gateshead going to bring down 400/500?? They regularly struggle to get a thousand for home games so that would represent a large away following for them. Some of the away followings will be single figures. We have to try and generate our own atmosphere and get behind the team more than ever next season and make the Vic an intimidating place for these teams.

When I was in the ticket office the other day I asked about tickets for away games and they've been told the vast majority won't send any in advance for us to sell. They said we're going to try sort something out or there might be a few very chaotic away games with a lot of annoyed fans who can't get in.

Tranmere and other 'big' clubs have been in this division for years. It's not a new experience for opposition players, we'll just be another team with higher expectations.

Looking further into the fixtures the home ones are utterly shite from a fans point of view. Look at every single day that Saturday games will have to be rearranged for cup games we are at home meaning we will end up with loads of Tuesday home matches. Surely this should be more equal? Mind from a players point or view this is probably good especially if we are going well, less midweek away trips.

we,ll see.

agree with what you say PJ, Regarding fans.
but i never mentioned fans in my post, i was referring to the playing side.
people like yourself who travel to away games will have a great time.
apart from barrow away.

i watched lincoln play away at barrow towards the end of last season, and they (barrow)just
kicked them off the pitch, with very little protection from the ref.

I've heard there isn't even a decent artisan bakers in Barrow. Crazed thugs high on Warburton's additives.

Even from a players point view, yes games might be more physical and we have to be prepared for that but a lot of the away games again will see small home support and some poor pitches in ramshackle grounds. We've got to be up for every single game we're not going to be a novelty for a lot of these teams Two clubs come out of the League every season.

Looking at the fixtures and now hearing this it's been a sobering day, relegation has now fully hit home.

Something's just hit me...we're playing in a lower league than Matt Rhead!

He clearly doesn't care how his bread is made.

I'd normally say that if they have the same fans then it's the same club. But I admit that trying to find the original fans after 57 years is a bit of a challenge.

Fancied an away game to start with, but at least a home game should ensure we get off to a decent start , it should shouldn't it?. I had a few plans of my own with regard to the fixtures, but they haven't been kind to me. Maidenhead and Bromley on consecutive weeks in August, was hoping to do both, ideally wanted one either side of Christmas. Gateshead twice over the holiday period makes sense, but would of wanted Barrow away at the beginning or end of the season. Halifax on a Tuesday is a bit of a bummer, as is Guiseley on a Bank Holiday Monday, would of preferred a Saturday game. Maidstone away looks like it is a Good Friday game as well, which makes trains and hotels more expensive. Only really interested in visiting as many non league venues as possible, whilst giving the ex league clubs a swerve.

Looking forward to AFC Fylde away, impressive new stadium. Only has 3 sides of the ground in use, but 1 decent 'seated stand' then 2 small (ish) standing areas. 40 minutes away from where I live....SORTED.

Some of our supporters who like a good slurp before the game , are in for a surprise , some of these grounds are in the middle of nowhere , such as Fylde , Solihull , and Eastleigh. Three clubs have 3G pitches I believe, and a few games will be played in front of sub 1000 crowds, its going to be a wake up call.

You can not be serious, this was kept f**king quiet. Without fennel and raisin bread how can we take it seriously now?

Agreed, when I went AFC Fylde, it's on a 'business park' type of set up, don't recall seeing any pub nearby !!

There may be a bakery.

Their pitch looks a bit like Newports looker.

That's the Somme.

This thread is appalling.

Not one of you have thought about the reaction of this fixture news in POK household.

Shame on you all. This is more exciting than eurovision. They will be creaming their pants somewhere in Kent tonight.

Dover away and a booze cruise weekend to Calais not tickle your fancy then?

Not particularly excited by this fixture list but that's because I knew it a couple of weeks ago.

I am looking forward to Chester away though, living in the north west. It's also on my wife's birthday- she's in for a treat!

The oldest continually used football ground in the world apparently. Maidenhead, Solihull and Boreham Wood will be heaven for groundhopping types. The ground/day out that appeals to me more than any other is Bromley. A proper old Isthmian league ground that unlike some of their rival clubs, has managed to survive property development.. A high street with plenty of pubs and relatively easy to get to from London. Also record attendance was v Nigeria, not many clubs can say that. One of the ground with a 3G pitch though.

http://www.footballgroundguide.com/leag ... expand=all

Won't any potential fixture congestion come into effect if we do well in the fa trophy?


