Face facts, Pools (oldie!) are in just as much danger of relegation as they were last season.

Not yet. Put a keeper in that team and we're not far off from mid table.

Agree on the keeper but today once again showed how light weight we are midfield just dont take control of the games.
Is it the players we have got or is it down to tactics for me its got to be 352 or 532 which ever way you look at it what the F... is another winger going to add to the team that is just not what is required.

Bartlett has done a good job but the pressure seems to have got to him and he is making too many mistakes but maybe the pile of shite in defence in front him have to take the blame for his form

The defence is poor but he was terrible Tuesday and today. Their second goal was completely his fault. Carson needs to start next week if fit

The first one he should do better too. And a taller keeper would save the last one as it wasn't that far from his hand.

Carson has to come back in.

Not sure what's going on with Harrison, sick of his long ball shit all time too

Agreed trevor carson has to start at northampton next week but thats not the only change required for sure , if it wasnt for the great escape last season everyone would be shouting for ronnies head

Seems like Ronnie got a 3 year contract on the courtesy of Cheltenham n Tranmere or the more obvious one of a Chairman who knows jackshit about football and listens to Russ Green to much.

For the fanbase we got the ambition of retaining league status is a pisstake.

By the way cant fault Ronnie for signing that contract nearly as long as the one Billy Horner got eh!

Have to say, Ronnie is as good a manager as we could expect. We could gamble on an unproven manager but that's not worked out well for us in recent history.
To me the problem is not the manager. He's improved the squad, as the league table proves, but our budget clearly doesn't have the scope to turn us into a playoff team overnight.

Fair comments Poolie Crab.
I dont expect things to change overnite.
We been in a dire mess for 5/6 years but patience is wearing thin.

Other teams seem to be able to turn their teams around once the season is over Northampton and Wycombe two year ago abysmal one season decent the next. Carlisle the same this year. With pools its well we were shite last year so we cant expect them to be good this season. Why cant we be decent this year? Is it down to paying peanuts on run of the mill players and we cant compete with the majority of the league now.

Not sure about other teams resources, I know Wycombe have found themselves a good manager in Ainsworth who they'll struggle to keep hold of.
Look at the players we brought in, cast offs from teams around us in the league and a couple of players from the Conference who were better than that league. I'd be surprised if the wage budget is much higher than last season if at all.

I think we'll be fine this season personally, I have a feeling something will click and form will follow. Might only take one loan signing similar to Tshibola to give the lads a boost.

Cheltenham and Tranmere are the reason we are in the state we are in today

Had it not been for them there would have been no 'great escape' Our clearly poor manager would not be held in the esteem he is

our 'clearly poor manager'

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he took over the worst team in the football league, I think he's done a pretty decent job overall considering.

That was then, this is now - RM is as culpable for the current mess as any of his players - with his track record he should be embarrassed with the performance of HIS team over the past seven days. He needs to sort it pdq - or fall on his sword as Colin Cooper did last season when he finally accepted that his time was up.

completely agree, we need a Mirfin and a Tshibola...

What is this agenda with Moore, what has he done to you?

Nothing. He is a poor manager. That's all

Like others have been before him. Is there something wrong with saying so

he's an average manager

He's clearly not a poor manager he's managed over 900 games and has never been relegated, poor managers don't get 50 games. He's just a bog standard lower league boss, the problems at our club stem for further than who is the current incumbent of the managers office.

The club problems are huge. I am aware of that. The on field performances are the managers fault. The form table doesn't lie. Any other incumbent would be a target for a sacking

It seems that you are another that's fallen for him cheeky Scouse manner and the 'it's you Ron Ron Ron' bollocks

No they wouldn't that is utterly ridiculous.

We've played 11 games this season and are 17th, that is almost a lofty position compared to recent seasons. Fucking hell Colin Cooper had to resign, so after keeping us up to suggest that 11 games later is hysterical nonsense.

Hold that thought....

I sit on the fence with moore. If he went then we would probably end up with big sam anyway. His tactics and substitutions leave a lot to be desired at times and tuesday was a perfect example. However today was a bit different, we could and should have won really. We created enough clear cut chances and should have been ahead before they even scored. Bingham missing a hat full of chances is hardly moore's fault and he played the team today that me and many others would have wanted, we created plenty and it was silly mistakes that cost us the goals. He also needs backing financially because all I see is recycled wages. Owning a football club is expensive and "wanting it to be financially self sufficient" only means one thing to me, struggling in the bottom half.

