Ronnie Moores 1970's coaching manual

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Jones for Franks was the only change needed. Not sure what his thinking was with the others. Jones will never be a left back and his distribution is shocking. Not sure what's up with Tshibola these last few games either, right off the boil and as usual one shot on target is enough to score against us, even pea rollers go past the clown.

A must win game and no fucker turned up or looked like they were remotely bothered.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37791

1970's...? ?..more like1870's.

Andy McAvoy's Bleached Barnet · **Joined:** Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:46 am **Posts:** 357

I think we have a lot more to worry about other than if Moore will be our manager next season.

bugginout · **Joined:** Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:20 pm **Posts:** 164

i remember him criticising the team earlier in the season for playing too long, said he had not told them to do so. think he has to take the blame today, how can you expect anything other than route one football when you pick two slow target men 6ft2 6ft4

Andy McAvoy's Bleached Barnet · **Joined:** Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:46 am **Posts:** 357

His signings have been largely shit but I don't blame him for the shite we're in. None of us should. He's tried but like everyone else connected with the club it's not been good enough. I think he cares and I'll not think anything bad of him when we fuck off to obscurity

No need to state it but Ken and Russ, it's all on you....... take a bow you bunch of fucking wankstains

HonestPoolie · **Joined:** Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:46 pm **Posts:** 663

I like Moore on the whole, I don't agree with him being on the radio blaming the conditions though

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Chip Fireball wrote:

Cant he use something a bit more up to date ?

The thought of watching more 4-4-2 hoofball under him in The Conference next season is depressing. Horrific team selection, and tactically, absolutely fucking clueless.

"Players lose you games, not tactics. There's too much crap talked about tactics by people who barely know how to win a game of dominoes."

alibarthez · **Joined:** Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:06 pm **Posts:** 1072

I like Moore I would keep faith with him.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

You're quite good at missing the point.

You could play good players in a 442 and they would probably be a good team.

You can put the shite Pools have in ANY tactics and they'd still be heartless, useless shite.

Go on then tell me that's wrong and how you're more knowledgeable than one of the most successful English coaches.

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:50 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

I spoke to Duckworth briefly after the game. If he ever packs in playing he has a potential career as a diplomat.

We have to win, and we play Austin ahead of Duckworth, and start with Harewood ? Words fail me, just hope he isn't manager next season.

A guy sat behind me said Duckworth dropped for turning up at training smelling of drink!!

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Chip Fireball wrote:

Not sure what language you are speaking there, it looks vaguely like English ?

So because I managed to write 'good' instead of 'go' I can't write English?
Well done on avoiding the point.

klinger · **Joined:** Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:27 pm **Posts:** 1589

pooliecrab wrote:

Chip Fireball wrote:

Cant he use something a bit more up to date ?

The thought of watching more 4-4-2 hoofball under him in The Conference next season is depressing. Horrific team selection, and tactically, absolutely fucking clueless.

"Players lose you games, not tactics. There's too much crap talked about tactics by people who barely know how to win a game of dominoes."

Absolutely correct. We don't have good enough players regardless of formation. Duckworth has been found out this season defensively and the player who replaced him today could defend.
They won the game today on a single piece of skill.

klinger · **Joined:** Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:27 pm **Posts:** 1589

To win games it also helps not to concede.
Duckworth is a defender, his primary job is to defend, anything else he does is a bonus.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Chip Fireball wrote:

I was thinking more about this comment :

" You can put the shite Pools have in ANY tactics "

That makes no sense whatsoever, but don't bother trying to explain, because to be honest I'm not interested. You have said tactics don't have a bearing on results. That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Don't think theres a manager or coach in Britain would agree with you like, but like I say you entitled to an opinion.

Where have I said tactics have no bearing on results? Any variant on the pitch obviously has a bearing but the effect tactics have is minimal in comparison to the players being played in them. Tactics can help a small team beat a big team on occasion but the vast majority of times the big team wins.
Again you've twisted my words to fit your point. Thanks for inviting me not to bother to explain but I'll give you as much opportunity to see sense as I can.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

I didn't say that. It was a quote from Brian Clough.

