The feel good factor is back.Things are looking good Season tickets will be renewed.

I agree although there are one or two on the bunker who are intent on looking for every opportunity to turn a positive situation into a negative.

We've all been critical in recent years but come on there is definitely some effort been made to improve thing.

The signings, pitch improvements, the manager is on the same wavelength as the fans. He knows what he needs and its nice to see that for a change our location has actually help us with the Magnay and Carson signings.

Just hope people recognise what's going on?

I honestly think Ken got a shock last season and I do believe that in Ronnie he's got somebody he is prepared to support.

I know that sounds strange but I don't think any manage has had the support or the relationship with ken that Chris Turner had (the first time round) until now, I do think Ronnie just might have that trust from Ken.

Maybe the owners business is doing a little better. There seems to have been time spent dealing with the law and down turn in success over the last few years.

your on dangerous ground here Roadrunner. People have been banned for less.

I'd hazard a guess that's not he case, the oil industry on the whole is in a bad place, the decline started 5 years ago when business in the industry was booming.

Seems to me Ronnie is just doing a better job with the budget. So far so good I'd say, we just need to get the squad filled out a bit now


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Ban away.

If IOR had not backed Ronnie Moore who the fans love they would get the backlash of it as people wouldnt buy tickets and would be on their backs even more. It makes more sense to improve the team to make it more appealing to any buyers!

has there really been a massive increase in investment? to me it looks like the money is just being used in a better way. theyve got some of the rubbish off the wage bill and ronnies bringing in positive players who will contribute rather than old players who are past it and not worth the wage.

if you ask me the credit all goes to ronnie. itll take a lot more for me to give IOR any credit.

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Colin Cooper had a budget but he wasted it on his pals.

I agree well done to ALL concerned. It's been an amazing clean out and very positive intentions.

This, although the fact we have paid a fee for Carson is a promising sign.


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We finally have a manager who knows what the fuck he is doing when it comes to transfers. I don't think IOR are heavily investing at all, we've released 5 first team players (potentially more if Flinders and Austin go) and signed 6 first team players, 5 of them for nowt and one for around £30k I'm guessing. It's very promising and I'm starting to look forward to next season. This isn't me putting a downer on things its just stating facts (Barring the Carson fee, that's an educated guess)

On paper, 6 cracking signings. Well done all concerned on getting the squad in place so early. I'm sure the wages spent on these 6 will still be more than covered by the 9 or so who left so hopefully some more left for another couple of permanent signings.

Just goes to show how much Cooper fucked us over spunking it on Parnaby, Miller and Harewood

And to think I got accused of being an IOR lover last year for saying they gave Cooper money to spend last summer but he wasted it and was the one who put us in the shit.

It seems over the past few seasons a wedge of the player budget has been splashed on big name signings who failed to deliver.

I would be stopping the IOR love in for the moment.

We still haven't seen the Baldwin and/or James money being reinvested, plus imagine these 6 players are on less money than the 6 that left. Plus what seems to be another 3 leaving too to leave us 3 players down on squad count.

The recruitment so far has been fantastic and further highlights the poor use of what seems to be a small budget by cooper. Ronnie just seems to be better with the budget available.

It still sounds like we have picked up carson's wages for the next 2 months, possibly until transfer window actually opens? Encouraging and fair to say optimism is definitely growing amongst the fans but let's not forget the past couple of years of different managers not being backed that well because of 1 summer so far.

So what has happened with this so called investment by Dean Construction and other if we stayed up.

Took me a long time to accept that IOR were running the club into the ground after they had been excellent owners for a long while and i'm usually optimistic about Pools but....

We only stayed up last season because two teams somehow managed to be even worse than us. The four match winning streak under Ronnie only did the trick because others were so bad - in most seasons we would have gone down with that points total.

If IOR want to sell they are better off flogging a league club.

We've mostly let players go who have no sale value but some were on fairly big wages for our level. We've recruited players on frees, all with mixed pedigrees. Hopefully Ronnie Moore knows his stuff well enough to get the best out of them but they aren't sure bets. If he does he'll have built a better squad cheaper which would be excellent mangement with all credit due to Ronnie.

Maybe we paid for Carson, the keeper from a relegated team, but he clearly wanted away and favoured a return to the north east so we won't have paid much. I don't know if he will prove to be better than Flinders but I suspect the reduction or complete stop to Flinders' wages will be covering it.

I do feel hopeful about next season but I'm a long way from confident and won't be changing my mind about IOR until the huge admin fees are either properly explained or stopped.

I'm not saying there hasn't been a noticeable lack of motivation from IOR over the last 5 years. They did try to sell us after all.
But half of the bad light in which we see IOR is people's natural inclination to blame everything onto one person/outfit.

In truth IOR are probably doing fuck all now that they didn't do before. For example has anyone seen a press release from the Pools owners about ambitions for the next season? And there again, did anyone see one before the 2004-5 season?

