That's 5 losses in a row outplayed in pretty much every game. Defence as bad as ever, no creativity and no strength in depth. Time to see how ambitious our owners are your hooneymoon period is over.

Can't comment on today's performance as I wasn't there but we rode our luck the first few games when we were winning and were the second best team. Now winless in 5 is slightly worrying, not saying it's the end of world but Cheltenham started off well last year and see how they ended.

Full backs. Please sign full backs.

1-1 on Tuesday night? One. One. Where you there? Did you leave your eyes at home? We were played off the park for 45 minutes, partly because we didn't seem to be arsed in all fairness, but there's no way that game has any positives other than Bartlett who was immense.

I didn't expect anything from today and I didn't expect us to do any better than mid table come the end of the season.

Excellent. Who did we get in the next round ?

well 'the party academy of Karl Marx' never did like seeing people win or lose so its unsurprising they banned penalty shoot outs. But times have changed, and we lost.

Deservedly so.

Back to the post subject owners need to back Ronnie with some good loanies otherwise they will lose a shitload of pay on the day fans.

Over to you Mr Chairman!

Carsons pre season interview keeps popping into my head when he said we weren't playing well pre season but it was the same at Cheltenham - they went on to win first 4 league games and well we know what happened next.

Moore needs to decide what formation to play and get players to fit into it. Magnays 3 game ban is gonna make things even harder.

If I was going to sign some players I would be looking for decent wingers. The inability to bring some in will cost us this season and is definately one of the reasons we have played 433 most games. Better defenders required as well, Worley and bates both way off the mark.

Aye cos it's time we were pushing for the title....

I'm sure if anyone asked you the question of where you would like to finish in the 15/16 season in Feb last year it would be mid table/safe. Now we seem to demand to solid top half performance. Give it a break, it's still a gelling squad and Wycombe are a good side!

I've got faith in what I've seen so far and we will be safe. I'm happy with a mid table finish. Let's not get too critical too early, back the team and batter on.

I do agree that a few loan players would be good, but I'd love to see anyone on this board manage pools and convince players come to what last season was a very ailing league 2 club that the majority of UK football write off no matter what league we play in and do a better job than Ronnie has

Ffs

We looked dead n buried last season but still managed to attract 2 quality players in Tishbola and Mirfin.
With the injury crisis at the club its the Loan Market that will make or break our season.Add in a few more suspensions and next thing we know its another Relegation battle.

Russ said good season ticket revenue was to finance ambitions of a play off place otherwise we would of sold nowhere near 3200!

A good, balanced view that. Plus the fact we have had a fair few injuries to contend with already!

The reality is that we won't be pushing for promotion this year, but won't be fighting relegation either. Obviously some work to do defensively but this year we look to have goals on us. Oh and also a bit of fight and not just capulating as soon as we go a goal down as well.

Every single match barring Newport and even they had decent spells against us the opposition have created chance after chance against us. If that keeps happening in every single game we will be in serious trouble. Maybe we have too much upfront to get dragged into it this yeah but even the forward line are not exactly pulling up trees on the goal scoring front possibly because of a lack of creativity in the side.

Give over. It was mostly a close game in which we competed. Wycombe are a well organised team who have picked up where they left off last season and you could see the confidence, not to mention the graft.

Ok we lost but that reflected the fact that they were a little better than us. It was a sight better than last seasons performances and we'll do better than last time around. We're not promotion contenders but then we're not relegation fodder either. All in all, up to now it's been a good step forward with a group of players who still hardly know each other and a formation they're not yet comfortable with. Maybe that'll change.

On another note, nice to see Jeff Stelling taking time to give kids of both sides photo opportunities. Even during the game.

I don't get this, every time the inevitable setback crops up it produces the doomsday scenario.The same tedious Champagne expectatipns from lemonade players.
ffs .... It's Div2 and early days...... if anyone doesn't understand that, just take out a subscription to Sky and join the Premiership bandwagon, insecurity gone and the sun shines for ever .... and pubs are much more comfortable to watch the lovely game compared to a Tuesday night at the Vic in January.

Its a little bit more than a setback though isn't it? Its five games not one or two. You probobly said the same last year when we had a poor start and ended up getting lucky because of Cheltenham and tranmeres disasterous end to the season. I don't think we will get relegated but maybe part of the problem with our football club is that people like yourself and I'm not saying its a bad thing are quite happy to accept five poor games as the norm. I'm not quite as willing to accept the losing mentality lots of pools fans have.

aaah the old 'losing mentality' quote. always used by the people who are simply unable to grasp that sometimes grown-ups are 'realistic' about lower league football. it's not a losing mentality to accept that the team is in the development stage, and there will be more bumps in the road before Moore gets them playing exactly as he wants them to. You obviously haven't played a great deal off football if all you demand is back to back victories and throw your toys out of the pram if it doesn't go your way. Wouldn't want you playing alongside me if the going got tough. If you can't handle early season inconsistency (Walsall and Orient both lost an unbeaten record yesterday) then I suggest you take up knitting. Or just grow up.

How did we get lucky last season? Two teams were shitter than us, that's not luck, that's a fact.

Theres no reason why loyalty and ambition cant go hand in hand.
No doubt theres improvement on last season but a 5 goal defeat and a 1 goal defeat = no points.

Add in our best player out for three games and second best player has been the goalkeeper i,m not surprised theres fans already concerned.

The ups n downs of being a poolie will always bring out a difference of opinion.

Why would I need to grow up? Because I dare to criticise a poor run of form? Everyone is entitled to their opinion whether your in the bury the head in the sand group or maybe going over the top with criticism club.