But to me "Players lose you games, not tactics." implies that players have more of a bearing than tactics do. NOT that they have no bearing at all like you're claiming I've said.
As for the rest of the quote it's just Brian Clough's way of getting his point across in an abrasive way. Remind you of anyone? Maybe you should be our next manager Chip!

billythefisherman · **Joined:** Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:40 am **Posts:** 388

Moore is very old school obviously. He has baffled me and infuriated me with some, no most of his decisions and team selection. I actually thought he was a bit more progressive initially, he tried different systems in pursuit of a winning formula. He actually found a winning formula and we looked impressive in a game ( Cheltenham ), on the back of that he changed things round again and the result was a dire to 0 defeat. Since then he has tried this horrific 442 dross, which has actually gotten us 2 hard fought home victories but equally about 5 or 6 losses, almost exclusively to nil.
I'm just mystified that he hasn't reverted to the formula that made us look good. His team set ups have been awfully negative, thats what bothers me.
I dont want a season watching turgid old school football next season no matter what division we are in.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Chip should be the next Pools manager.

Kirsty · **Joined:** Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:39 pm **Posts:** 271

Baffled by team selection. At home Duckworth has to play and while Dan Jones has done Ok at centre back I haven't seen him play a decent game at left back for months.

Herewood should never have started ahead of young Connor Smith and Featherstone/Tsibola as a midfield pair at home have no attacking flair.

I thought Jordan Jones had a good first half but was poor after the break and should have been subbed rather than Compton.

Having said all of this we didn't deserve to be beaten, nor did we deserve to win but draws at home are no good at this stage of the season.

I know I keep harping on about Keiron Green but he's got some bite and fight about him which we desperately need at the moment.

I like most of what Ronnie Moore has done so far but think he got the team selection badly wrong today but appreciate his options are limited after losing Woods, Fenwick and Bingham.

Wommers · **Posted:** Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:31 am

I'm possibly slow on the uptake here, but is "kirsty" really "Andy Dibble's Gloves"? same new paragraph thing going on for every new sentence.

horden · **Posted:** Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:53 pm

You need to score to win games, but you won't lose a game if you don't concede. Problem is HUFC can do neither it seems, which I suppose what the OP was getting at.

Axing Duckworth was a mistake. We have a team who cant win two games on the bounce, players who cant have two good games on the bounce, some only have one good game in ten and others never have a good game. For Moore its just a case of playing the correct players at the correct time, hoping that he will catch that particular player/players having that odd good game. Unfortunately his guesswork is going horribly wrong. I thought he played the wrong team at Dagenham on Tuesday and again today.

Another pattern developing is Moore seems a bit over keen imo to drop players at the drop of a hat, how long before the dressing room turn on him?. In my mind he has never liked Walker since day one, he has dropped others on a regular basis . Now I know they are all mostly crap and deserve to be dropped, but sometimes it is better to persevere and tell a player, you were sh*t today but I want you to go out and prove me wrong in the next game. Moore seems to be losing the plot and punishing players rather than concentrating on getting the best out of them, as difficult as that may be, and I understand his frustration. He is old skool and uses psychology a lot, the other week he was praising Compton, saying he could be the player to keep us up if he upped his game. This was pure mind games, what he meant to say was he could be a good player if he wasn't such a bad player courtesy of being a stroppy/sulking git. Don't think it worked Ronnie, who next for the drop? Tshibola? Featherstone?. Another thing, if a team has no leaders, why make your goalkeeper captain? can't think of many struggling teams whose goalie was captain, its usually a luxury only teams at the top can afford.

Brian Honour's Left Foot · **Posted:** Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:13 pm

horden wrote:

You need to score to win games, but you won't lose a game if you don't concede. Problem is HUFC can do neither it seems, which I suppose what the OP was getting at.

