I could

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUVUC1NHftY

Whatever happens on Thursday nobody will be able to deny it's been JC's election campaign - on the stump or in the studio he's wiped the floor with May and everybody else.

Yeah, Win or lose the genie is out of the bottle. Young people are politicised and that can only mean victory if not this time, in the near future

Me and Our Lass said this last night. The good stuff has probably come too late this time, but it's certainly opened a few eyes and can only be better news for the future.

I've never thought Corbyn could win, but my one hope is that he moves what's possible in political discourse a bit more to the left, after New Labour shifted it to the right. It seems like that's a possibility.

Says it all really Head says it's May's to lose heart hopes she does.. I reckon they'll be out on their arse next time. At least the youngsters are energised and engaged in politics again.

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Exactly.
We've had almost forty years of right wing (or at best centre right under New Labour) Thatcherite policies. It's left us individually better off but communally poorer, with a gulf between the top and the bottom that gets bigger every year. I thought Corbyn was incapable of appealing to anyone but the converted, but throughout the campaign he's done far better than any of the others. It won't stop May unfortunately, but it has breathed a bit of life into, what had looked like, a Labour corpse.

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Those lyrics are wrong. The opening line is "Punk Rock, Power Pop!"

I know this as it's my favourite Jam single..(because it's fuck all to do with Weller!)

I keep thinking about when Blair got in. The polls suggested that he might just squeeze through but he got a landslide. Having lost all the Scottish seats I don't think Labour can repeat a win on that scale but they've got the momentum, the young are looking far more likely to turn out than they have for decades and the weather forecast is good. Add in that May is looking like a toxic brand and any public appearance seems to cost her votes and a hung parliament looks like a real possibility. That would be a huge defeat for May and the Tories and the bitter feuding that would follow could leave them knackered for years.

Nothings certain at this stage but when she called this election it was meant to be a coronation procession for Queen Theresa and now she's clinging on by her finger tips. Enjoying it!

There are only two kind of people who vote Conservative. The rich and the misinformed. If you don't know which one you are, check your bank balance.

Noticed the propaganda machines going into overdrive with todays papers. Billionaires telling the masses what to do so they can keep making money.

This exactly.

I posted on here months ago that lanour would get nowhere with Corbin in charge but he has more than won me over.

To the point that I have contemplated joining the Labour Party.

I would never have considered that under Tory wannabe tony blair

One last push ! to get the votes that will return Labour to power. Where are Bliar, Kinnock, Brown, Mandelson and Hilary Benn when you need them ?. They were quite happy to be wheeled out before the Scottish Independence and EU Referendum, but clearly got better things to do this time.

I'm sure they would rather the Tories win than The Real Labour Party. They hate the left more than the tories. They nearly destroyed The Labour Party that lot. To think we could of been going into tomorrow with Owen Smith as leader, FFS!

Arseholes !!!!

I see dianne Abbott has been announced as seriously ill.

She looked like she had had a breakdown on that interview the other day.

Some people will be regretting their recent comments if true.

I like Dianne Abbott, but she seems to be the figure the Hyenas have decided to target. Spoke to 3 old blokes in Blackhall yesterday and they all mentioned her in a negative manner, which just goes to show you how word gets around, by those who indulge in tittle tattle and reading The Sun.

Then amazingly someone like Boris Johnson ,who is an absolute goon of the highest order, gets away with murder, FFS! some even think he is an intelligent man, who could lead the Tory party, you couldn't make it up, its outrageous.

I hope Diane Abbott gets well soon , but in terms of the party, I think it maybe time for her to take a step back from the frontline. Once the media have you in their targets, they won't leave you alone, and would continue to target her, even when Labour were in power. I believe a lot of people are inherently racist in this country, and I often wonder how much of the attacks on her are to do with the colour of her skin.

I am in London now and just overheard a discussion with some senior staff. All of them agreeing that it would be a disaster for them, and their money, if Corbyn got in, as he is an idiot, and will destroy the ecomony.

I thought these people were intelligent. It seems not.

I do love the tory response to Corbyn putting up corporation tax.

Basically, if they do that, big corportaions will fiddle their tax to avoid paying it.

But rather than blaming their greed, and prosecuting them, the tories dig at Corbyn.

Thats OK then, is too difficult to prosecute big corporations, so we wont bother.

Lets go further, lets not proecuting terroriss for murder. It costs a lot you know.

Much easier to screw average folk, threaten them with jail when their taxes dont add up, and lets screw motorists doing 33 in a 30. Infact lets jail them and say the crime figures are solved.

