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SpongeBob · **Joined:** Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:08 pm **Posts:** 140

Collins at even money, Jones 5/2

Pools-on-trent · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:46 pm **Posts:** 141

Just logged on to mention this. Not good. Coxall wouldn't, would he?!

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Lets be honest £20/£30 would probably bring Collins in that far on such markets.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Chip Fireball wrote:

I managed to get £50 on with them yesterday I think they take a decent bet.

Who other than folk inside Pools would be backing Collins ?

I was going to stick a tenner on this morning to be honest, cheap option so probably the most likely with current goings on.

Forgot I shut my Skybet account though.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 9572

Jones will be the number two.

Rob Jones.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 7530

Chip Fireball wrote:

Yep, Jones has clearly turned it down because the club is completely broke and they are going with the only bloke who will carry on working for buttons.

Fair play to Big Sam if he takes on the poisoned chalice.

Excuse me, There,s only one Big Sam an hes darn sarf.
So ours is Little Sam, At least thats what his missus said and she should know.

StocksfieldPoolie · **Joined:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:48 pm **Posts:** 324

If Collins is the man left in charge of team affairs, just proves how badly Pools are being run financially.
A case of can the last one turn the lights off....

attackontitan · **Joined:** Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:37 am **Posts:** 269

Grayhoundend wrote:

Excuse me, There,s only one Big Sam an hes darn sarf.
So ours is Little Sam, At least thats what his missus said and she should know.

Which missus?

Minton · **Joined:** Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:53 pm **Posts:** 89

He's 8/11 now.

StocksfieldPoolie · **Joined:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:48 pm **Posts:** 324

All it takes is a tenner or so, try sticking a tenner on Ritchie and watch his odds tumble.....

ElvisC · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:55 am **Posts:** 4504

If it's Sam Collins how totally fucking underwhelmed will you be??

There's a Whelm, I'm getting RIGHT under it.

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:04 pm

Peace and love to all forum users across Hartlepool :romance-grouphug:

StocksfieldPoolie · **Joined:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:48 pm **Posts:** 324

GC might as well appoint himself manager and get rid of the coaching staff....

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Stuart Parnaby is 18/1?? Isn't he a physio?

I might have some of that because as far as I can see he's come from nowhere...

StocksfieldPoolie · **Joined:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:48 pm **Posts:** 324

Most of the movement on these odds are down to speculation. Bookies will easily cut odds from 8/11 down to 1/2 without anything being taken.
People are suckers for betting on odds that have moved downwards, thinking someone is in the know.
If Collins is given the role, even temporary, anyone holding a betting slip will have to wait for 10 matches to be managed by him and in that time, someone else could come in.
These markets are best avoided, better to study the horse racing form if you want to make some cash.

Warwick Hunt · **Posted:** Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:36 pm

Maybe GC went down to Throston bookies and put loads of money on Collins (Just kidding).

Would pay the tax bill though.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

He'd have to get a loan to put 'loads' on and it would have to be LOADS to pay the tax bill.

StocksfieldPoolie · **Joined:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:48 pm **Posts:** 324

Good call Warwick Hunt, maybe that was what the loans were for, lumping on big!

StocksfieldPoolie · **Joined:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:48 pm **Posts:** 324

If Sky heard from a reliable source that Manager X was in the running and was considering whether to take the job, they would cut the odds to 1/6 or less straight away without anyone getting a single bet on.

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

Chip Fireball wrote:

We know Jones was offered the job last week, and also that Pools thought he was going to take it.

Suppose what Hignett has been saying all along is true, he would surely have tipped Jones off to the fact ? And any other prospective manager.

If Collins gets the job then I wish him every success with it, and I actually think he is the sort of bloke who could pull it off. However it would leave Coxhall in a very bad place along with those on social media who have kept defending him. I cant imagine he would risk showing up for the game on Saturday.

There are 2 weeks of the transfer window left if somebody gets appointed tomorrow. That's no time at all for a new bloke to assess the squad, identify targets (loan targets if Hignett is to be believed, which he probably is) and try to get them over the line before the window closes.

On the other hand, if the club has to sell again for financial reasons, Thomas let's say, Coxall would need to be up front about that and make it clear that selling is non-negotiable. That's a good enough reason for any incomer to think twice.

All in all, Collins as caretaker till the end of the season makes sense. At least he already knows the squad and will have ideas on how to shake things up. He wasn't afraid to make changes in his two previous, very short short spells as caretaker.

If only I could get the example of Paul Stephenson out of my head...

Chrissy Stevo · **Posted:** Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:15 pm

Both of them at 5/4 now. Someone must of had a bit of Jones at 5/2.