Axing Duckworth was a mistake. We have a team who cant win two games on the bounce, players who cant have two good games on the bounce, some only have one good game in ten and others never have a good game. For Moore its just a case of playing the correct players at the correct time, hoping that he will catch that particular player/players having that odd good game. Unfortunately his guesswork is going horribly wrong. I thought he played the wrong team at Dagenham on Tuesday and again today.

Another pattern developing is Moore seems a bit over keen imo to drop players at the drop of a hat, how long before the dressing room turn on him?. In my mind he has never liked Walker since day one, he has dropped others on a regular basis . Now I know they are all mostly crap and deserve to be dropped, but sometimes it is better to persevere and tell a player, you were sh*t today but I want you to go out and prove me wrong in the next game. Moore seems to be losing the plot and punishing players rather than concentrating on getting the best out of them, as difficult as that may be, and I understand his frustration. He is old skool and uses psychology a lot, the other week he was praising Compton, saying he could be the player to keep us up if he upped his game. This was pure mind games, what he meant to say was he could be a good player if he wasn't such a bad player courtesy of being a stroppy/sulking git. Don't think it worked Ronnie, who next for the drop? Tshibola? Featherstone?. Another thing, if a team has no leaders, why make your goalkeeper captain? can't think of many struggling teams whose goalie was captain, its usually a luxury only teams at the top can afford.

Agree Mr Horden - and I question Uncle Ronnie in the Fail - yes, we were naive - and we all know that someone should have taken one for the team to stop the goal - but who is naive in actually saying that in the Press?

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:54 pm

3 players started on the bench today who I feel should have started on the pitch... Smith, Duckworth and Walker.

I feel Walker offers a lot more than Featherstone, we need goals and Walker has a goal in him. Featherstone gets a nose bleed when he goes over the halfway line and almost seems scared to pass it forward. Yes he seems a bit of a tidy footballer, but anyone can come across as a tidy football if they control it and pass it sideways which he seems to be an expert at.

Smith was superb last week against Wimbledon, reminded me of when Luke James burst onto the scene, Harewood is weak, jumps at the wrong time and is just a big useless Homer Simpson lookalike.

Duckworth likes to get forward and can take a man on, he also has the speed to go back and forth the line. Austin hasn't had a good season for a few year now and needs dropping... permanently.

We have been unlucky losing Bingham, Fenwick and Woods. We would have a much better chance of staying up with those in the team.

Rose-Tinted-Specs · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:27 pm **Posts:** 50

[quote="Chip Fireball"]Looking back over the last 15 year or so there have been attacking players I've enjoyed watching, Watson, Williams, Boyd , Porter, Brown, O'Donovan, James, Gabbiadini, etc.

There's also been a load in recent years such as Behan, Bjornsson, Howard, Nish, Harewood, who simply haven't really done much for us, all big target men, for want of a phrase, that we have lumped balls up to. They have been very hard to watch and largely useless.

The last big old fashioned strikers we had in that mould who even remotely delivered were Daly and Barker.

I don't personally believe Nish was either a big old fashioned striker or given much of a chance. With the current situation, we could play Messi Neymar and Ronaldo up front together and without service they'd do nothing either.Something both Barker and Daly received far more regularly than one in five games.
Also, I do believe it is difficult to be critical of a guy's tactics at other clubs when his record speaks for itself at those clubs. You mentioned Pulis, but Allardyce too. You might not like the tactics but they get results. Much like perhaps Ronnie Moore teams of the past have done in your opinion. Our team is so desperately lacking in confidence, quality, and in some cases effort. Clearly something happened with Duckworth between Tuesday and Saturday that made Duckworth droppable and I thought Featherstone was solid enough yesterday. Tshibola was poor but, in a way, I feel a bit for the lad. He started playing alongside Bates and Woods in midfield with Bingham's pace ahead of him. None of those players are in the side at the moment.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Any manager who drops the best player especially in a relegation battle is a fucking moron

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

Any manager who drops the best player especially in a relegation battle is a fucking moron

Equally any manager that still thinks having two big lumps up front is the future is also a moron.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Duckworth has been nowhere near our best player in recent months, I think its harsh to leave him out but he's been nowhere near the level he's been previously.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

I'm not sure I've seen him slating any players publicly that's a bit of a myth.

