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I'll give you a tenner if our lass turns the tap off.

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All the power companies are kicking our arses. As long as you don't use the 'local' leccy company and British Gas you'll be saving money. Go on Uswitch.com and you might get a better deal


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Elvis Costellos Glasses wrote:
Sweet Jesu!

Npower have just hit me with a bill for a THOUSAND POUNDS for Electric and Gas! Been paying £70 per month, now it's gonna go up to £166 to make up the underpayment!

Freaking hell, our Lass will have to go Full-Time and I'm gonna have to sell my ass.


......and there is another price rise coming today!!


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And I thought the original £70 per month was a bit much :shock:


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Elvis Costellos Glasses wrote:
Sweet Jesu!

Npower have just hit me with a bill for a THOUSAND POUNDS for Electric and Gas! Been paying £70 per month, now it's gonna go up to £166 to make up the underpayment!

Freaking hell, our Lass will have to go Full-Time and I'm gonna have to sell my ass.


Ring them with your current reading and they will then say "oh sorry we got that wrong" and send you a correct bill out for you.

Believe me this works. :wink:

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And I thought the original £70 per month was a bit much :shock:


A bit much?

I pay about £50/m gas + £25/m electric.

Check your bill Mr Fens or you might find yourself in Elvis' boat!

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We had a statement through last month and they owe us about £7.

I pay £24 per month for electric and £35 per month for gas

I think that I am fairly lucky only having the boiler that runs on gas especially the way the prices the keep rising.


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Fensy wrote:
We had a statement through last month and they owe us about £7.

I pay £24 per month for electric and £35 per month for gas

I think that I am fairly lucky only having the boiler that runs on gas especially the way the prices the keep rising.


It's only our hot water and heating boiler that runs on gas too Mr F. Do you camp in one room in winter wearing hats and coats or what?

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Don't know why we pay a canny bit less than you then, I know we changed fairly recently to Southern Electric maybe that is why.


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bah you lot don't know your born ...
when we were kids we had a candle and when it was really really cold our dad would let us light it........


try telling kids that today they don't believe u ya knows.........

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This thread can't go on without a mention of our lasses mam and dads fridge/house.

They live outside Glasgow, but in the countryside, about 2 miles from the nearest pubs/shops. Their house is a couple of hundred year old farm cottage, lovely building, but not the best for keeping warm.

When we go up for xmas, I am never as cold anywhere else, even stood on a terrace at somewhere like Scunthorpe on a Tuesday night in January. The bedroom we kip in often gets ice on the inside of the windows.

They are not used to heating the whole house, and they love to save a few bob. As long as the fire in the front room is on it doesn't matter that there are icicles in the bathroom.

Last year I couldn't take any more and I decided to turn the radiators up in the bedroom. I saw that it was only on setting 2 out of five! When I tried to turn the nob to full whack I couldn't cos it had been painted stuck. It must have been like that for years!

Her mam has shockingly bad arthritis, and she wonders why. They aren't poor, but are just used to freezing every winter. It's taken years to break this pattern of behaviour with our lass too. I think it's a cultural thing, not just Scottish, but a philosophy of tightness that means they deny themselves things like warmth and comfort in order to prove something. I believe it is related to a branch of Protestantism called Calvinism, which is all based on the virtues of hardship and endurance. Crackers the lot of them! Get the heating whacked right up!


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Get the heating whacked right up!


Yeah Fensy, yer tight git!

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If you are talking tight I know a lad from work who is on a water meter so he gets showered at work and tries to go to the toilet as often as possible to save flushes when he goes home.


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poolieinnottingham wrote:
I believe it is related to a branch of Protestantism called Calvinism, which is all based on the virtues of hardship and endurance.

As anyone who has seen Breaking the Waves will confirm.


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bah, don't get me started on this subject!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: rage rage rage rage rage


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bah, don't get me started on this subject!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: rage rage rage rage rage


what breaking waves?

u want to talk to some one about it..........?

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we have one of them card charger things for gas

they sent us a letter yoday saying 10quids worth will last 5 days...... :shock:


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we have one of them card charger things for gas


Get it straight out!

Unless you have a debt with the gas, request that they remove the card meter and stick a normal one in. You get charged a 'service' tariff by card meters, but not a lot of people know about it. Theiving swines!


