I really despair at the people of this country.

Huge cuts to public spending, and we're all being told that it is to reduce the deficit by our 'superiors'.

It then turns out that these cuunts are personally dodging tax by hiding money offshore, and what happens? Fuuck all. There should be massive angry mobs storming parliament, demanding heads on stakes.

I concur Mr PIN, the problem being if the higher echelons of society found out about the revolt they would probably bring in a stake tax so us normal folk couldn't afford them. Probably also an angry, mob and storming tax! The tax collected I would assume would NOT be given to the NHS or Education etc.

No, Corbyn gets negative publicity because he's a utter twat pedaling the same policies that have failed each and every time Labour were in power pre Blair. He does this whilst jumping on any bandwagon that is anti British. He is the ultimate political correctness monger who will happily find an excuse why any non white kills, thieves or illegally enters the country.

If that arsehole ever gets the keys to power then you really will see the country go to the dogs. Fortunately there are enough people in the country (and his party) that will not allow that to happen.

Next election it'll be Boris v Corbyn, a no contest. The left can't even rely on the anti Osbourne sentiment.


He will never get elected as PM. See Kinnock, Milliband and Foot for reference.

See Greece, Iceland and Spain for how things can change. You could throw in the way the SNP has shifttd Scottish politics as well. Corbyn is way to the left of the three Labour leaders you mention and he relies on a totally different approach to campaign building. He basically by-passes the press and is building support through social media and old style organisation building which seems sensible to me because the papers will never back him.

I'm not saying it will work but the fact Kinnock, Milliband and Foot failed doesn't prove it won't. Recent successes from nowhere for anti-austerity parties might give a better clue but he isn't exactly the same as them either. Interesting to see how somebody who goes against the established electoral wisdom of the last 20 years gets on though.

Good to see back John..

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Well lets give the Spanish a chance to to destroy things. The left wing government has only been in power a couple of months and even then only through a wholly fragmented mass coalition. As for Iceland - irrelevant! population 6. And Greece as an example!!! are you serious? They've been a basket case for years, even before the collapse of their economy. SNP? a very different agenda and failed to win the referendum that they have been crying out for since their party began.

The point is that to the overwhelming majority of sensible voters, Corbyn is a left wing extremist. He will not, cannot be elected. This is not about how he publicises himself, its about how he thinks. How he makes friends with the IRA. How his obsession with 1970's policies would push the country into oblivion. His belief that the treasury is a bottomless pit or by upping taxes of a few well heeled will pay for his socialist utopia. Each time he gets on his hind legs he is proposing to spend another few billion. Jeez, even his own parlimentary party know he's unelectable.

His 'maximum wage' policy is straight out of Lenin's manifestos. He wants to nationalise industries - again 1970's nonsense.

He is ridiculous to the mainstream. A kind of Michael Foot without the intelligence. He is doomed to failure. As indeed are Labour's propspects of power until Hilary Benn takes over.

Well of course it would come. He's big mates with Marty & Gerry.

Gerry Adams seems like a top guy on twitter, no surprise Jez is mates with him.

So are we saying here that its better to be run by greedy, do as I say and not as I do Tory rich kids, than anything else?

Oh do we love to make ourselves worse off in this country dont we?

As long as there is someone worse off than us, then we are happy not be winning the race to the bottom.

I would love to see anarchy, but we never will. And I am as guilty as anyone for ensuring we never will.

I hope millions join this march and cause utter carnage.

But then of course, the Police will wade in and defend the toffs, and their safe havens.

Which is odd, because most of the police are working class folk, but seem to be the main tool used by the toffs for keeping the them and us status quo.

I dont how any police officer can sleep at night knowing this.

What utter bollox and hypocrisy, I bet there isn't a person on this board who hasn't done a job for a back hander or been grateful for someone who did a cash in hand job that will be devoid of income tax and VAT.

You think?

I can absolutely that I have never done a job for a backhander.

Not because I am honest though. No fucker would pay me to botch up any job.

But its quite funny that you try to compare someone on the breadline doing a job for someone for a tenner, with the filthy rich and their tax havens in various countrys.

I bet Caneron would love you.

In preference to Corybn, yes.

but you dont know that it is better. You just think it will be.

And how bad do you really thinkit could be?

Its a pretty awful country now if we were all being honest. Unless you are minted.

The outrage rhetoric pours out on this board and most of you choose to avoid seeing we all do tax avoidance things.

Except of course in this instance Cameron has broken no law but you are still outraged, but every time you enter the black economy you aid and abet someone to evade paying tax, a criminal offence. A bad case of double standards on the outrage bus.

Really?

I mean, really really?

So we are all equal in your eyes then?

and ask yourself this.

If normal working class tommy avoids tax, even if its £100, the taxman will hunt him down and prosecute.

If a multi national multi billion firm does it, they dont.

Do you think thats fair and reasonable?

Thats a fact jack.

and you must have the morals of a slug to work for the IR and partake in this.

Worse than coppers.

and traffic wardens
Prison officers
Fotball club Chief executives.

That last one was just for GeoffN to be outraged on facebook.

But Chip, if you repair your grandmas window, and she gives you a tenner, you are just as bad.....according to some.

I'm not outraged, I think the hypocrisy demonstrated on here is quite amusing. Mainly because the main protagonists can't see it (or choose to ignore it) and would prefer to espouse class warfare rhetoric regardless.

All utterly pointless of course because it won't change a thing on either side of the argument.

How very sad, yet very true.

Even sadder though is that plenty of working class people dont want it to change.

The 'leader' of our country denied it 24 hours before....how can he be trusted ever again?!?!

He's a lying bastard ..End of..and idiots think this acceptable.. Wish we where more like the Icelanders. .but we're not and that's why we allow ourselves to be ran be these selfish twats. Equating someone geyting paid a few bob for a favour to the kind of industrial tax evasion perpetrated by Cameron and his mob is moronic ..Remember "Only poor people pay tax"...

is aptid even real?

Worst comparison ever

Spain has a mechanism for allowing new kids on the block to win seats. The UK hasn't unless the regions gang up together.

Last time they did that a bloke called Franco gained power.

Well, fortunately Franco is dead now, so he can't do it again.

I think regions ganging up is a good idea, in fact I've suggested it myself on another board. People there pointed out that arranging this would be an uphill battle (eg people would be put off joining their regional group if it looked as if they'd be aligning themselves with 'left-wingers'; again, if the regional groups looked as if they might be successful, they'd be swiftly curtailed, much as the unions were.)

I still think it's a good idea, though. Interested parties, sign here.