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Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

The I didn't know they were playing England thread

Or TIDKTWPET as it's called for short

England play tomorrow. Mutley didn't know.

Rooneys starting upfront.

Everyone excited?

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The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

who are they playing? And is it on the Televisual set?

And who is the manager this week?

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Some passionate third world country in Northumbria.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

Oh no, not another passionate opponent. We are fucked then.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

I don't think Scotland count as passionate because they're completely shit as apposed to Wales who are just bang average.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

I'm bored already

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

How shit is Jordan Henderson?

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Stones is making Griffiths look dangerous and he would struggle to get in Pools side.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Any chance of someone changing the daft filter thing back I quite like saying s hit and s hite. It was slightly funny for about three days back in July.

Dalton'sHaircut · **Joined:** Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:26 pm **Posts:** 1013

PJPoolie wrote:

How guano is Jordan Henderson?

Type 1 on the Bristol Stool Chart - separate hard lumps (hard to pass)

Rooney I would say is Type 2 - Sausage shaped but lumpy

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

It says more about how poor England than Rooney but he is still one of England's better players amongst loads of limited ones he's shown some moments of quality.

Why do we play at such and slow tempo when we have pace in the team? You don't need two players like Dier and Henderson surely one of those two has to have a bit more zip and quality about them? When not start Wilshire, he's fit and playing regularly and has more ability in his little finger than Jordan Henderson.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

England have been garbage but could win this 5 or 6.

Scotland's back four make Pools look watertight.

Zippy · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:37 am **Posts:** 265

Sterling

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

One of the most talented players we have. He missed an open goal so what. The final third isn't really an issue.

Zippy · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:37 am **Posts:** 265

PJPoolie wrote:

One of the most talented players we have. He missed an open goal so what. The final third isn't really an issue.

He is dogshit, if people see him as one of the most talented, we will win fuck all ever, I would play Oates before him.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Confirmation that you are who everyone thinks you are!?

Dogshit!?

He's not the finished article but if you can't see his obvious ability then you are clueless, the bloke who manages him at club level seems to rate him seems and be getting the best out of him. For someone who is dogshit he did alright against Barcelona the other week as well.

England need to get the best out the talented players we do have.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

If guardiola rates you then I would listen. certainly over anyone on here.

The Bishop · **Posted:** Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:59 pm

England were complete Guano at the back. At least the 2 fullbacks looked dangerous going forward. Midfield virtually non existent, Llallallalala looked like creating something. Did we play a forward as apart from the goal Sterling was never in the box.

Luckily our Northern neighbours were even more Guano than us. A decent team would have taken advantage of our frailties. Anyway 3 more points towards qualification to a tournament where we will be Guano and embarrasing.

Zippy · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:37 am **Posts:** 265

PJPoolie wrote:

Confirmation that you are who everyone thinks you are!?

Dogshit!?

He's not the finished article but if you can't see his obvious ability then you are clueless, the bloke who manages him at club level seems to rate him seems and be getting the best out of him. For someone who is dogshit he did alright against Barcelona the other week as well.

England need to get the best out the talented players we do have.

I texted my mentor prior to posting and he agreed with me, he used something stronger than dogshit mind, I toned it down so as not to offend those with (SPS) Sensory processing sensitivity.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

I really don't think anybody can be arsed with you so we'll move on.

Back to the game and England I really do think the problem is midfield. Both in how we set up the team and the players we pick. All of the best teams in the World right press high up the field England spend the earlier part of most games sitting off with two limited midfield players players exchanging sideways and backwards passes with the centre backs. Even an utterly terrible Scotland team pressed better than us for 45 minutes.

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

Sterling plays like a 5 year old head goes down far too easily

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The Bishop · **Posted:** Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:32 pm

PJPoolie wrote:

Back to the game and England I really do think the problem is midfield. Both in how we set up the team and the players we pick. All of the best teams in the World right press high up the field England spend the earlier part of most games sitting off with two limited midfield players players exchanging sideways and backwards passes with the centre backs. Even an utterly terrible Scotland team pressed better than us for 45 minutes.

I have to agree PJ, for a while now England has been set up for possession football, which allows decent teams to sit back and break quick on the counter. The tempo is far too slow again allowing teams to hold a defensive shape and soak up the pressure, and to get players behind the ball, so when a ball does go in the box it is usually snuffed out. England has some good fast attacking full/wing backs and"Wingers", yet the wingers are rarely given space to run at their opponents. Play a quicker tempo and maybe add a creative central midfielder and the National team may no longer flatter to deceive.

Zippy · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:37 am **Posts:** 265

PJPoolie wrote:

I really don't think anybody can be arsed with you so we'll move on.

Back to the game and England I really do think the problem is midfield. Both in how we set up the team and the players we pick. All of the best teams in the World right press high up the field England spend the earlier part of most games sitting off with two limited midfield players players exchanging sideways and backwards passes with the centre backs. Even an utterly terrible Scotland team pressed better than us for 45 minutes.