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kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 9572

Im still confident we can finish the dizzy heights of 22nd.
As for next season it could be a bridge to far with the financial state of the club.

poolietim · **Posted:** Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:14 pm

Well the Fail online have a story headlining as would Stevie Gerrard be tempted to be Pools boss. I mean FFS

It's a piece about who Pools fans are talking about and there's a few saying how much they'd like Darryl Clark to do the job.

Actual people think he'd leave League 1 Bristol Rovers to take on our shower. Nowt so queer as folk eh

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 7530

poolietim wrote:

Well the Fail online have a story headlining as would Stevie Gerrard be tempted to be Pools boss. I mean FFS

It's a piece about who Pools fans are talking about and there's a few saying how much they'd like Darryl Clark to do the job.

Actual people think he'd leave League 1 Bristol Rovers to take on our shower. Nowt so queer as folk eh

As you say Nowt so queer as folk, A lot of them have been turning up at the Vic weekin/weekout this season.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

poolietim wrote:

Well the Fail online have a story headlining as would Stevie Gerrard be tempted to be Pools boss. I mean FFS

It's a piece about who Pools fans are talking about and there's a few saying how much they'd like Darryl Clark to do the job.

Actual people think he'd leave League 1 Bristol Rovers to take on our shower. Nowt so queer as folk eh

I opted for Alf Ramsey, it was a close call between him and Darrell Clarke.

Compo · **Posted:** Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:01 pm

I heard that contract been offered but negotiating back room staff.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Compo wrote:

I heard that contract been offered but negotiating back room staff.

What are his choices? Any 2 of the free meerkat toys from compare the market?

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Mr I doesn't like anything brown so can we rule that out.

pooliebob · **Joined:** Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:01 pm **Posts:** 264

Totally agree. If we are planning long term - hopefully with Dave Jones; we have to support him now to get the team he needs to turn this club round. Look at the Phil Brown saga.. didn't back him when wanted his own men and lost out on him. Done pretty well at Southend since...

Jones may have been out of game 3 years but he must be chomping at the bit to get back into it and prove a few people wrong. This is the time for experience, calm and know-how; not for a gamble or inexperience that could see us plunge into non league!

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Thing I like about Jones is that I bet he can be a right 'lovely lovely person'.

congress_tart · **Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:39 am

One thing to remember about the betting is that caretakers who take charge for ten games will be deemed permanent in terms of the bookies eyes. So Collins obviously in temp charge, which may have encouraged some money for him.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:42 am

I don't think GC is in the same league as KH when it comes to the laboriously slow selection of managers. Only once did KH ever get his arse into gear.
A case of corporate procedures versus winging it.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 7530

Big Tony is coming up on the rails!!!

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:44 pm

Grayhoundend wrote:

Big Tony is coming up on the rails!!!

Go on, i`ll bite, Tony?

GeoffcN · **Joined:** Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:10 pm **Posts:** 463

Mowbray

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:07 pm

Ah Chuckles himself, pools world will have their work cut out there!

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:11 pm

Danny Cowley.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 7530

Big Tony, Perfect tactician.

If you don,t perform, You have sit in the changies for an hour long lecture after the game.
What more motavation would you need. lol

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19773

tony mowbray the man that bores his own fans more than the opposition. how he ever gets a job is beyond me. hate to be stuck in a lift with him without a suicide pill.

Warwick Hunt · **Posted:** Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:00 am

Jones now 1/12 on SkyBet. Even shorter odds than the day Hignett left.

Hopefully an announcement can't be too far away now.

ptbap · **Posted:** Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:03 am

Next Permanent Hartlepool Manager

Next Permanent Manager Caretaker and interim managers completing at least 10 competitive games will be deemed the permanent manager

Dave Jones 1/12
Sam Collins 9/1
Tony Mowbray 11/1
Alex Rae 14/1
Steve Harper 16/1
Ritchie Humphreys 18/1
Danny Wilson 20/1
Stuart Parnaby 20/1
Neil Redfearn 20/1
Kenny Jackett 22/1
David Flitcroft 22/1
Tony Sweeney 22/1
Graeme Lee 22/1
Richie Barker 22/1
Ronnie Moore 25/1
Alan Stubbs 25/1
Mark Tinkler 25/1
Billy McKinlay 25/1
Paolo Di Canio 28/1
Rob Page 33/1
Steven Gerrard 33/1
Kevin Keegan 50/1

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Who generally did Jones have as his back room staff?

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:09 am

A few names I've seen he worked with were Stuart Gray, Terry Burton and Paul Wilkinson.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Now's the time to stick some on Collins, especially if you have as much faith in Coxall as I do.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Stuck a cheeky 5 pound on big Sam

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ptbap · **Posted:** Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:54 am

Sam Collins is now 4/6

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Shows how tight the market is if only Yubep's £5 made that much difference!

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Sorry if anyone else wanted too

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tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Yubep wrote:

Sorry if anyone else wanted too

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Hope your happy, the price is now ruined. sadx

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

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