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we phoned em to take it out cos the old 1 had loadsa debt on it, then they put a new one in!! we asked em to get rid of that one and are still waiting!

fr igging con it is rage


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we phoned em to take it out cos the old 1 had loadsa debt on it, then they put a new one in!! we asked em to get rid of that one and are still waiting!


I'm sure Energy Watch have a guideline thing for removal - it used to be 48 hours or something like that. Threaten your energy supplier with that and you might even get 20 quid compensation to shut you up.


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will do

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chip fireball wrote:
dont want to get tooooo political on this but the point of privatisation was to make things better for the consumer. we were initially given choice and savings. since then the regionals have been gobbled up by multinationals.

npower is an amalgamation of nothern, yorkshire and midland electric boards.

powergen is an amalgam of north western, eastern and east midlands.

edf is an amalgam of south west, south wales and london.

npower owned by the germans rwe, take over 2 yeras ago.

powergen owned by eon another foreign company 2 and a half years ago.

edf is a french/canadian concern. take over was 3 years ago.

british gas owned by centrica, french company.

about 2 years ago once the big 4 as they are known effectively swallowed the oppsition we suddenly got 25 percent year on years rises. "what can we do" they bleat," wholesale energy costs are going up. we are all having to pass the cost on to the consumer." yet they are all making record profits.

we are now getting shafted by foriegn multinationals for products we once all owned. the only real british benefactors were those rich enough to buy shares when the industry was privatised i.e. the filthy rich. we are being shafted and there is nothing we can do about it. the regulator is neither use nor ornament.

elvis switch to scottish power or scottish and southern. pay by direct debit and provide quarterly meter readings online.


Centrica arent French, they sound French, but they arent, Centrica was an off shoot of BG

http://www.centrica.co.uk/index.asp?pageid=16&year=1997

I just finished a one year contract for them and they are bricking it because they think the Russians are trying to take over

Another reason why gas is so expensive is because its all shipped in from abroad, because we have used most of the offshore british gas

Perhaps if the goverment (whichever one is in power) made it law that each new house is fitted with solar panels and wind generating capacity


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Not many people will have heard of these but the cheapest company is a company called Equipower and Equigas. They're a non profit organisation run by Scottish and Southern. Although they've just announced a price increase (like everybody else), they are still far cheaper. No standing charges and no two tier price structure.

I joined up with them last week....they'll save you hundreds.


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pre payment is on average 15 per cent more expensive than paying by bill and about 20 per cent more than paying by direct debit. the utility companies justify this by saying that they have to recover the cost of having top up machines in local outlets. of course the local outlets such as gillens love them as well. for every tenner you are sticking on your card and key, they click money.


The reason they are on pre-pay is because they neglected to pay their bills in the first place


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You often have to pay to switch over to a credit meter though (although its worth it).

EDF are the only company not to have a service charge on prepayment meters and are fairly cheap in this area.


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They've asked if we have any large appliances. I said the only things we have that are different to most households are Liv's Wheelchair charger (which is on overnight), her hoists in the Bathroom and her bedroom (which get used twice a day) and my Jukebox, which is only on when I switch it on. It's got to be wrong, Christ we only live in a bungalow.

We should have been paying £120 a month apparently, but as they never told us that, it's our fault and we have to shell out. What a joke.

This could seriously affect my appearances at Away games.



I work in the industry as a team manager for a rival firm and you aren't the only person that Npower have taken for a ride. They now only send statements to some residents in TS on a 6 month basis so many people are unaware that the payments aren't covering the bill. Npower are renound for letting people go into debt far more than any other company, if you have a spare grand (which not many people do) you could pay the balance and find an alternative.

In the north east anyone who is paying British Gas, Npower or Powergen or a combination of the 3 is simply paying over the top. Npower and British Gas are taking advantage of the fact that peple aren't switching, they are taking advantages of customer loyalty and customer apathy and getting away with raising prices.

None of the companys are perfect and there never is a perfect time to switch as they all raise prices but like has been mentioned if you pay either Scottish & Southern or Scottish Power you aren't going far wrong.

And another thing to make everyone sick is that wholesale gas prices are apparently going to drop next year however it looks very unlikely that the customer will benefit from this.


