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 Post subject: We're fucked....
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:49 am 
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Yeah. We're done.


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Im not going again till were not fucked.

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Can't see it ending any other way than badly. I actually feel sick.


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 Post subject: Re: We're fucked....
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Not normally a doom monger, but I think this is the worst situation I can remember.

Even when bucket collecting under Gibson, hours from the end you had a feeling something would happen.

Not this time. :-(


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 Post subject: Re: We're fucked....
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At least Gibson had the dignity to get us promoted before he took the piss.


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 Post subject: Re: We're fucked....
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:58 am 
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tREE_wiTH_hAMStER wrote:
Im not going again till were not fucked.



I'm not going again till you've not gone because we're not fucked.

Got to say I'm not surprised that a tone of fatigue is setting in. Some of the stuff on here is starting to get repetitive and going round in circles. Matt Haycox was exposed as a first-class dodgepot on here on the Mortgage thread over a week ago.

The new stuff this week is the Master Plan PR puff and another £104,000 apparently unpaid to HMRC. Speaking as another Bunker SME owner, WTF? How big is the club's turnover? Does Coxall never pay anything over to the taxman without a threat of a court appearance?

There are people on the other board saying the whole thing is scaremongering, a recruitment drive for HUST. If only.

On the other hand, the tenor of a lot of comments on here suggests that the whole pack of cards is going to come crashing down in a matter of days, if not hours. That's not realistic either.

More detective work and real news, yes please. The Bunker at its best.

Endless chuntering and raking over the same old coals, no thanks. The Bunker at its worst.


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 Post subject: Re: We're fucked....
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Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father wrote:
tREE_wiTH_hAMStER wrote:
Im not going again till were not fucked.



I'm not going again till you've not gone because we're not fucked.

Got to say I'm not surprised that a tone of fatigue is setting in. Some of the stuff on here is starting to get repetitive and going round in circles. Matt Haycox was exposed as a first-class dodgepot on here on the Mortgage thread over a week ago.

The new stuff this week is the Master Plan PR puff and another £104,000 apparently unpaid to HMRC. Speaking as another Bunker SME owner, WTF? How big is the club's turnover? Does Coxall never pay anything over to the taxman without a threat of a court appearance?

There are people on the other board saying the whole thing is scaremongering, a recruitment drive for HUST. If only.

On the other hand, the tenor of a lot of comments on here suggests that the whole pack of cards is going to come crashing down in a matter of days, if not hours. That's not realistic either.

More detective work and real news, yes please. The Bunker at its best.

Endless chuntering and raking over the same old coals, no thanks. The Bunker at its worst.


Great post.


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 Post subject: Re: We're fucked....
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Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father wrote:
tREE_wiTH_hAMStER wrote:
Im not going again till were not fucked.



I'm not going again till you've not gone because we're not fucked.

Got to say I'm not surprised that a tone of fatigue is setting in. Some of the stuff on here is starting to get repetitive and going round in circles. Matt Haycox was exposed as a first-class dodgepot on here on the Mortgage thread over a week ago.

The new stuff this week is the Master Plan PR puff and another £104,000 apparently unpaid to HMRC. Speaking as another Bunker SME owner, WTF? How big is the club's turnover? Does Coxall never pay anything over to the taxman without a threat of a court appearance?

There are people on the other board saying the whole thing is scaremongering, a recruitment drive for HUST. If only.

On the other hand, the tenor of a lot of comments on here suggests that the whole pack of cards is going to come crashing down in a matter of days, if not hours. That's not realistic either.

More detective work and real news, yes please. The Bunker at its best.

Endless chuntering and raking over the same old coals, no thanks. The Bunker at its worst.


Everyone forgetting THE big January announcement, that will calm them down.

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 Post subject: Re: We're fucked....
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I agree with Mr knew my Father, it's become polarised and there is nothing new now.

That said we need to keep a close watching brief. This property developing nonsense won't ever happen. I don't believe a word of it. The tax bill will probably be paid off by another slug of money from Access finance which makes the total bill the thick end of 1/4 million that we're in hock to them so expect a player or two to disappear in January.

Some seem cool with it all so maybe we're wrong and the sugar daddies are queuing up along Clarence Road.

Either way, lets let them get on with it and see what happens. I do suspect though, theres more to come and in the not that distant future.


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 Post subject: Re: We're fucked....
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The local press seem very very very very 'supportive'.

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Couple of billionaires just drove past the bottom of our street in the direction of Hartlepool. Nowt to worrry about.

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Chip Fireball wrote:
The more you dig into the history of this Goldberg fella ( assuming that's even his name ) the more depressing it gets.

He seems to have a cavalier attitude towards paying tax and little or no aptitude for running any kind of business, let alone one with the kind of turnover a League Two football club would generate.

It's just really hard to see how this can end anything other than badly. Selling off your best players to pay a tax bill is hardly a recipe for success, especially when we are not many points off the drop zone. We have already sold off stadium naming rights, kit sponsorship, and are out of all the cup competitions.

There are just under 5 months of the season left, wages need to paid, bills need to be paid, and attendances seem to be dwindling. Not sure there are any games where the away end will be packed and income generated from opposition fans.

We could post a list of Goldberg companies and highlight which are in the process of being liquidated and which are subject to winding up petitions currently, but it would only serve to depress people further.



How many companies are we talking and surely some are doing well?

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Apologies if this has been posted before

https://bdaily.co.uk/business-in-sport/ ... velopment/

I don't like Coxalls comment about not wanting to deal with big banks, also the fact they got the money through in 3 days seems mental,it really is a wonga style loan.

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 Post subject: Re: We're fucked....
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Why is the money needed in three days for a development that hasn't even got planning permission yet?


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 Post subject: Re: We're fucked....
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Joe Mac wrote:
Apologies if this has been posted before

https://bdaily.co.uk/business-in-sport/ ... velopment/

I don't like Coxalls comment about not wanting to deal with big banks, also the fact they got the money through in 3 days seems mental,it really is a wonga style loan.


It was the comment about not liking to deal with big banks that got me worried. Would they have rejected any loan request due to the long term viability? Who knows.


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Chip Fireball wrote:
The more you dig into the history of this Goldberg fella ( assuming that's even his name ) the more depressing it gets.

He seems to have a cavalier attitude towards paying tax and little or no aptitude for running any kind of business, let alone one with the kind of turnover a League Two football club would generate.

It's just really hard to see how this can end anything other than badly. Selling off your best players to pay a tax bill is hardly a recipe for success, especially when we are not many points off the drop zone. We have already sold off stadium naming rights, kit sponsorship, and are out of all the cup competitions.

There are just under 5 months of the season left, wages need to paid, bills need to be paid, and attendances seem to be dwindling. Not sure there are any games where the away end will be packed and income generated from opposition fans.

We could post a list of Goldberg companies and highlight which are in the process of being liquidated and which are subject to winding up petitions currently, but it would only serve to depress people further.

Not trying to defend the indefensible here but someone with a similar attitude is now President Elect of the Free World.

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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Why is the money needed in three days for a development that hasn't even got planning permission yet?

Because if Pools are wound up then there will be no millhouse Burj Khalif.


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Chip Fireball wrote:
The more you dig into the history of this Goldberg fella ( assuming that's even his name ) the more depressing it gets.

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Could even be Iceberg..... and as we all know, don't get too close and avoid any contact or it'll end in tears.

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