You have to love tory principles.

Cloud cuckoo land online.

I've tried to convince them previously Mr Nelly but honestly, you can't talk to people who live in a bubble.

I'm sorry but there is some bullshit on here mind. Dianne Abbott may be ill in some way, however having seen many of her interviews I found her utterly incompetent and not fit for the potential office she was standing for. I don't read any of the newspapers and am not voting Tory. To suggest that people who perceived her as incompetent are doing so because she is black, or because they are brainwashed Tory lapdogs is an insult to the intelligence.

I also find Boris Johnson to be a disgraceful choice as foreign secretary for a whole number of reasons, I find it a dosgrace he is in government and represents our country, it's called making my mind up and judging people as I perceive them rather than deciding before they open their mouths based on which colour rosette they are wearing. This place generally is so bloody one eyed and biased it's unreal.

I desperately hope the Tories lose this election but it's also not because I am inspired by labour or the credibility of the candidates they have on offer. The other problem and someone mentioned this the other day is that Corbyn isn't just taxing the super rich, the people you are moaining about in London on £70k plus will be not much better off paying for crazy mortgages than people earning a lot less in places like the North East that has been shat on for donkeys years by multiple governments.

It's time for the Tories to go I agree, but in honesty I'm not sure some sort of socialist utopia is around the corner either. I said this the other day, I find the Tories and some of the dyed in the wool arguments on here as bad as each other. He's evil because he wears a blue rosette so he must eat babies or she wants to steal all your money to give to homeless Syrians because she wears a red rosette.

Quite frankly I find the quality of all the parties and politicians in general right now utterly piss poor.

That's about the sum of it.

No doubt about it May is bricking it, so much so , that in the last week, she has finally got her ar*e into gear and started something resembling campaigning, she thought it would be a walk in the park. For the reason Chip has outlined above, they will probably sneak it, but the damage has been done, and far from united the UK , on Friday we will find we are more divided than ever, with the polls exposing the rift between the age groups, haves and have not's , and the regions. May's position will be untenable, her election campaign has been a disaster, no one could seriously trust her to negotiate on Brexit.

It is no coincidence that the usual Tory supporters on here ( apart from a bit of sarcasm from Mr I , seems to be a Tory trait that ) have not contributed to this thread, that has been running for a couple of weeks now, the reason being they have nothing to defend. Corbyn and the Labour manifesto have exposed the tories for what they are, the party of rich and powerful, for the few not the many. The media may of saved the day for them this time, they are relying on the ignorance of the British working class to see them over the line , how desperate. I really hope I'm proved wrong.

Its not so much about a Socialist Utopia if Labour wins, its more to do with it being a Capitalist Dystopia if they lose.

We already have a capitalist dystopia it will just continue

True, for many its just about bearable now though, though for a few life is a living hell. I fear in time though, it will be bearable for a few and a living hell for many.

I haven't contributed because there are lots of like minded people convincing each other that Comrade Corbyn has a chance.

I'll be back on Friday when he has been utterly humiliated and Theresa has a huge majority. I can actually envisage Labour coming third to the SNP. To have a completely irrelevant opposition is not healthy but that's where we're heading.

I await a credible leader of Labour. Hilary Benn would be my choice, I could actually vote for him but the sooner we get rid of this terrorist hugging Marxist the better.

Being totally serious here I have no idea which one is the leader of Conservatives or Labour out of the 2 of them.

Are the Lib dems no longer a factor?

Bloody hell Mr Haircut. For you that post was quite hysterical.

Dont think anyone on here thinks Labour will win, or even get close.

Most just hope that theresa May Loses credibility.

And if she doesnt it just shows the mentality of the majority. She is fucking hopeless, has a mouth like she is having a stroke, is horrible, unstable, and isnt wanted by the tory hierachy.

She will be eaten alive by the EU.

And then her Party will get the knives out ..look what they done to MrI's Heroine. .

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Bloody hell Mr Haircut. For you that post was quite hysterical. [/quote]

Ha ha well I have my moments occasionally

May doesn't speak well but I believe she thinks well.

She will be eaten alive by the EU.

And you would want comrade corbyn says it all really you do get some laughs on here some times

yes I want my comrade to rule. Better that than a dictatorship.

yesterday the BBC website suggested that UKIP's best chance of gaining a seat could be Hartlepool.

It makes you so proud doesnt it?

Naw, without Farage they're a busted flush.