But they did come dangerously close to killing the club last season. All I ask of them for starters is that they learn from that. Have they? Or is it just the Ronnie Moore effect we're seeing?

Looks like a very similar budget to last season to me. That just highlights what a piss poor job Cooper did. Time will tell whether RM's are better but I'm a lot more confident with him holding the purse.

not so sure how the budget can be deemed the same when ultimately we have probably replaced the 6 players who have left with players who I would imagine are on less wages. Add in that bates is now on reduced terms and the other 3 are leaving or agreeing reduced terms, I would pretty certain our wage level will be lower than last season when season kicks off.

We also have upped the season ticket prices so ultimately budget should be higher than last season. Just points that I think are valid but we are all in agreement Ronnie seems to be streets ahead of Cooper with his signings in his short time here.

Spot on chunky yet a few of our fans think ior are splashing the cash.

They are brainwashed by free tickets and tickle bellies though.

The main positive so far is signing players so early for once and also the good impression the club must be giving to these players as im sure they could wait to see what other offers etc come their way. They must have been impressed to sign up so early as im sure most of these players will have had other offers.

Wages offered to the new players must be half decent or surely they would have hung on in the hope of better offers. Just a thought like.

don't think players can wait around that long to see if other offers come in unless there is strong interest.

the high levels of players out of contract even after the season starts suggests that it's not that easy to get a contract....or just there is a high level of poor players

Chunky you are starting to make Horden and Tree look like positive contributors to the message board.

I don't think any of the players we've signed look like 'poor players' we've signed two lads who were player of the year for the clubs they are leaving for a start. A lad who most of us thought looked a really promising player whilst he was on loan here. All of the signings are of the right age and pedigree to do well. Whatever the budget Moore is doing well within it and is obviously selling the club well. Is a really encouraging pre season so far and a one people of cried out for, for years as we are actually getting wholesale change.

Ironically as well for all those fans of 'we can't sign anyone because of our location' the two lads who have left clubs to come here as player of the year have done so..... Because of location!

what part of any posts have I ever said the signings don't look promising? please read my posts, and when you can see all points, please make a comment back!

the signings are great, young, hungry and with points to prove and replacing those who were old, basically useless and hogging the wage budget. BUT....my point is that I doubt these players are on more, or even the same amount of wages between them as the 6 that have left so the whole IOR are finally answering their critics and putting hand in their pocket is quite frankly, tripe.

they've spent money on carson (or paid wages which is similar to a small transfer fee) but we seem to have posters which seem to forget the money which was raised by selling baldwin and james.

I was simply pointing out to medium also that I don't think players just sit around waiting for better offers unless there is very strong interest. We've got in there early and sorted things which again comes back to my point about moore and the numerous times I have pointed out positive things about him and the way he has went about his business.

So if you're saying that we've got this lot for loads less than who they've replaced are you saying that we must in fact have had a decent wage budget last season?

no body said loads less either because ultimately I don't know the ins and outs of the wage budget.

I imagine we spent more on wages for the last season's playing squad than anyone we have currently signed on for next season. I also imagine franks, flinders and austin are possibly 3 of higher earners still without future sorted or signed up so more wages will be reduced when they inevitably leave.

I much prefer this approach, signing young and hungry players who have sell on value. We need these players who improve and get sold on due to size of our club but what we can't do is sell players like baldwin and james and not re-invest a reasonable amount of the income back into the team. Don't get me wrong, it certainly looks like last season has scared them and maybe it will lead to them staying here but we will see if they are still keen to sell.

Not one part of me is criticising the signings so far, and indeed the 3 ronnie is still trying to sign because at least he is doing as promised (9 signings were mentioned, only 3 short) but we have essentially replaced members of the squad who have left. We currently have 20 players signed up ready for next season on pro contracts with another 3 due to come in; possibly 3 if they resign so would make a 26 which is a good size however still slightly short in striking department.

Loans will come in no doubt, and this was a very big strong point of Ronnie's last season.

The non-season ticket holders from last season who contributed to the ticket offers gate receipts will of boosted Ronnies budget and fair play to them.( an extra 10,000 fans who will of spent money in the ground.)

Like plenty of posters mentioned before the club made extra revenue by being shit and involved in the great escape relegation battle.

this is utterly irrelevant..... you can send a fortunecand end up with crap one season and spend less the next season and achieve something, it all depends what you spend your money on. Just blindly spending the same amount proves nothing.

Please point out anywhere where I have said that the less wages I'm presuming new players are on will mean they are worse? I've stated numerous times I'm impressed with the signings, but just pointing out that IOR aren't suddenly putting their hands in their pockets.

More of a case of the bigger earners being shifted and Ronnie knowing how to use the budget. IOR can't suddenly escape the criticism that went their way because Ronnie has signed 6 players. Which is exactly same amount as those already left the club

Ronny has a budget, Ronny spends budget, whatever is spent or not spent is irrelevant to me as long as he's happy with it. I'm not praising IOR or comparing what's spent with previous seasons, I don't really care.