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 Post subject: Theresa May or May Not
PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 10:38 pm 
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Does anyone think May might be now thinking 'I might have dropped a bollock calling for a general election'?


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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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hopefully.

Her predecesor dropped one with brexit, so its not unusual.

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Given that she has aged considerably since doing so, and is looking more and more like Nora Batty every day, that is quite possible.

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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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Tories to win with at least a 50 seat majority which is within the range expected by CCHQ at the time the GE was called.


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you could be right, but its also right to suggest that would be disatrous for the working class, the NHS and god knows what else.

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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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Even if the tories win, Labour and Corbyn would of claimed a psychological victory, not the landslide the tories expected and surely the beginning of the end for May. In 5 years time Labour will walk it, as people realise they were taken for a ride, just not sure if the country can afford another 5 years of the thieving tory bas*ards

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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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The Orienteer wrote:
Tories to win with at least a 50 seat majority which is within the range expected by CCHQ at the time the GE was called.


Aye, cos the polls were spot on about the last general election result. And Brexit. And Trump.

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you could be right, but its also right to suggest that would be disatrous for the working class, the NHS and god knows what else.


I sometimes wonder where the hell you bought such a fucking effective wooden spoon. I don't reckon I've seen one that size in the Asda. :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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I have no idea what that means.

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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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I hope she's dropped a massive bollock just like dodgy Dave did with Brexit vote! I also share Aneurin Bevans view that -: No amount of cajolery and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my hearts deep burning hatred for the Tory party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.


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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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poolieinnottingham wrote:
The Orienteer wrote:
Tories to win with at least a 50 seat majority which is within the range expected by CCHQ at the time the GE was called.


Aye, cos the polls were spot on about the last general election result. And Brexit. And Trump.

Who mentioned polls?

But now you have, the polls have historically underestimated the right of centre vote.

It's this current air of hope that'll kill you :doh:


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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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win or lose she wanted a mandate, she wont get it, the brexit negotiations are fooked before they even start. Bye Bye May !! Bye Bye Britain !!

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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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horden wrote:
win or lose she wanted a mandate, she wont get it, the brexit negotiations are fooked before they even start. Bye Bye May !! Bye Bye Britain !!


She won't get a mandate? Why won't she?


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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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The Orienteer wrote:
poolieinnottingham wrote:
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Tories to win with at least a 50 seat majority which is within the range expected by CCHQ at the time the GE was called.


Aye, cos the polls were spot on about the last general election result. And Brexit. And Trump.

Who mentioned polls?

But now you have, the polls have historically underestimated the right of centre vote.

It's this current air of hope that'll kill you :doh:


Well what did CCHQ base their estimation on then? The same thin air figures that has resulted in borrowing rocketing?

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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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The Orienteer wrote:
Tories to win with at least a 50 seat majority which is within the range expected by CCHQ at the time the GE was called.


At the time the GE was called, that was then, this is now, people have now Sussed out May and her cronies. Game on!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 11:39 pm 
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Chip Fireball wrote:
It's just yet another Tory politician trying to further their own career without giving a fuck for what is best for the country.

Cameron called a Referendum he thought he couldn't lose, not in the interests of democracy but to cement his position of authority. Having lost, the fuckers in his own party that shafted him like Gove and Johnson then started backtracking on taking over and delivering the undeliverable shite they promised.

So in steps someone who has now called an election she said she wouldn't, to get a mandate she said she already had, to deliver something she said just 12 months ago was a terrible idea.

As if you couldn't make this crap up, she is now in danger of losing an election we were told could only result in one possible outcome- the destruction of the Labour Party. She is making Corbyn look competent despite, having 5 times more money to spend, and every mainstream media outlet lying on her behalf.

All the serious Tory broadsheets have said from the outset she needs a 100 seat majority for one reason and one reason alone. To get through Brexit without her own party imploding. She campaigned for Remain, she's talking tough but every man and his dog knows she will take a shit deal rather than no deal, and will need the 100 majority when her own Eurosceptic right wing turn on her.

She will not walk away from the Single Market, she's a Red Tory at heart, and she is doing in this campaign, what she did in the Brexit campaign, saying as little as fucking possible.

The worst possible outcome for the country is her getting back in with a majority of 50 or less. All that will have achieved is another 3 months wasted of the 2 years we got to complete the negotiations.

Are you really suggesting that Gove and Johnson shafted Cameron by following their principles?

And we are leaving membership of the Single Market. Accept it.


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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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RAY52 wrote:
The Orienteer wrote:
Tories to win with at least a 50 seat majority which is within the range expected by CCHQ at the time the GE was called.


At the time the GE was called, that was then, this is now, people have now Sussed out May and her cronies. Game on!!!

At the time the GE was called, the media were suggesting it would be way more than 50.


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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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poolieinnottingham wrote:
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poolieinnottingham wrote:

Aye, cos the polls were spot on about the last general election result. And Brexit. And Trump.

Who mentioned polls?

But now you have, the polls have historically underestimated the right of centre vote.

It's this current air of hope that'll kill you :doh:


Well what did CCHQ base their estimation on then? The same thin air figures that has resulted in borrowing rocketing?

As I've just said, the estimated majority based was a lot more at the time the GE was called. CCHQ never believed that.


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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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Chip Fireball wrote:
One thing I have learnt in this life is that it is a complete waste of time and energy trying to enter into any kind of meaningful debate with someone as thick as mince.

Johnson has no principles, he's a self obsessed prick in a job he got courtesy of the fact he was born into money. Gove probably has even fewer principles.

As for the statement about the Single Market, unless you are actually the Prime Minister, then frankly that is not for you to say. The Brexit vote was a year ago and we seem no further fucking forward, unless you count devaluing the pound as a success.

Anyway, you crack on Deej, or whatever fucking username you are posting under these days, you wont be getting any more bites off me.

You've not read any books on Brexit have you? I'd suggest you read All Out War by Tim Shipman but you won't like it because it doesn't fit with your narrative of Gove and Johnson.


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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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Chip Fireball wrote:
I haven't read any books on Brexit because I've got a fucking life.

You won, you got your fucking Brexit, just crack on and deliver it instead of boring the living shit out of everyone talking about it. You have had a mandate for 12 fucking months, and still you want more fucking elections, and more fucking mandates. Either deliver it or just fuck off.

I'm not in Government.


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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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thank fook for that

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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
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Orienteer mate. Point of protocol and etiquette here. If you don't stop quoting every single post on in full every time you answer I'm just going to delete your posts. Either learn to and/or be arsed to abridge and or just don't quote.

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 Post subject: Re: Theresa May or May Not
PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:07 pm 
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Orienteer mate. Point of protocol and etiquette here. If you don't stop quoting every single post on in full every time you answer I'm just going to delete your posts. Either learn to and/or be arsed to abridge and or just don't quote.


This!!!! :cool:


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