Jordan Hugill

Chesssington · **Joined:** Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:36 pm **Posts:** 900

How did he play

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:25 pm

thought he did pretty well, constant nuisance, worked hard, won flick ons and held it up well. Should have scored at the end of the 1st half. Thought he brought out the best in Franks, who I thought was very good in the main

suvin50 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:12 pm **Posts:** 92

How bad was his injury?

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Just cramp and tiredness I think.

Played very well. Great touch and control.

ltr · **Joined:** Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:12 am **Posts:** 818

Took a fair few knocks too and got zero protection off the ref.

Ben G · **Posted:** Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:20 pm

Ref was shite and the lad was obviously a bit unfit. Few more weeks and he should be well on track for a few goals.

Hartleblue · **Posted:** Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:38 pm

I thought Hugill did a great job, won loads of headers ,closed down and worked his socks of, I thought Franks was shocking, lazy, never made a single tackle or won a header and he had three good chances especially when he was through and in the box on the left side and actually turned away from goal instead of shooting or hitting it across the box. I know others will disagree but that,s my honest opinion. :angry-screaming:

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Why on earth didn't Franks shoot first time when he got played through a minute after half time?? It was absolutely perfect for striking.

He bottled a fair few today but for once his crosses and corners were pretty much spot on. A frustrating player but he did well today but should have done even better.

Ben G · **Posted:** Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:53 pm

To be fair, the wind did most of the work...

Kevin Dixon · **Joined:** Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:04 am **Posts:** 1432

chrissafc wrote:

thought he had a very good game, got stuck in as well (flattened 3 of their players in the first ten minutes).

did he get the final touch for the first goal?

just seen the highlights looked like he got the last touch.

blocksands · **Joined:** Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:54 am **Posts:** 25

thought Huggy did well, decent in the air and always looking to chase down defenders.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

I don't I've ever typed the the following but here you go.

Franks was great today, he worked his bollocks off for the team.

Him and Tish today had cracking games.

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:55 pm

Hugill was very good. He will be excellent once he gets fully fit.

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ltr · **Joined:** Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:12 am **Posts:** 818

chrissafc wrote:

thought he had a very good game, got stuck in as well (flattened 3 of their players in the first ten minutes).

did he get the final touch for the first goal?

I think it was already over the line, but good of him to be following it in.

roadrunner · **Joined:** Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:32 pm **Posts:** 266

Can't believe that anybody would criticize Jonathan Franks base on today's performance, he worked his socks off all game. Hartleblue how could say Franks was lazy is beyond me, have a look at the highlights the 2 corners that Franks took (that resulted in both goals) probably the best 2 corners (in terms of their quality/delivery) he's taken this season.
If you don't like him fair enough, he has frustrated us all on occasions but against Cambridge come on he created both goals.

thetownendfaithful · **Posted:** Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:48 pm

Having two grafters up front and a solid 3 at the back is working absolute wonders for us. Credit to Moore for switching things around and long may it continue

Hartleblue · **Posted:** Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:28 pm

roadrunner wrote:

Can't believe that anybody would criticize Jonathan Franks base on today's performance, he worked his socks off all game. Hartleblue how could say Franks was lazy is beyond me, have a look at the highlights the 2 corners that Franks took (that resulted in both goals) probably the best 2 corners (in terms of their quality/delivery) he's taken this season.
If you don't like him fair enough, he has frustrated us all on occasions but against Cambridge come on he created both goals.

Hands up I shouldn,t have said lazy ( frustration :angry-screaming:

) But if you can,t kick a dead ball you shouldn,t be playing football ( corners) I just can,t rememeber him ever making a strong tackle or putting himself in where he " might " take a wacking! for the team. he just stands too far off the player he should be getting right in the face of.

Tex Ritter · **Joined:** Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:47 pm **Posts:** 943

Franks best game for the club in my opinion. Never sopped running and chasing.

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:26 pm

I think franks worked hard and played well. Even his corners beat the first man and caused them problems! but there is no excuse for bottling challenges like he does, not when we are in a relegation battle. These aren't pre season friendlies at the minute.

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marcus richardsons third leg · **Joined:** Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:04 pm **Posts:** 446

Hartleblue wrote:

roadrunner wrote:

Can't believe that anybody would criticize Jonathan Franks base on today's performance, he worked his socks off all game. Hartleblue how could say Franks was lazy is beyond me, have a look at the highlights the 2 corners that Franks took (that resulted in both goals) probably the best 2 corners (in terms of their quality/delivery) he's taken this season.
If you don't like him fair enough, he has frustrated us all on occasions but against Cambridge come on he created both goals.

Hands up I shouldn,t have said lazy ( frustration :angry-screaming:

) But if you can,t kick a dead ball you shouldn,t be playing football ( corners) I just can,t rememeber him ever making a strong tackle or putting himself in where he " might " take a wacking! for the team. he just stands too far off the player he should be getting right in the face of.