That's the problem Mr I, Hilary Benn isn't Labour in my eyes, the fact you, a dyed in the wool tory finds him credible says everything about Benn. The problem we have in Labour, win or lose, is how to deal with these watered down tories that Blair brought into the party. Had these traitors backed Corbyn and had the likes of Bliar , Brown, Mandelson and Kinnock had come out and supported Corbyn, then I am 100% certain Labour would win the election. If we don't I think the blame can be laid fairly and squarely at the door of the PLP and former leaders and their lackeys.

As Mr I says, Farage was UKIP, a hard act to follow, don't like the bloke, but he was charismatic, his replacement is a walking PR disaster. Was initially worried for Hartlepool , but I think the UKIP ship has sailed.

The more despicable shite I see on the front of absolutely vile rags like The Sun and The Daily Mail the better I want Corbyn to do tomorrow. I've just been reading this;

https://www.thecanary.co/2017/06/07/exc ... my-corbyn/

The problem is Ronnie that to do anything with principles you have to have power and in Britain power is never given to the far left or far right. Blair and Mandleson recognised this and worked for the centre. The result was three election wins.

The same goes for the Conservatives of the 90's, even Heath, Cameron and Wilson.

Elections are won and lost in middle Britain and that's where Corbyn loses. He is seen as a commie without a calculator. His numbers don't add up and he keeps spending the same taxes over and over again.

He cannot win.

I have always said the people of this country are basically Conservative at heart. Even in our so called 60s 70s hey day, people were always sceptical and never fully embraced Socialism, so to a point I agree. That is why they embraced Bliar ( deliberate spelling mistake ) and New Labour because he gave people conservatism with the guilt of having voting Conservative. The getting ridding of our mantra Clause IV was pivotal to this.

Bliar was right when he said " we are all middle class now " well partially right, he should of said " we all think we are middle class now " and that is the crux. that belief that you are sorted, too good to go back to the poverty you may have come from, though the reality is , that most of us are just a P45 away from deep sh*t.

When asked what was the greatest legacy of her reign , Thatcher said " The creation of New Labour " you get my drift, to get elected the party had to lurch sharply to the right, worked for a while but in the long term it has nearly ruined the party. Like you say, opposition is good but not too good an opposition like a Socialist Corbyn led party that is taking Labour back to its roots and doing the job it always should of done, helping the masses, not sucking up to big business , in direct contrast to New Labour , who were basically just a watered down tory party, that suited the real tories just fine.

My worry as I said earlier is that Labour will be so decimated that we won't have an effective opposition. For any party to have a monopoly on parliament is not a good thing.

Thats why its important for Labour heartlands to keep voting Labour.

Not have thick old fools saying things like

"i am voting tory this time cos of brexit, because thats the most important thing"

I cant see it coming to that. I think we will make a good fist of it, which is miraculous , when you look at where we came from and the party in fighting. Labour had a vast majority in 97 but failed to use it to good effect. I doubt the tories would pass up such an opportunity. That was the whole idea of May calling the election, huge mandate, kill of Labour for good, a one party state , and returning Britain back to the 1930s in terms of pay and conditions, human rights, employment laws, health and safety etc.

Whatever the result, for me Labour have scored a psychological victory already.

A lot of the older people voting tory for whatever reason , wont be around much longer . The young voters Corbyn has embraced will be.

[quote="Gerry Mandrake"]There are only two kind of people who vote Conservative. The rich and the misinformed.

This >

My worry is Scotland and the SNP. Labour lost a lot of seats last time to them. Labour has to re-win Scotland as well as the "Middle" and marginals. Corbyn has come out well, May has appeared badly in the run up. Personally I think May called the election as if it was a foregone conclusion, Labour looking weak and disjointed, Immigration and Brexit Euphoria.

I fear a Tory victory, but a big kick up the arse for May.

Headline in tomorrow's Sun

JEREMY CORBYN CAN'T SWIM

Jeremy Corbyn was seen yesterday having a beer with the Pope by the Thames. The Pope's hat blew off and landed in the river. Corbyn got up, walked across the water, grabbed the hat and returned it to a grateful pontiff.

Our so called Free Press is in absolute meltdown. Smears, lies, xenophobia, hatred, unbridled bias.

The Media have really showed their true colours in the lead up to this election

A disgrace to democracy

Why do people buy newspapers?

Infact do people still buy them?

No....they are called the SDP now!!!!

Fook knows ! See blokes where I live , up at crack of dawn to buy The Sun, Mirror or the Daily Fail. maybe its the page 3 thing. Then a few hours later they will be in Wetherspoons giving it large, Corbyn was once the Quartermaster General in the IRA, and Labour are going to water down the beer.