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 Post subject: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:38 pm 
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The fat lady hasn't quite sung yet but shes definitely warming up. But whats next?

I take no pleasure in the warnings that we've been giving for the best past of a year. We've taken no end of stick and slagging off but thats all done and past. There ain't no sugar daddy waiting to come in from the wings but there is a substantial number of fans who would happily give their all for Pools.

Gary Coxall, Pam Duxbury et al don't bring any financial muscle to the club, so why can't people who bleed blue and white do a better job? There were 4000 Pools fans there today and a fair number of the are intelligent qualified people. Amongst those who are hurting tonight are business people, lawyers, accountants, bankers, the odd TV personality and a huge number of people who would happily give of their time and effort to the club.

Today Newport climbed above Pools. There are those who will tell you that fan owned clubs can't succeed. Well Newport are one of those who prove otherwise. There are a lot of others too.

Hartlepool is an insular but very proud town. We proved a decade ago when the NSD CD was release that townsfolk will gather round something that promotes the town and is for town. We gave a couple of kids charities 5 grand each after that escapade but thats not the point. Its the reaction of the people of Hartlepool that mattered then and could matter now.

We need to chase Coxall, Jones, Goldberg and Duxbury out of the town. They have been disasterous for the club and I don't believe they're done yet. We need to gather together from all factions for the good of our club. Its time to put aside petty differences and fight for our future. We are the only chance HUFC has and thats got to be more important that back biting.

The Supporters Trust is the way forward. Not because of some personal pride but because its part of a national organisation that is recognised by the various authorities. Its FCA registered, operated in accordance with strict guidlines and importantly; acknowledged by the FA and football league. It doesn't belong to me or any other board member, its one member one vote and each member owns one share. It has major backing from Supporters Direct but without the backing of the fans its nothing.

We need to take back or club from the people who are destroying it.


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:48 pm 
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Well said and I would urge everyone to join up.


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:18 pm 
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A protest against Donny would be a start as we will be relegated by then.


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:19 pm 
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Agreed only as one united voice do we stand a chance


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:24 pm 
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Post of the year Mr I as it shows there can be a positive. We are a proper football town that can save our club if we all pull together


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:26 pm 
Is it out of the league I fear :sad-roulette:


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:27 pm 
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Dalton'sHaircut wrote:
Post of the year Mr I as it shows there can be a positive. We are a proper football town that can save our club if we all pull together



Agreed. Let's all pull together and rid the club from These sneaky not nice people rakxe


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:31 pm 
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The fat lady hasn't quite sung yet but shes definitely warming up. But whats next?

I take no pleasure in the warnings that we've been giving for the best past of a year. We've taken no end of stick and slagging off but thats all done and past. There ain't no sugar daddy waiting to come in from the wings but there is a substantial number of fans who would happily give their all for Pools.

Gary Coxall, Pam Duxbury et al don't bring any financial muscle to the club, so why can't people who bleed blue and white do a better job? There were 4000 Pools fans there today and a fair number of the are intelligent qualified people. Amongst those who are hurting tonight are business people, lawyers, accountants, bankers, the odd TV personality and a huge number of people who would happily give of their time and effort to the club.

Today Newport climbed above Pools. There are those who will tell you that fan owned clubs can't succeed. Well Newport are one of those who prove otherwise. There are a lot of others too.

Hartlepool is an insular but very proud town. We proved a decade ago when the NSD CD was release that townsfolk will gather round something that promotes the town and is for town. We gave a couple of kids charities 5 grand each after that escapade but thats not the point. Its the reaction of the people of Hartlepool that mattered then and could matter now.

We need to chase Coxall, Jones, Goldberg and Duxbury out of the town. They have been disasterous for the club and I don't believe they're done yet. We need to gather together from all factions for the good of our club. Its time to put aside petty differences and fight for our future. We are the only chance HUFC has and thats got to be more important that back biting.