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That can't be true as we played Gateshead at home in the League on my birthday 18 Jan 1964.

Still searching for a copy of the programme for my collection.

No im talking bollox again!

No wonder I couldn't find a copy of the programme!

Yes I touched on it earlier in the thread, if we're doing well I'd be playing the kids in the Trophy.

Yeah, who wants to win a trophy at Wembley , not us. Knowing Pools, they will play kids even if they are not doing well, to save the players for a late play off push. I hate this attitude , a club that has won fook all in its entire existence , should surely want to win everything and anything , and lets face it , good teams do tend to field their strongest teams and win things, there is no real evidence that fielding weakened sides actually achieves anything other than usually winning nothing.

I've shit out massively for the first game of the season and I'm gutted....need some bunker help...

I agreed to go with the missus to south of London to collect my daughter from some dance thing, hotel booked and all that shit for the night before or after, not sure....I agreed to it because I thought the season started the week after.....I then didn't backtrack sooner because I was banking on us being away to one of the (FUCKING LOADS OF) clubs in the London area.

Anyway, couldn't have turned out much worse.

How do I get out of this without getting divorced?

Or do I just take the divorce? Plenty more fish in the sea and all that.

Our priority has to be League, we have been a Football League club for 96 years for the future of our club it's imperitive that this stay is as short as possible. When was the last time the team who won automatic promotion also won the Trophy? The games directly clash with scheduled League games and all of our Saturday home games. If we're top or in with a sniff around Christmas I would make eleven changes as it's meaningless. York won it last year and they're now in the Conference North. The FA Trophy Final doesn't even register anywhere apart from the two teams involved, it's not even on TV, they put four teams fans in the same stadium for it now as well. If we get to the later stages then yes we want to win it buts in no way our main priority.

Have a look at previous winners and some of the previous finals.

Nut up and tell her the truth, you fucked up, your sorry and buy her something, done.

Lots of teams have won it and went up or finished top of the league in the days before promotion from the conference. I was talking about football in general , not just our league in relation to fielding weakened teams. I could give you lots of examples of the same 11 players playing nearly a full season and getting promoted and reaching the quarter finals of a cup , winning is addictive, but that's not my point. The point is a club like ours in this league should be able to compete for everything. I believe the right attitude is to have players who want to play and win every game, not be rested ,and a manager who wants to win everything. We have rested players over the last 7 seasons in so called meaningless games like FA cup and JP trophy and look where it got us? nowhere !. If you pick and choose your games you end up with nothing, possibly clubs like Man U, Chelsea, Barcelona can do this but not the likes of us, you need to be winning nigh on every game you play or you will end up in mid table treading water.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_F ... als#Finals

I notice Colchester - York - Macclesfield - Kidderminster- Cambridge - Wycombe managed to make a good fist of either winning both or at least coming close.

A team hasn't won automatic promotion and the FA Trophy since Wycombe in 1993 when the League was still mainly part time. That is relevant to us, my comments were based on that.

The matches directly clash with fixtures at the back end of the season, it's fairly clear why if you're doing well it's not a priority. I get your views but they are outdated the game is totally different in the modern era.

Here's a decent balanced article from last season;

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/planetpr ... lemma/amp/

PJ ,you surprise me ! that is a complete load of tosh and you know it. Winning games breeds confidence and once on a roll it is hard to stop a team winning, that is why those teams I mentioned managed to either get promoted either automatically or via play off and win or get beat in the trophy final. Now no doubt you will say if a team just missed out that is because they never fielded a weakened team and therefore their players were tired, whereas I would say they just missed out because they never fielded weakened teams, and if they had they may never of even finished second or got to the final Also even if they just missed out, it sets them up for the following season, confidence and all that.

In terms of the psychology of winning , it is the same now in 2017 as it was in 1975 and will be the same in 2035. All this outdated and modern era stuff is bollocks.