As for screaming every time he crosses the half way line that's not actually true either I was behind the dug out for a bit against Wimbledon and he was screaming at him to get forward more.

klinger · **Joined:** Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:27 pm **Posts:** 1589

At the end of the day, Duckworth has cost us a few times this season with school boy errors, at critical points in the games.
The defence on Saturday were solid against a team at the top of the table. Unfortunately they got a breakaway goal when our defenders were at the other end of pitch trying to get us one.
Featherstone I thought had a decent game but wasn't wise enough to take their player out and concede the free kick before he had chance to run at us.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Chip Fireball wrote:

klinger wrote:

At the end of the day, Duckworth has cost us a few times this season with school boy errors, at critical points in the games.
The defence on Saturday were solid against a team at the top of the table. Unfortunately they got a breakaway goal when our defenders were at the other end of pitch trying to get us one.
Featherstone I thought had a decent game but wasn't wise enough to take their player out and concede the free kick before he had chance to run at us.

Austin has been at fault for a lot more goals than Duckworth- FACT.

We needed to win the game not draw it 0-0 - FACT

Duckworth gives us an attacking option Austin does not- FACT.

Austin wasnt at the other end of the pitch when they scored their breakaway goal, he was actually the last defender- FACT.

Duckworths pace probably would have caught their guy too.

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

Interesting thread. Ronnie Moore has done a good job since he joined the club in December, improving results beyond a previously dire level (12 points in 19 league games) and instilling some much needed organisation and self-belief in the team. Unfortunately, results in the last week have proved beyond doubt that he's not going to be a miracle worker, any more than John Hughes was able to stave off relegation from League One a couple of seasons ago.

Pools were gubbed the minute Woods joined Fenwick on the long-term injury list. The squad just isn't good enough to get results without its best attacker and best midfielder. For that matter, if ever Bates and Miller get fit they will likely walk straight into the first eleven. Even Parnaby might get another 25 minutes before the end of the season!

Right now what Moore is doing is rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic - fans can argue with individual selections but seriously, is any of it a game changer? Ronnie does look to be running out of ideas - when he's reduced to hailing Jordan Jones' very average contribution as the one positive from the Burton game he must be getting desperate!

Personally I thought the only decent performances were from Mirfin, Harrison and Bird - who may be a beanpole but is definitely not a big lump and nowt like lump-of-the-season Marlon in playing style.

marcus richardsons third leg · **Joined:** Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:04 pm **Posts:** 446

Chip Fireball wrote:

klinger wrote:

At the end of the day, Duckworth has cost us a few times this season with school boy errors, at critical points in the games.
The defence on Saturday were solid against a team at the top of the table. Unfortunately they got a breakaway goal when our defenders were at the other end of pitch trying to get us one.
Featherstone I thought had a decent game but wasn't wise enough to take their player out and concede the free kick before he had chance to run at us.

Austin has been at fault for a lot more goals than Duckworth- FACT.

We needed to win the game not draw it 0-0 - FACT

Duckworth gives us an attacking option Austin does not- FACT.

Austin wasnt at the other end of the pitch when they scored their breakaway goal, he was actually the last defender- FACT.

Austin turns up for training - FACT

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

Ronnie's record is a bit better than Colin Cooper's (15 points from 16 games against 8 from 11) but I won't argue that things aren't tailing off without Fenwick and now Woods.

I don't agree though that starting a 4-4-2 with two wide players who are pretty useless defensively and 2 up front is playing for a draw. The team was set up to attack but couldn't get going. Burton coped much better with the conditions.

Agree that there are no grounds for persisting with Harewood - as the Burton fans were keen to point out!