Who's blaming the owners? Have I said anywhere where i blame them? We have got rid of a load of players and replaced most. I'm saying if we want to compete near the top end we probobly need the owners to get better quality in. Especially in defence. Think it was Russ free suggesting we make an attempt at the play offs. Now I think most would probably agree we will probobly need more quality to do that. That's not blaming anyone its just probobly reality.

They took over. We won first three games. Crowds massively up. Cup draw against premiership opponents everything going great. Then few injuries. Bad results so yeah honeymoon period is over. What's with the ffs? Cant you take a slightly different oppinion?

if your going to use cup matches to beat them with a stick and highlight the poor run of form, you should at least do the same for the good run of form. We won the first 4 games.

Yes we certainly did and a great start it was. Think your going a bit over top chip trying to make out I'm having at go at new owners and if you think that fair enough. I'm saying they will probably have to get better players in. You have your opinion I have mine. A win at Exeter and everything be rosey again.

we have league form of p6, w3, l3
We have beaten a League one team in the cup, drew against another, and got beat off a Premier League team.

We have only failed to score in 1 league match.

I reckon 99% of fans would have been delighted with that 6 weeks ago.

Of course we would of 6 weeks ago. Its just a shame we have lost the last 3.

it is, no disputing that. It certainly isn't the end of the world, we're an average League 2 team at best, so it's no major surprise.

To date in the league (which is the only thing that really counts for a club like Pools, we're averaging 1.5 points a game, over the course of the season that gives us a top ten finish. That's a shit load better than anything IOR delivered for nearly a decade.

Wheres the drama?

'People like yourself'..... you really are a comedian
As for you not been willing to accept the losing mentality lots of pools fans have, so what are you going to do then, stamp your feet and hold your breath till we win every match...? You have a naivety of how things pan out in the lower leagues and an infantile belief that losing is just not acceptable, which tells me you are going have difficulty ever adapting to the game at this level with your unrealistic expectations.
Just when did you actually start supporting Pools...?

6 league games in....no need to get excited/worried, if your team is unbeaten, or not won a game. My pint is half-full !

Just the 30 years of watching us home and away. Think first game was a 3-0 win over lincoln in the FA cup. granted not as many away games due to finances now. Is that enough lower league football for you? Who's stamping their feet when we lose? Followed pools for long enough that you almost get immune to losses I've said we need money to improve squad to improve or cant you understand that? But next time I have an opinion I will keep my mouth shut until its ok with the usual suspects on here and wait till they think the team needs improving.

BILLY i think u post some good opinions on here if people dont agree with u then life carrys on its only a message board.
I post my opinions and it dosent bother me either way whether people agree or disagree.
I remember JOHNNY getting a bit of grief last season for saying we would stay up.
Theres a few posters on here who just want u to agree with them most of the time.

Opinions
Opinions.

Of course it is that's all it is opinions. Suggesting brand new owners maybe bring in extra quality players to help us when your in a slump is hardly controversial stuff. I'm sure they are working day and night to improve things but it still doesn't stop people discussing it on here. We all want the same thing a successful team

Im not going again till them nasty owners sign Messi on loan.

I remember that Lincon game when they were top of the old third division at the time.
Best Fa Cup memory beating Derby in 84 2 1 7000+ crowd brilliant atmosphere with a lot of crowd trouble at half time.

Was derby the same year as Lincoln? I remember the atmosphere of the derby game. Unreal at the time up there with palace and bournmouth fourth round game that match.

Sure Lincoln was 83 maybe 82!

Yeah Lincoln was November 1982 and derby was 1984 we actually played derby 5 times in about 1 year. Had a very good milk cup game against them. Lost 3-0 down there and beat them 2-0 again up here when that cup was regarded as quite important.

About the same era we lost the 1st leg at Derby 2 0 then won the 2nd leg 4 2.
went out on away goals 4 4.
Archie Gemmil playing for them when he was still a quality player.

We have a much more attack minded team this year. This will inevitably mean the opposing team are likely to have more gaps to exploit. We clearly don't have much problem scoring goals, as evident by the number of games we have already scored in this year. Even the Sheff U match, despite the one sided feel to the game, according to Bet365 we had more shots and more attacks than they did. The problem for me is the basic defending. Winning the headers from high balls, and not letting the strikers turn towards the goal.

Boyce for me has looked the only one capable of doing both in the limited time I have seen him. Even against Ibehre he fended him off well, always making him go backwards. Harrison on the other hand just backed off and let him have free reign to do whatever he wanted with the ball.

Worley has been very disappointing. He should be using his height a lot more effectively than he does. Harrison has been all over the shop the past few games. I lost count of the number of times he was dragged out of position against Carlisle. He seems to lose his head very easily, and then tends to chase the ball to wherever it is to try and win it, instead of letting someone else do their own job.

I would start Boyce and Jones at centre half on Saturday. We certainly need a right back on loan, ideally with a midfielder too.

The Boyce situation??????

I suspect he was brought in as emergency cover when Worley, Bates and Jones were all out of action. Now two of them are back he has dropped to the bench. Moore probably wants to trust his own players.

I just took it that he feels we need the added height of Worley or Boyce to maybe make up for the lack of height in the keeper?

I just took it that he feels we need the added height of Worley or Boyce to maybe make up for the lack of height in the keeper?

Look I know we played teams in higher leagues than ourselves but that shouldnt make us forget how to defend properly, we are not looking like a great team what so ever and without Magnay / Woods in the middle of the park we will not get any better. I just hope we start doing the basics good enough to beat teams, I mean surely we cant be telling our players to give the opposition teams time and space on the ball, Lets start closing down and stop letting teams play football if we can