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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:08 pm 
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To the Smoking ban--whats your thoughtsImage


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My thoughts are:why don't the government go the whole hog and make it illegal rather than pretending to really care for the public health and well-being whilst still raking in millions of pounds in duty?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:03 pm 
bloody great i begrudge wasting money on clothes to have them stinking of smoke after a night out :evil:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:06 pm 
townendtimmy wrote:
bloody great i begrudge wasting money on clothes to have them stinking of smoke after a night out :evil:


You could always wash them Timmy......, Asda Smart Price is good and only about £1.50 for a massive box, rather then chucking then out after one night on the lash! :grin:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:10 pm 
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townendtimmy wrote:
bloody great i begrudge wasting money on clothes to have them stinking of smoke after a night out :evil:


You could always wash them Timmy......, Asda Smart Price is good and only about £1.50 for a massive box, rather then chucking then out after one night on the lash! :grin:


dont get me started on soap powder ffs, i think our lass just likes watching the drum of the washing machine turn.. 10-15 quid for a box of soap powder she reckons you gotta use on in record time rage rage

if people wanna smoke get on with it but as long as i dont have to share it


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townendtimmy wrote:
TalbotAvenger wrote:
townendtimmy wrote:
bloody great i begrudge wasting money on clothes to have them stinking of smoke after a night out :evil:


You could always wash them Timmy......, Asda Smart Price is good and only about £1.50 for a massive box, rather then chucking then out after one night on the lash! :grin:


dont get me started on soap powder ffs, i think our lass just likes watching the drum of the washing machine turn.. 10-15 quid for a box of soap powder she reckons you gotta use on in record time rage rage

if people wanna smoke get on with it but as long as i dont have to share it

meanwhile let your lass kill the world quicker with all of her washing chores!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:12 pm 
katcha wrote:
townendtimmy wrote:
TalbotAvenger wrote:
townendtimmy wrote:
bloody great i begrudge wasting money on clothes to have them stinking of smoke after a night out :evil:


You could always wash them Timmy......, Asda Smart Price is good and only about £1.50 for a massive box, rather then chucking then out after one night on the lash! :grin:


dont get me started on soap powder ffs, i think our lass just likes watching the drum of the washing machine turn.. 10-15 quid for a box of soap powder she reckons you gotta use on in record time rage rage

if people wanna smoke get on with it but as long as i dont have to share it

meanwhile let your lass kill the world quicker with all of her washing chores!!!


if only she could do it cheaper and not fecking moan... eeesh the world would be a better place :grin:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:41 pm 
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I am a non smoker but think that it is a load of crap. It is someone's personal choice if they smoke and a business holders choice if they choose to allow smoking in their establishments. I really don't see why no smoking areas are not enough.

Why should publicans or cafe owners for example be dictated to on what they can allow or their premisis?

As a non smoker if I find that most smokers are polite these days and don't just light up in front of you anyway but is their any REAl evidence that passive smoking actually exists. Whats next - no alcahol in publiic? That would be a good one........


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:01 pm 
its thought control instigated by america, and americans are not nice people,and our government is so far up america's arse its not true

I oppose america me
full of weird cults innit
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All smokers should hang. clappp


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:09 pm 
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its thought control instigated by america, and americans are c***,and our government is so far up america's arse its not true

I oppose america me
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Where as the UK isnt :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:23 am 
Smoking is compulsory in China. That's why the Panda's almost died out.

They spent that much on tabs they never had enough left to buy bamboo to eat and a lot starved to death.

Honest. :sweeeet:


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it isn't as big a step as most would think. most big stadiums have been non smoking for ages,a lot of large train stations have been non smoking for a while,and I believe most councils when granting booze licences have been making it a condition of the licence. scotland has had it for ages and wales went non smoking on april 1st.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:44 pm 
TalbotAvenger wrote:
Salty wrote:
its thought control instigated by america, and americans are c***,and our government is so far up america's arse its not true

I oppose america me
full of weird cults innit
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Where as the UK isnt :roll:


yes, and were so far up America's arse..............................etc...................


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:54 pm 
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This is just so stupid and another indication of how controlled we all are.

Smoking in all public places should be banned. Of course it depends on what you call public.

Smoking in private places shouldnt.

Ban smoking in Offices, stadiums train stations etc etc.

Putting blanket bans on smoking in pubs and clubs is fookin scandalous.

That should be down to whoever owns the places.

If the owner wants smoking allowed, those who oppose it would have choice to enter there or not. And Vice versa.

Thats called democracy I think.


But I want the smoking ban and so do a fair few other so what is undemocratic about that?


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ADG wrote:
This is just so stupid and another indication of how controlled we all are.

Smoking in all public places should be banned. Of course it depends on what you call public.

Smoking in private places shouldnt.

Ban smoking in Offices, stadiums train stations etc etc.

Putting blanket bans on smoking in pubs and clubs is fookin scandalous.

That should be down to whoever owns the places.

If the owner wants smoking allowed, those who oppose it would have choice to enter there or not. And Vice versa.

Thats called democracy I think.



Excellent points - wery well put ADG... clappp


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Where's the democracy in me breathing in deadly, poisonous smoke?