The Supporters Trust is the way forward. Not because of some personal pride but because its part of a national organisation that is recognised by the various authorities. Its FCA registered, operated in accordance with strict guidlines and importantly; acknowledged by the FA and football league. It doesn't belong to me or any other board member, its one member one vote and each member owns one share. It has major backing from Supporters Direct but without the backing of the fans its nothing.

We need to take back or club from the people who are destroying it.


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:43 pm 
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If by Doncaster we are relegated then something needs to be done. I don't know what. But standing by and letting this let destroy the club isn't an option


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:54 pm 
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I'm with you all the way John and have been from the start - I wouldn't mind if the club struggled if the people who owned it were doing an honest job. But these people are only in it for their own self-interest - we need them out ASAP.


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:57 pm 
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These f**kers won't go anywhere until they've squeezed as much money as they can out of our demise. I for one will not be going to anymore home games until they've gone, will save the money for when it will inevitably be needed by the trust.


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:01 pm 
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I was actually shocked today by the silence. It's as if there's NOTHING we can do...


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:25 pm 
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Remember the 80's even. Just before Bob Moncur's sacking we had a sit in protest after the game in the Rink End and then there was as much ire aimed at the Board as the team. These days it all seems to be about blaming the players whereas the problems have been beautifully articulated on here. We need these robbing fuckers out of the club before they swallow the parachute payment, any season ticket money and any transfer fees. It's money for nothing for them and the protest needs to be loud and strong starting now


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:01 pm 
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Chip Fireball wrote:
My biggest concern if they stick around ( and I 100 per cent think that they will ) is that there is a parachute payment made if we drop out of the League. That is our Get out of Jail card. Make no mistake, if we don't get out of that league in the first two seasons we might never do it.

There are only TWO promotion places, how often has the club finished in the top two in any league it has played in ?

So that parachute payment is absolute gold dust and it needs to be spent in its entirety on putting together a team that can win games week in and week out. Does anyone actually trust Coxall and Goldberg with that money ?

They were £100k in debt within 2 months of this season despite getting £750K Football League money, 3000 season ticket sales and renaming rights for the ground. Nobody knows where that money went. It will be exactly the same next season- they will all draw a wage, Sage will get their interest payments on the loan, and we will be watching a squad of cheap recruits being paid buttons.

We need to get them out before that money arrives.


Nailed it.

I can't see the club avoiding a consecutive relegation and ultimately surviving without that money.

How you do you drive these bastards from the club? They won't just walk away. They've got no reputation to uphold, he's a shite and unsurprisingly failed businessman, and their all going to want something in return for leaving...

Something needs sorting for the Donny match, inevitably going to be all over the TV/media and is a perfect opportunity to make a point and get come coverage, once we've been relegated.


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:03 pm 
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Absolutely, they have to be forced out.


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:11 pm 
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They stick to the club with all the loyalty of a leech. The place is a shambolic wasteland, we'd like our dignity back.
There's rebuilding to be done and we ain't talking little boxes to rent or buy.

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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:14 pm 
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Its up to us, The Trust and Jeff.....the fight starts in earnest now.


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:19 pm 
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what shocked me today was their was around 12 of us willing to protest. Everyone seemed to willingly accept it all.


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
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We have to fight now before the parachute payment etc can get into the grubby paws of the current owners. We want our club back, I'm sure there are companies out there willing to work with Pools and sponsor them with the right owners


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
what shocked me today was their was around 12 of us willing to protest. Everyone seemed to willingly accept it all.

Protest to who or what. There's no point, just voices on the wind. They aren't listening and we've been conditioned for years now, it's no surprise this outcome, just the final great burp of life leaving the corpse of our club.
There's more important things to be done now to save the club than gestures .

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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
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at least Jeff is getting involved in a meaningful way now he has resigned as President.....this has to be the way forward.


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
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Dalton'sHaircut wrote:
Post of the year Mr I as it shows there can be a positive. We are a proper football town that can save our club if we all pull together


Agree wholeheartedly.