I will, but I'd rather do that than preempt failure, I don't think we played badly at all today the game was never a 4-1. To call someone with Moores record ' a poor manager' after over 900 games is utterly laughable whatever happens this season, the bloke averages over 60 points a season over that career, Pools as a club haven't done that since Danny Wilson got us promoted 8 years ago but I'm sure if it goes wrong it will be yet another managers fault.

Out of interest, how many matches have you been to this season?

None. I suspect you already know that.

Your point is .....

So you're basing your opinion on all the games he won last season?

Talking about clubs who struggle to get 2000 gates look at accrington stanley many gates of just over a 1000 the ground is a shithole but look at them know in the league

I'm basing my opinion on lots of things.

I haven't seen Newcastle, Newport or One Direction this season either, but I'm well aware of their shittiness !

For the fanbase we got we should have ambitions like Rochdale n Bury.
I had this conversation with Parmo yesterday and we both agreed that the lack of ambirion in the Boardroom is a piss take.
The main reason why he only goes now when he gets a freebie ticket.
A lifelong fan whos had enough and see straight thru Russ Green.

We have a much bigger fanbase then Rochdale or bury there crowds get exaggerated by a much larger away presence than we get. Time for excuses to stop why we aren't good enough. Ronnie Moore has spelt it out many times this season. We cant compete with teams like cambridge on transfer fees. Now the question is that I ask is what the hell are you taking over a football club if after a month you cant compete with teams like this. Who can you compete with. Yeah they had a cup game last year but under iors rules that money has to be spread out over the next 25 years.

You've previously criticised me for giving comment on Pools even when I was going semi regularly saying that I wasn't in a position to judge so I'm sure you can understand why I'm surprised by your above comments.

It seems funny that you're suddenly commenting about Pools on here and on other sites now that things have turned slightly sour for Moore. You seem to be getting satisfaction out of it. Bizarre.

The fans are backing the team brilliantly in numbers and vocally.
But patience is beginning to run out with the fans on this board and ITB with this so called KPMG regime.

The writing was on the wall the minute Russ green kept his job. Only at pools could we get new owners unable to attract decent players in two months after the season has started.

Whats the jepus does Pools (oldie!) refer to?

Have we changed our nickname?

I've commented on Moore since he came here......

The 7 point cushion that Pools had a month or so ago is evaporating and relegation into oblivion is now on the cards.
To be safe from relegation requires a mid table position but clearly the present team are no where near the standard of a poor mid table team like Exeter.
This topic was started on 3rd October but few took heed thinking the early successes heralded a new beginning. However failure to invest in a much improved squad had to result in the same crisis as last season.
The fans deserve better!

Ah the old "I told you so"

It's Darlow Stan. . Welcome to the board

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The reality is that we reached a peak when we were mid-table in League 1 halfway through the 2008/09 season & it's been downhill since then. Turner followed Danny Wilson , then Wadsworth, then Neale Cooper, then Hughes, then Colin Cooper, then Murray & then Moore. SEVEN managers on from Wilson leaving. That tells it's own story. Every season since Wilson left has been shyte for the most part -it's not just about the here & now. We've come full circle since the late eighties & relegation is definitely a concern. Time for the club to move fully on from the old guard. It needs change at all levels . Can't keep blaming manager after manager. A new culture is needed.

Err. . How can you reach a peak when you finished in the league one playoffs two seasons in a row getting g to the final in one..surely that's the peak...

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Coxhalls only chance to to rid the club of those who should never be allowed to set foot in the club again and start a fresh. I doubt he has the balls to do it.

I like Coxhall but he will get us nowhere with the present incumbents.

When you look at it objectively in those terms it's pretty scary. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas as we all know and it seems JPNG fit the bill exactly as owners not powerful enough to force the change at the club which is needed

I guess so.

Exeter and now Stevenage; piss poor lower middle table teams.

Fail to beat Yeovil and it's goodbye to league football. Games in hand count for nothing if the team cannot grind out results against weak opposition and it appears that they can't.

Didn't realise the season finished at the weekend! What a quick last 3 month that was!!!

The season wont be finished after these 3 home games but we possibly have our hardest run in for years. I wouldn't like to think we had to rely on these nuggets to get a result at Plymouth on the last day.