You could tell me just not to go into those places but then.......

Actually that's a good point.

Hmmmmmmmmmm

The case rests.

Hmmmm

Hmm

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:42 pm 
When the smoking ban came in Scotland there was a big push in the media in the following weeks to say that it had

a) no impact, or

b) a bizarre positive impact in sales.

Anyone been in bars in Scotland know that they are FULL of smokers - so how on earth it could have a positive effect I dont know.

Latest stats - on average on-sales down by 10%

I smoke - I loke smoking - and would willingly only go to bars full of people like myself. We know the dangers, let us polute each other in peace. When we get poorly, all the massive amounts of tax we have paid in will see us right. No - too easy. Lets all hang out in doorways, alleyways etc etc.

I agree to controls in offices etc but allow us to smoke somewhere. Where I live loads of folk said that it would be a good thing for the hotel to ban cigs as that is the only reason they dont go in. Liar liar, bums on fire. Its us smokers who still go in and put £30 over the bar on a Friday and still pathetically troop outside for a fag.

Feching hate the smoking ban, me like.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:30 pm 
I'm a smoker but will hopefully stop when the ban comes in!!!! :roll:

I've been to Edinburgh a couple of times since the ban and most of the pubs I went in were dead!!!! :roll: :roll:

Got talking to a Barman and he said 100's of rural pubs have had to close but you never see that in the news!!!! :evil: :evil:

To me it should be upto the individual pub/club and if they allow smoking, only employ smokers!!!! :grin:


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well all the lost tax revenue from pubs and clubs will need to be made up from somewhere. Very silly law, speaking as someone who will almost certainly feel the brunt of it. I'm glad we've only got 18 months of this lease left. It will probably be boarded up after we bail out.

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INTRODUCING TOBACCO TO CIVILISATION
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Bob Newhart




Milestones are never really recognised right away... it takes fifty or sixty years before people realise what an achievement it is. Take for instance... tobacco, it was discovered by Sir Walter Raleigh... and he sent it over to England from the colonies.
It seems to me, the uses of tobacco aren't obvious right off the bat... and I imagine a phone conversation between Sir Walter Raleigh and the head of the 'West Indies Company' in England, explaining about this shipment of tobacco... would go something like this...

Telephone rings

Yeh?...
Who is it, Frank?...
Sir Walter Raleigh?...
Yeh?...
Yeh, put him on, will you!
Hey, Harry... you wanna pick up the extension?...
Yeh! it's nutty Walter again!
Hi, Walter baby, how are you, guy? How's everything going?...
Oh, things are fine here, Walt!...
Did we get the what?...
Oh!, the boat load of turkeys, yeh! They arrived fine Walt, as a matter of fact they're still here, they're wonderin' all over London...
Well, y'see, that's an American holiday, Walt!!!...
What you got for us this time, Walt, you got another winner for us?
Tob-acco... er, what's tob-acco, Walt?...
It's a kind of leaf, huh?...
And you bought eighty tonnes of it?!!...
Let me get this straight, Walt, you've bought eighty tonnes of leaves? This may come as a kind of a surprise to you Walt but come fall in England, we're kinda upto our...
It isn't that kind of leaf, huh?...
Oh!, what kind is it then... some special kind of food?...
Not exactly?...
Oh, it has a lot of different uses, like, what are some of the uses, Walt?...
Are you saying 'snuff', Walt?...
What's snuff?...
You take a pinch of tobacco, ha! ha! ha!...
And you shove it up your nose. ha! ha! ha!...
and it makes you sneeze? ha! ha! ha!...
Yeh, I imagine it would, Walt! Hey, Goldenrod seems to do it pretty well over here!
It has other uses though, huh?...
You can chew it!...
Or put it in a pipe!...
Or you can shred it up...
And put it in a piece of paper. ha! ha! ha!...
And roll it up. ha ha ha...
Don't tell me, Walt, don't tell me. ha! ha! ha! you stick it in your ear, right? ha! ha! ha!...
Oh! between your lips!...
Then what do you do, Walt? ha! ha! ha!...
You set fire to it! ha! ha! ha!...
Then what do you do, Walt?...
Ha! ha! ha! You inhale the smoke, huh! ha! ha! ha!...
You know, Walt... it seems you can stand in front of your own fireplace and have the same thing going for you!
You see, Walt... we've been a little worried about you, y'know, ever since you put your cape down over that mud.
Y'see, Walt... I think you're gonna have rather a tough time selling people on sticking burning leaves in their mouthes...
It's going very big over there, is it?...
What's the matter, Walt?...
You spilt your what?...
Your coff-ee?.
What's coffee, Walt?...
That's a drink you make out of beans, huh? ha! ha! ha!...
That's going over very big there, too, is it?...
A lot of people have a cup of coffee right after their first cigarette in the morning, huh?...
Is that what you call the burning leaves, Walt?... cigarettes?...
I tell you what, Walt!, why don't you send us a boatload of those beans, too!
If you can talk people into putting those burning leaves in their mouthes... they've gotta go for those beans, Walt!... right?
Listen, Walt... don't call us... we'll call you!...
G'bye!

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