Anyone seen if or can upload it on here?

To me 'shan' means unfair or out of order. As in 'that's Shan that' not sure when it's meaning changed.

I also wasn't too impressed with Marks description of a parmo. Didn't sell it very well imo.

Looks like Munn is a bit of a character like.

Must admit I always thought dut and half lot were used all over the country.

Parmos a Boro thing. Should of had Doyle or ding instead

Thought ellish might have been in there. And no, before you yakkers start, it's completely different to hellish.

Proper funny video!
I used 'spelk' many years ago when I started uni in Liverpool. Everyone looked at me blankly and I genuinely thought they had all lost their minds!!

Haha I did down here to some new friends we have. Same thing till I explained, apparently it's splinter

Jack Munns' hairband is a bit shan like.

Me dad was a bit of a cunning linguist, had loads of theories about dialect words.

He reckoned shan came from the same root as the German 'schaden' which means shameful. As in schadenfreude (shameful joy).

He used to think doyle referred to a stupid Irish person, and the use of it got overextended, but I reckon it has the same origins as 'dolt'. There's a Rabbie Burns poem which refers to someone being 'doylt' which in the context means stupified.

Spelk is definitely a Norse word, as is bairn. There's probably loads of others that don't instantly spring to mind.

There used to be a great website called Tees Speak, which was set up by an academic. Can't find it now, but there was loads of explanations on there.

One of the biggest revelations it provided to me was that chew should actually be spelt 'tew', as it derives from a Norse word 'tewain' or something similar, which means to aggravate.

Doyle comes from Doylem which came from Goylem, Yiddish term.

I've heard Australians say it, but no one else outside the north east.

Think how I feel since I've been called Spelk and had to try and explain it in different countries!
It started when I was a glass collector in 5th avenue, one of the barmaids was originally called stick because she was so thin, when I started one of the others said I was thinner than her so I must be a Spelk, it stuck.
Became a dj in 5th, worked just about everywhere in Hartlepool bars/clubs and that was the name. Travelled to Kazakhstan and Ibiza dj'ing and still known as Spelk but had to explain why!
I ended up with just repeating the line of, it's basically a splinter and I have a chest like a toast rack and the muscle tone of any elastic band!

Interesting stuff mate, a good read. I remember the Tees Speak website well.

I remember reading before that bairn was a Frisian word (modern-day Netherlands/Germany), although parts of it did use to be in Denmark. Also, now living abroad, I have made plenty of Scandinavian pals over the last few years. Somehow we got talking about childhoods and I mentioned growing up and playing around Fens beck. Beck (or however you spell it in their language) is still the Danish/Norwegian word for a stream.

One word my nana used to say to me when I talked back was, 'Stop being impitent!' I'd presume it came from the word impudent perhaps?

The north east is the last bastion of not saying splinter but there used to be loads of regional alternatives as recently as the '50s.

Similarly I always thought splinter was an Americanism so I got a strange look went I used the word spelk at uni. Mind, where I currently live, people call woodlice 'cheesybobs' and apparently that's normal but spelk, shan, rarf etc is weird. Bloody southerners...

NO IDEA

What about acky as in filthy. Or moy as in face. Lol

Chuddy, Croggie, Ebs.

I've never heard the word scem or skem since I was a kid back in the sixties. Ill keep you guessing.

Skemmy = feral pigeon
Stinker = Starling

Crossbar -> croggy and chewing gum -> chuddy I can understand, but what the bejezus are ebs?

On another subject, does anybody anywhere outside of certain streets in Hartlepool call fleas lops?

Well thats what you get for blowing your money on crack cocaine... 'cheesy bobs' The Dolyes.

No ebs is the important one Monty. If you've got sweets or crisps just say that and ebs has no power.

ebs means you're staking a claim and the person who has it has to give you some. So ebs on that chuddy would mean there is now a legally binding contract for them to give you a bit of chuddy.

Similar to bags-eye or I had, although those can be applied to any situation where you're staking a claim.

Sweets? What the hell are they? Is that a posh Toulousain word for kets?

You didn't know what ebs was so I was keeping it strictly Queen's English.

And on lops - I've always said 'fit as a lop' because my gran did but I'd call a flea a flea.

In the 'Pool' do they call turnips 'snaggers' as in the Collieries?, Mackem's call them 'narkies'.

was brought up as always an acky kid with a spelk in his thumb but was never sent to the chippy for a half lot. seems something that arrived after we left hartlepool years ago.

Never heard ebs before, like. It was always 'dibs' in that scenario. 'dibs on that chuddy'

The problem is "dibs" is not even specifically English, never mind Hartlepudlian.

Webster's dictionary definition of dibs

1 (slang): money especially in small amounts
2: claim, rights. e.g., I have dibs on that piece of cake
First Known Use: 1812

Must have been during the Battle for Moscow.

Stop getting ebs wrong!

Ebs relates exclusively to something someone has that you want a bit of, be it food, drink, a cigarette, anything like that. That's it.

The others don't relate.

Ebs on that

Yloop is correct, and is right to be so annoyed.


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Half Lots are a product of Thatcher, when ordinary working class folk ceased to be able to afford a Full Lot, AKA Fish & Chips

I used to call Addy Ebby-Nelson or whatever he was called - 'Ebs'

hth

Half lots are way better value. I buy two, but proportionally you get shitloads more.

a Half lot always fill me tbh.

Two chicken legs open and ask them to put a tail end in.

Because there were never any poor people in the North-East before 1980?

Agree with the sentiment but not your sense of history.

most people in the northe ast were poor pre 1980.

But they could all afford fish and chips.

Now most are still poor but cant afford fish and chips.

Someone is to blame for that.

Verryl?

Only between the hours of 11.45am to 12.30pm on the third Tuesday of every month that has an R in it.

Always ebbs back in the day, or if picked off the flags, gods food.