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4478

I dont think any of the forwards are good enough barring Fenwick. Bird has done very little in three games now apart from his goal smith looks lively but how many chances has he created or how many times has he got in goal scoring positions granted he is in a bad team and is young so potential maybe there but people saying he has been outstanding and stuff think is going a tad overboard. Then we come to Marlon and Marvin well what can you possibly say about these two. Worst football pair in the country probobly

marcus richardsons third leg · **Joined:** Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:04 pm **Posts:** 446

Them stats show what a good manager danny wilson was. Should never have sacked him.

marcus richardsons third leg · **Joined:** Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:04 pm **Posts:** 446

Was that the summer of the centenary tournament fiasco? Best 20 quid I ever spent watching Huddersfield reserves.

Brian Honour's Left Foot · **Posted:** Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:39 pm

Just re-read this and now feel very tired................

Brian Honour's Left Foot · **Posted:** Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:46 am

Chip Fireball wrote:

To be fair I cant remember posting half of what I said on this thread. Think I must have had a bet on the game in question.

My opinion hasn't changed about the 1970's coaching manual, wasn't at the game today, but what I saw the week before makes me think its gonna be another long old season.

And that's the point that I am now heartily tired of - there is no change other than backwards.............

And whilst some are questioning the owners - and I agree - how must they feel about Ronnie signing so many loanees who he then doesn't play? There's no money and he's wasting what there is....... :animals-dogrun:

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Chip Fireball wrote:

Had a couple of heated debates with friends over the last 24 hours about the club and the Trust.

The club has been badly run for a number of years both on and off the field. We have a company JPNG running the club which has three directors, Green, Goldberg, and Coxhall, none of whom on the face of it have the money to run a football club. One hopes all three aren't drawing wages from Hartlepool United, but I'm pretty sure at least two of them will be.

We are playing teams in this division who are totally or partially fans owned, who get similar gates to us, yet are better run, better managed, and have better players. That's not an opinion, its a simple fact.

Points wise we are in a better position than we were last season, but little else has changed, a point I made last month. The "performances" on the pitch are crap, a lot of the players seem de-motivated, the manager is starting to come under fire, and the owners have absolutely nothing to say to the fans, unless you happen to be in a select group that get free tickets/hospitality/tummy rubs off the CEO.

Coxhall has not only failed to show for meetings with the Supporters Trust, I also heard a rumour he has yet to set foot in the Corner Flag to meet the Supporters Association either.

All of which seems to fly in the face of what was promised 6 months ago about more openness and better communication.

Things have to change. The one constant in all of this has been Russ Green. As CEO and as a director of JPNG he now surely has to stick his head above the parapet and speak to the fans. Not just the half dozen or so he usually has around him, but all of the fans. As major investors in the club, and as the people paying his wages, we need to be told what the hell is going on, where the money from the season tickets sales, Football League, Camerons, S**eca, etc is being spent and what his company intend to do for the club long term.

Otherwise we will end up back in the shit, arguing amongst ourselves, while the club slides further down the pan.

Sums it up perfectly mr chips

I'm hearing these select few fans have already had very lengthy cosy conversations with coxall at the last home game

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PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Can't argue at all with Chips post.

On the face of it nothing has actually changed at the club, to be honest I was probably happier with Hodcroft at the helm, that could be unfair but I still know nothing about this new lot.

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:57 am

I've completely lost all interest in hufc. I don't go to games anymore, I'm only on this board fleetingly and sadly I tend to just look for the result at tea time each saturday. The club has died. On the pitch they look clueless. Admittedly I've stopped going lately but I trust the things I've been hearing from people on here and others who I've spoken to.

Off the pitch there is just nothing there. A soulless business with no "towns club" ethos whatsoever. Hufc has never been so separate to the town and the fans.

I'm far from convinced about Ronnie Moore too.

No optimism at the club whatsoever and no apparent attempt by the "new owners" to buck the trend.