He was playing up front. How many strong tackles do you want from a striker? As for standing off he worked tirelessly to help out the wing backs whenever they were left 2 against 1. I can only assume you were drunk or are jet generally an idiot who doesn't understand football.

Rinkender · **Joined:** Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:36 pm **Posts:** 800

I had a look at the Cambridge message board ( you have to register) and one guy said the defence was slow, that was answered by another saying they were up against flying machine Jonathon Franks

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37875

I am amazed at Franks transformation under Moore..... he was flying against Cambridge. I suspect some people just define a player in their head and find it very difficult to change their perception of the player..... and some just expect a player to do everything regardless. I call it he did well but syndrome, they don't like a player, they can't be seen to change their mind, so the have to look for some imagined weakness in their victim.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Snowy wrote:

I am amazed at Franks transformation under Moore..... he was flying against Cambridge. I suspect some people just define a player in their head and find it very difficult to change their perception of the player..... and some just expect a player to do everything regardless. I call it he did well but syndrome, they don't like a player, they can't be seen to change their mind, so the have to look for some imagined weakness in their victim.

Im one of his biggest critics but as I said above, his crosses were great for once and he was a right pain in the arse for Cambridge and looked a big threat. He gave everything but I expect no less from a player.

His decision making in not shooting when the ball was absolutley perfect for blamming home (in the 46th minute) was dreadful as were the 3 'bottling' incidents.

They were not "imagined weakness"s as you put them. Even Moore was furious and ripping his hair out.

Take out the bottling and put his foot through that ball and then id have gave him a 10/10 to be honest. Still a very worthy 8.5/10 imo.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Actually i thought he read Hugills flicks very well too.

Hartleblue · **Posted:** Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:13 am

marcus richardsons third leg wrote:

Hartleblue wrote:

roadrunner wrote:

Can't believe that anybody would criticize Jonathan Franks base on today's performance, he worked his socks off all game. Hartleblue how could say Franks was lazy is beyond me, have a look at the highlights the 2 corners that Franks took (that resulted in both goals) probably the best 2 corners (in terms of their quality/delivery) he's taken this season.
If you don't like him fair enough, he has frustrated us all on occasions but against Cambridge come on he created both goals.

Hands up I shouldn,t have said lazy ( frustration :angry-screaming:

) But if you can,t kick a dead ball you shouldn,t be playing football ( corners) I just can,t rememeber him ever making a strong tackle or putting himself in where he " might " take a wacking! for the team. he just stands too far off the player he should be getting right in the face of.

He was playing up front. How many strong tackles do you want from a striker? As for standing off he worked tirelessly to help out the wing backs whenever they were left 2 against 1. I can only assume you were drunk or are jet generally an idiot who doesn't understand football.

Oh! My mistake, I didn,t realise that if you play up front you don,t have to tackle, but can you explain then please why he doesn,t tackle when he plays midfield or on the wing?

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:22 am

Hartleblue wrote:

marcus richardsons third leg wrote:

Hartleblue wrote:

[quote="roadrunner"]Can't believe that anybody would criticize Jonathan Franks base on today's performance, he worked his socks off all game. Hartleblue how could say Franks was lazy is beyond me, have a look at the highlights the 2 corners that Franks took (that resulted in both goals) probably the best 2 corners (in terms of their quality/delivery) he's taken this season.
If you don't like him fair enough, he has frustrated us all on occasions but against Cambridge come on he created both goals.

Hands up I shouldn,t have said lazy ( frustration :angry-screaming:

) But if you can,t kick a dead ball you shouldn,t be playing football ( corners) I just can,t rememeber him ever making a strong tackle or putting himself in where he " might " take a wacking! for the team. he just stands too far off the player he should be getting right in the face of.

He was playing up front. How many strong tackles do you want from a striker? As for standing off he worked tirelessly to help out the wing backs whenever they were left 2 against 1. I can only assume you were drunk or are jet generally an idiot who doesn't understand football.

Oh! My mistake, I didn,t realise that if you play up front you don,t have to tackle, but can you explain then please why he doesn,t tackle when he plays midfield or on the wing?[/quote]

This.

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Jonnym4 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:04 pm **Posts:** 103

With franks I think his game depends on confidence so much is always going to limit his ability. Even pre season against spennymoor he couldn't get in the game until he nicked a goal and then was everywhere.

I think his recent performances is due to him being better up front and realising that Moore probably wasn't going to offer him a new contract.

EdinburghPools · **Joined:** Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:09 pm **Posts:** 27

Came down from Edinburgh for this one and I was really impressed with a few players. Top man for me was Featherstone, always trying to put his foot on the ball and keep it on the deck. Thought Hugill really put himself about well and Franks seems a good foil for him, worked his socks off.

Don't understand the abuse Marlon gets, he was fantastic when he came on...