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Elvis Costellos Glasses wrote:
They've asked if we have any large appliances. I said the only things we have that are different to most households are Liv's Wheelchair charger (which is on overnight), her hoists in the Bathroom and her bedroom (which get used twice a day) and my Jukebox, which is only on when I switch it on. It's got to be wrong, Christ we only live in a bungalow.

We should have been paying £120 a month apparently, but as they never told us that, it's our fault and we have to shell out. What a joke.

This could seriously affect my appearances at Away games.



I work in the industry as a team manager for a rival firm and you aren't the only person that Npower have taken for a ride. They now only send statements to some residents in TS on a 6 month basis so many people are unaware that the payments aren't covering the bill. Npower are renound for letting people go into debt far more than any other company, if you have a spare grand (which not many people do) you could pay the balance and find an alternative.

In the north east anyone who is paying British Gas, Npower or Powergen or a combination of the 3 is simply paying over the top. Npower and British Gas are taking advantage of the fact that peple aren't switching, they are taking advantages of customer loyalty and customer apathy and getting away with raising prices.

None of the companys are perfect and there never is a perfect time to switch as they all raise prices but like has been mentioned if you pay either Scottish & Southern or Scottish Power you aren't going far wrong.

And another thing to make everyone sick is that wholesale gas prices are apparently going to drop next year however it looks very unlikely that the customer will benefit from this.


The beauty of uswitch these days is that it takes about 5 minutes and after that you don't have to do a thing. You could easy save yourself 100-150 quid a year (especially if you're BG), its free money in your pocket...kind of

Have you heard much about equigas that I mentioned above?


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I actually work for Scottish & Southern but I know very little about Equigas, all I've heard is that it gives a 'fair' price for all regardless of payment method so you aren't penalised for having a pre payment meter.

In 2 and a half years working in the industry i have only spoken to 2 people who use that particular tariff.


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Here's a 'Power Bill' for yeh....

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To be honest we're all being fleeced paying for stuff that really belong to us already..

To think of the revenue the gorvernment could be having now..

We have a lot to thank Maggie Thatcher for we do!!

And if we still owned the oil gas and ellecy system maybe I would get holidays like everyone else!! rage rage

This electricity busienss is nothing to do with Lady Thatcher. It's a EU initiative.


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chip fireball wrote:
while i agree that most people on pre payment are on it because of debt, there a lot of people on pre pay because that was the method of payment used by the previous occupier. if you move into a house where pre pay meters are installed most companies will take them out if you agree to pay by direct debit. one of the few exceptions is britisg gas who are loathe to take out pre-pay meters, especially leccy ones as the work is done bt the regional distributor ( in this area nedl) and they have to pick up the tab.

if you are on pre pay and in debt then you are being well and truly shafted as almost all companies wont let you leave until the debt is paid off. and most companies wont take you on if you are in debt.

anyone in this area using british gas and/or npower is being systematically fleeced. and i really do mean fleeced.


You dont have to pay for a previous debt though!

You tell them when you moved in, which is quite easy to prove and Roberts your mothers live in lover


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chip fireball wrote:
pre payment is on average 15 per cent more expensive than paying by bill and about 20 per cent more than paying by direct debit. the utility companies justify this by saying that they have to recover the cost of having top up machines in local outlets. of course the local outlets such as gillens love them as well. for every tenner you are sticking on your card and key, they click money.


The reason they are on pre-pay is because they neglected to pay their bills in the first place


err no
the people before us never paid their bill

we asked for their meter to be taken out and they stuck one in on us.......

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GAS PRICES ARE STARTING TO DROP NOW! The new Norwegian filed just came on line and i;'s production is expected to be twice that expected. The problem...? shareholder dividends?


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rage rage rage rage rage

from 66 combined to nigh on 120 - at last our lass agrees - if its cold PUT A FOOKIN JUMPER AND SOME SOCKS ON YOU DOZY BLIRT. - and the fookin heating - she also tumble drys in the summer..... rage

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GAS PRICES ARE STARTING TO DROP NOW! The new Norwegian filed just came on line and i;'s production is expected to be twice that expected. The problem...? shareholder dividends?


There is a new pipeline comes on stream next year too which will see prices fall.

Just checked my bank account, I pay BG £31/m electric and £47/m gas and I hardly use owt, there's only the two of us live there and we are both out at work all day with everything switched off!!!

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