Have you been drinking?

Compo · **Posted:** Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:43 pm

The scariest stat is that England are unbeaten in their past 33 qualifying matches (W25 D8) since a 1-0 defeat by Ukraine in October 2009. shows we play nobodies get to competitive matches and just crumble.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Compo wrote:

The scariest stat is that England are unbeaten in their past 33 qualifying matches (W25 D8) since a 1-0 defeat by Ukraine in October 2009. shows we play nobodies get to competitive matches and just crumble.

I don't think it's scary, we have had worse England teams than this group of players. Technically we have some good players, in terms of touch and pure football ability we're quite well off and that department we just have no idea how to build a team out of the pool of players we have. We aren't great defensively these days the centre backs are good on the ball but are poor in terms of pretty basic defending. So why would you sit and play at slow tempo with two holding midfielders inviting a team onto to? Especially against a terrible team like Scotland.

born toulouse · **Posted:** Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:03 am

I just had a chat with Pep Guardiola about the match and he said it was a bit shit but he'd seen England play a lot shitter so it was basically OK. Fair comment, but he kept giggling and eating haggis tapas the whole time so i'm not sure he was totally serious.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Sterling was awful last night, anyone who hasn't seen Pep's frustration with Sterling hasn't seen a City game this season as it's every week. He does have potential, that why he's so annoying. He makes the wrong decision more often than not. He was much more effective for Liverpool I thought at least in his first season in the team.

As for the game, the result is obviously what matters, the scoreline highlights the difference in quality but they were better organised and as mentioned pressed much better. Scott Brown was awful yet the commentary claimed he was good, he was pedestrian second half and pretty much being carried by the team. Morrison and Snodgrass were their only half decent players but even they lacked composure around the England box.

I worry about Tuesday night but it's only a friendly and we've always played better on the break against better opposition.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

England have very few world class players. In fact we have no players that would get in anyones world team and probably not in a squad of 30.

Lallana is getting there. Wilshire would be if he could stay fit. Alli could be. Stones will be but he has so much to learn.

Apart from that..........

Oh and rooney was shite. Again.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Lallana's improvement under Klopp has been remarkable. Has a purpose to his game now rather than a few tricks and dribbles.

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

Bunker rule No.101 Rooney is always shite .

Sterling is embarrassing .. He's so one dimensional

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pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

offshorepoolie wrote:

Bunker rule No.101 Rooney is always shite .

Sterling is embarrassing .. He's so one dimensional

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PJ says you're clueless as him and Pep think he's great.

Brian Honour's Left Foot · **Posted:** Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:20 pm

Am I the only one who wants to give Sturridge an 'attitude slap'?

Yossarian · **Joined:** Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:29 pm **Posts:** 801

It's a strange one with England, obviously they're so disappointing at tournaments but that utter aberration against Iceland was their only defeat in about twenty competitive games. They've also beaten Germany, France & Portugal in the last year. I think they're far from being great but I think if you take out the worst performance I've ever seen against Iceland they're moving in the right direction.
I hear people say things like "this is the worst England team ever", they obviously didn't have to endure England teams featuring legends like Carlton Palmer, Andy Sinton and Geoff Thomas.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Gone for 2-1 England, Lallana first scorer at 85/1.

Can only see us outplayed but hopefully that means we can play to our strength, using pace on the break.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Piss easy this betting lark...

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

2-0 now

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Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Enjoying this. Playing well

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pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Just me wanting a Spain goal then?

It really has been a decent game, it generally is against teams expected to beat us comfortably though. It's the shite like Scotland we struggle to impress against.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

pooliecrab wrote:

Gone for 2-1 England, Lallana first scorer at 85/1.

Can only see us outplayed but hopefully that means we can play to our strength, using pace on the break.

Great call

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ElvisC · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:55 am **Posts:** 4504

Get in!!!!

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Pure luck, never expected Lallana to take the penner either.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Unlucky

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pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Well that's disappointing.

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

2-2 ...ffs

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Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Spain bringing on xisco and moratta probably helped too like.

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Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

Pretty decent performance by England that. The score doesn't really matter in friendlies and conceding goals after 6 of the starting 11 have gone off is neither here nor there.

There's a chance the World Cup Finals under Southgate will be less embarrassing than they were nailed on to be under Fat Sam.

Who can ask for more?

poolie1966 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:55 am **Posts:** 1182

I had England to win & BTTS, useless so & so's cost me a few quid

Zippy · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:37 am **Posts:** 265

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father wrote:

Pretty decent performance by England that. The score doesn't really matter in friendlies and conceding goals after 6 of the starting 11 have gone off is neither here nor there.

There's a chance the World Cup Finals under Southgate will be less embarrassing than they were nailed on to be under Fat Sam.

Who can ask for more?

Oliver Twist.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:17 pm

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father wrote:

There's a chance the World Cup Finals under Southgate will be less embarrassing than they were nailed on to be under Fat Sam.

I like the way you say that as though we've never failed to qualify.

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