The one good thing is once you stop feeling part of club you don't have your weekends spoilt by another shite performance and defeat. You can then focus on things that matter.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

many many people feel this way. And the longer you stay away, the less you miss it. To the point that you dont even check the scores.

Of course there are those that believe you should be given 10,000 lashes for not going, because in their eyes, its all that should matter in your life.

They, of course, are just very stupid.

And cant see the obvious.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12380

Gibsons Beard wrote:

I've completely lost all interest in hufc. I don't go to games anymore, I'm only on this board fleetingly and sadly I tend to just look for the result at tea time each saturday. The club has died. On the pitch they look clueless. Admittedly I've stopped going lately but I trust the things I've been hearing from people on here and others who I've spoken to.

Off the pitch there is just nothing there. A soulless business with no "towns club" ethos whatsoever. Hufc has never been so separate to the town and the fans.

I'm far from convinced about Ronnie Moore too.

No optimism at the club whatsoever and no apparent attempt by the "new owners" to buck the trend.

The one good thing is once you stop feeling part of club you don't have your weekends spoilt by another shite performance and defeat. You can then focus on things that matter.

Can't argue with that.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

The Colonel wrote:

many many people feel this way. And the longer you stay away, the less you miss it. To the point that you dont even check the scores.

Of course there are those that believe you should be given 10,000 lashes for not going, because in their eyes, its all that should matter in your life.

They, of course, are just very stupid.

And cant see the obvious.

Has anyone actually ever said that, maybe the odd person has said 'how can you comment' in a thread about a match, which is probable fair enough if you've never seen half the players even play.

For me the few who've stopped going, which is completely up to them it's a free country, make all the noise about the fact they don't and take great comfort from telling everyone at every opportunity. That might rub a couple of people up the wrong way, you can surely understand that the same as people who still go surely understand anyone's reasons for stopping?

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

You'd be surprised pj.

ElvisC · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:55 am **Posts:** 4504

I don't think I could ever "stop going" long term. I tried last season and missed four games...but it was hard to do.

That said, I COMPLETELY understand people not attending anymore. It's pretty soul-destroying watching piss poor performances for the best part of 7 seasons now.

I just expected a LOT more this season from the Owners, the team, and the Manager.

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad · **Posted:** Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:12 pm

" you can surely understand that the same as people who still go surely understand anyone's reasons for stopping?"

I'm surely finding that sentence hard to understand PJ

Seriously though, if I could rewind 3 month's knowing what I know now, my 250 bar would be staying firmly in my pocket.

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:18 pm

I probably won't go on Saturday regardless of price, I can see us getting beat.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

Yubep wrote:

I'm hearing these select few fans have already had very lengthy cosy conversations with coxall at the last home game

If that is actually true, I would love to know why those at the club think this is the way forward. Do they believe these few have any power over the rest of us? Do they believe they are the pied pipers of the football supporters world?

The more I think about it the dafter things like this just make those at the club look. If true of course.

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

Joe Mac wrote:

I probably won't go on Saturday regardless of price, I can see us getting beat.

With you there Mr. Mac. There will be a lot of crap in the papers and on radio about the Cheltenham tie being the ideal opportunity to 'get back to winning ways' - the truth is only 6 places separate Pools and Cheltenham in the League pyramid, they are enjoying a good run of form and we haven't won at home since August.

Hoping for the best but fearing the worst - I will be along for the next home League game but definitely not up for having my weekend spoiled watching another premature cup exit.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

ElvisC wrote:

I don't think I could ever "stop going" long term. I tried last season and missed four games...but it was hard to do.

That said, I COMPLETELY understand people not attending anymore. It's pretty soul-destroying watching piss poor performances for the best part of 7 seasons now.

I just expected a LOT more this season from the Owners, the team, and the Manager.

Same with me, I'll always enjoy going to the match whatever level we're at. But you can't blame anyone who has stopped and you couldn't seriously give a good argument for them returning any time soon.

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