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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
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Mr I, if theres a fighting fund set up to enable us to get rid of the shower running the club then you can have the 250 quid I would normally spend on a season ticket. Theres no way I'm handing any more cash over to Coxall.


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:25 pm 
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Mr I, if theres a fighting fund set up to enable us to get rid of the shower running the club then you can have the 250 quid I would normally spend on a season ticket. Theres no way I'm handing any more cash over to Coxall.


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
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That's very generous. I suspect that we will be needing a few quid in due course. Have you joined the trust by the way?


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
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yup, been in the trust from the start. let me know when you need the cash.


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
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Jefferson wrote:
Mr I, if theres a fighting fund set up to enable us to get rid of the shower running the club then you can have the 250 quid I would normally spend on a season ticket. Theres no way I'm handing any more cash over to Coxall.


What a great idea. nobody renews their season ticket but instead puts the cash in the trust fund...BINGO!!! count me in. :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
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Pirlo's Beard. wrote:
Chip Fireball wrote:
My biggest concern if they stick around ( and I 100 per cent think that they will ) is that there is a parachute payment made if we drop out of the League. That is our Get out of Jail card. Make no mistake, if we don't get out of that league in the first two seasons we might never do it.

There are only TWO promotion places, how often has the club finished in the top two in any league it has played in ?

So that parachute payment is absolute gold dust and it needs to be spent in its entirety on putting together a team that can win games week in and week out. Does anyone actually trust Coxall and Goldberg with that money ?

They were £100k in debt within 2 months of this season despite getting £750K Football League money, 3000 season ticket sales and renaming rights for the ground. Nobody knows where that money went. It will be exactly the same next season- they will all draw a wage, Sage will get their interest payments on the loan, and we will be watching a squad of cheap recruits being paid buttons.

We need to get them out before that money arrives.


Nailed it.

I can't see the club avoiding a consecutive relegation and ultimately surviving without that money.

How you do you drive these bastards from the club? They won't just walk away. They've got no reputation to uphold, he's a shite and unsurprisingly failed businessman, and their all going to want something in return for leaving...

Something needs sorting for the Donny match, inevitably going to be all over the TV/media and is a perfect opportunity to make a point and get come coverage, once we've been relegated.


He's NOT a businessman.

He's a conman with a string of so called businesses, which let's not forget a "shelf company" can be bought on the internet for next to f*** all, most of which have had no turnover.

Goldberg is the same. They have taken it in turns to be each other's "partner" in the new business along with a couple of other unsavoury characters. The so-called JPNG recruiting is a front. There clearly never was a Dubai operation, nor a multi-millionaire partner in Dubai with a fictitious name and I would personally be very surprised if they ever recruited anyone.

But to buy a fooball club you need a front. There's is in a washed out Business park in Essex. It's also the registered address of several other of the fly-by-night "businesses " run by these con artists. In is probably a mail box.

Many people said that GC was charismatic and convincing in the first meetings. What other quality does a conman need apart from thick skin and a total disregard for his victim?

What did Hartlepool United FC have that could interest a bunch of conmen from Essex?
Property, no debt, acquirable for thruppence, large turnover of cash etc.

Who didn't do the due diligence? I suppose it was DNO because they just wanted shut.

Coxall has certainly worked hard since he's arrived. Worked hard trying to convince the council to let them sell the ground. No surprise that the lending agency that bailed HUFC out of accrued debts is a real estate specialist.

What Coxall et al have done is criminal. We need to get that rope out of the museum and erect the gallows on the beach again.

The Town's Club

Bled dry and out of the league.

HUFC have NEVER won a division since 1922. They have never won a play-off final.
To escape from the National League they have to do one of the above.
History is against us.


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 Post subject: Re: So where do we go from here?
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History is there to be rewritten. We're down, but not out. Now get up off your knees because the fightback starts in earnest now.

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We'd never got to a play off final before Cardiff and we where 9 minutes away from winning that until a cheating fuckin ref gave a penalty. Now is the time to MAKE history not be it .. get behind the trust abd let's make Hartlepool United FC the club it can be.

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