Is that theee games on the bounce now?

Look them benches are tight man.

You put Jones, his Assistants, Sam Collins, Buster and the subs in its pretty intimate

Can only assume it's so long since he's managed that Jones doesn't know the rules....

But on a serious note, it's difficult to see who else he would put on the bench right now.

He could put anyone of the young lads on the bench to give them the match day experience and support their development.

After all he tells us he's brilliant at inspiring and developing players

Things are so tight we have to save on ink on the team sheets.

Washing powder ain't free you know and think of the mangle wear.

Save money.

Always thought from first time seen a team not full their bench as an embarrassment.

No change when it is us and it's a shambles really. Just stick any registered player or youth team on for 7th sub. No excuse

Personally I think Managers do it when they have injuries as it helps it look like an injury crisis and helps give them excuses

Maybe it's a bit of psychology on Jones part. Prove you deserve a place on the bench...

With all due respect that's bollocks.

You surely have to earn a place in the first team squad? Most youth team players or reserve players will have appearance bonuses in their contracts for making the first team bench its an incentive to improve and something to strive for. The bench is already full of kids to just give a place away to save 'embarrassment' to someone who they feel isn't ready or hasn't earned first team football surely sends out completely the wrong message? It's not about excuses, it is where we are and what we have available.

When you have a midfielder playing in defence and no defensive cover on the bench, it make sense to put a defender on the bench. Whether he has earned it or not especially when you only have 6 subs. Every other club in the land manages to fill the bench every week. It is an embarrassment.

Which defender? Who?

We did have a defender on the bench in the young left back Martin. I suppose if one of the centre backs went off Donnelly would go in and he would have come on. Beyond that what options does the manager have?

Well it's not bollocks is it? So if no-one performs in reserves/youth/training what then? Just don't put anyone on the bench?

For a start, pollock seems to start every reserve game and is a cb, which we are massively lacking. If you point out appearance money and having to earn the right, isn't that more worrying that the club might be trying to save cash by not making a sub?

Rodney didn't make the bench at home to Plymouth (6 on bench) but then did make bench and apparently did well at Colchester but then not named last night when we had 6 on there again? There's picking holes in people's opinions but I think you are speaking more bollocks it would seem

I presume by 'Rodney' you mean Rooney and he didn't make the bench in Plymouth game cos he is on loan from them.

Actually I think you do mean Rodney as you say he wasn't named last night but he didn't 'do well' at Colchester as he wasn't on the bench either.

Rooney and Rodney are different players.

No when i mean Rodney, as in devante Rodney? But just realised it was rooney who came off bench at Colchester and people commented looked promising.

My mistake. Apologies

Think we need amond playing though..done well in a desperately bad team this season. Maybe doing what did last night is good plan for strikers though. Give them around 45 each and just tell them run themselves into the ground

Found your logo by the way PJ

It looks unprofessional and its embarrassing. Absolutely no reason not to fill the bench, especially at home.

We should have some fat get on the bench who will never get on but would eat pies whenever we're on telly.
I'm sure the colonel would do it if it was a kebab instead of a pie and it was every game not just the televised ones.

Football League teams receive some form of payment from the FA for playing English players who are under 21. So the club will actually get paid for Hawkes coming on last night, not saying that's why we brought him on mind. With that in mind, surely Jones must be doing it as an incentive to the younger players to prove they deserve that place.

I thought it was more an extra allowance towards fair play rules rather than a payment. I'm probably wrong but my understanding was that for each youngster you give games to they allow you to increase your wage budget slightly.

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Seriously is that your contribution to the thread?

I agree it's embarrassing but the manager has every reason.

Since the start of January have by one way or another got rid of 8 players. We also have a long injury list.

The management work with the players every day, but some of you think a kid should be put on the bench who they don't has earned it or they don't is ready to come on if required to save face when people read the paper!? It doesn't really work like that....

But who is Keyser Soze?

Its not the really an issue especialy when you can only use 3 subs.

I don't think its an "issue" either, just a bit embarrassing. Dunno why but I've always scoffed at other clubs unable to fill the bench.

My son took his bike helmetoff on Sunday and asked me to adjust the strap, I then noticed it said Bell, I chuckled and thought of you and your comment a while ago, just seemed apt after you berating someone again

my contribution was earlier in the thread, SAVE MONEY, FACT!

Who am I berating?

It's hardly to save money is it? That's just plain daft.

I'm in the young kids should be on the bench camp, even just to fill up the numbers.It's a good experience for them being in and around the dressing room, mixing with the first team regulars, listening and gaining professional matchday experience. Also the thrill of being on the pitch just warming up in front of thousands of fans, as opposed to playing in front of ten men and a dog.

I'm in the same camp, I know it probably doesn't make a huge difference but warming up on the pitch and getting match day experience would be good for the kids.

So am I but they've got to be deemed potentially good enough to step up or you are just giving it to them on a plate and it becomes a pointless excercise. The reality is that the vast majority of our youth team/younger players will not make the grade as professional footballers our bench is already full of kids and we have a 17 year old starting. Take young Hawkes last night he came on and maybe only touched the ball once but he looked confident and sprayed a nice pass out wide. You can't just throw people in because they are kids. Reserve team football barely resembles League Two football, no comparison at all, youth team football might as well be a different sport.

Erm Chunky, it`s okay to have a different opinion PJ

I know under 21's don't count as part of the financial fair play but I just remember reading Luton saying after they were fined £15k for weakened teams in the efl trophy that if they played the same teams in 3 league games they'd have been given £9k from the fa for playing so many u21's or something like that.

I know that it why I said I disagreed and have stated how. It's how threads work.

You contribute nothing. Just chip away in the background.