A special mention to the fans as well, cracking atmosphere that got the boys over the line in the end.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37875

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

Snowy wrote:

I am amazed at Franks transformation under Moore..... he was flying against Cambridge. I suspect some people just define a player in their head and find it very difficult to change their perception of the player..... and some just expect a player to do everything regardless. I call it he did well but syndrome, they don't like a player, they can't be seen to change their mind, so the have to look for some imagined weakness in their victim.

Im one of his biggest critics but as I said above, his crosses were great for once and he was a right pain in the arse for Cambridge and looked a big threat. He gave everything but I expect no less from a player.

His decision making in not shooting when the ball was absolutley perfect for blamming home (in the 46th minute) was dreadful as were the 3 'bottling' incidents.

They were not "imagined weakness"s as you put them. Even Moore was furious and ripping his hair out.

Take out the bottling and put his foot through that ball and then id have gave him a 10/10 to be honest. Still a very worthy 8.5/10 imo.

When I refer to imagined weakness, I'm refering to those fans who once they get a downer on a player are never off their backs and just won't change their minds, even if the player comes good, they are only happy when the players left.

Rossmere · **Joined:** Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:41 pm **Posts:** 88

Maybe Ronnie is playing him in his best position as he has certainly improved lately so have results (coincidence ?).

Im not saying Jonathon franks has improved our form all alone but he has made a difference 8/10 for Saturdays display from him.

Hartleblue · **Posted:** Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:34 pm

Snowy wrote:

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

Snowy wrote:

I am amazed at Franks transformation under Moore..... he was flying against Cambridge. I suspect some people just define a player in their head and find it very difficult to change their perception of the player..... and some just expect a player to do everything regardless. I call it he did well but syndrome, they don't like a player, they can't be seen to change their mind, so the have to look for some imagined weakness in their victim.

Im one of his biggest critics but as I said above, his crosses were great for once and he was a right pain in the arse for Cambridge and looked a big threat. He gave everything but I expect no less from a player.

His decision making in not shooting when the ball was absolutley perfect for blamming home (in the 46th minute) was dreadful as were the 3 'bottling' incidents.

They were not "imagined weakness"s as you put them. Even Moore was furious and ripping his hair out.

Take out the bottling and put his foot through that ball and then id have gave him a 10/10 to be honest. Still a very worthy 8.5/10 imo.

When I refer to imagined weakness, I'm refering to those fans who once they get a downer on a player are never off their backs and just won't change their minds, even if the player comes good, they are only happy when the players left.

Believe me Snowy, if he comes good or puts in a great display I will be the first to praise him, and I hope he does, I really do!

roadrunner · **Joined:** Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:32 pm **Posts:** 266

Hartleblue I think you missed the point I tried to make in my post, regardless of everything you've said did you watch the goals, without those quality corners we wouldn't of score 2 quality goals.

You really need to watch the quality of the delivery and the panic in their defence and I don't agree that because a corner is a dead ball that that means it should be a quality delivery. You would hope it would be, but in reality it's not necessarily.

The J Dizzle · **Joined:** Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:21 pm **Posts:** 342

Always liked Franks, glad he's gettin a bit of praise. His best position is clearly down the middle, his performances from Morecambe onward have been superb.

kebab & chips · **Posted:** Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:24 pm

Rinkender wrote:

I had a look at the Cambridge message board ( you have to register) and one guy said the defence was slow, that was answered by another saying they were up against flying machine Jonathon Franks

Thier local rag said Walkers goal came off his arm !

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

EdinburghPools wrote:

Came down from Edinburgh for this one and I was really impressed with a few players. Top man for me was Featherstone, always trying to put his foot on the ball and keep it on the deck

I didn't think Featherstone was a patch on his performance last weeks if you were impressed with him this week....you'd have loved him against Mansfield!

404: not found · **Joined:** Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:17 pm **Posts:** 10

Franks, not a fan of his, he totally frustrates me, he is poor at corners, can't get it past the first man, pulls out of tackles, shouldn't of let it bounce when he was through on goal, makes daft decisions on the pitch, has been really bad all season, however, if it wasn't for him on Saturday we would still be in the bottom two, he has been slated all season but my opinion is that when praise is due, give it and lets start and try and push on and stay out of the bottom two, if he can produce quality like that for the rest of the season (trying to type with crossed fingers here) then I can see a few more goals coming, if not, Fenwick should be fit shortly, drop Franks, bring Fenwick in as he will defo get goals of Hugill.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

First goal definitley Hugills goal. Pools just put the video up from behind the goal.

Be a bit gutted if id backed him for it.

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:25 am

I had Hugill score anytime Pools to win. Gutted they awarded it to Brad.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Joe Mac wrote:

I had Hugill score anytime Pools to win. Gutted they awarded it to Brad.

Should tweet them the video and say your gutted etc. There wont have been much riding on him and they may pay out for a bit of publicity etc.

Unlikely like :laugh:

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:39 am

Aye, I've just tweeted them now #JusticeForJoe

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Joe Mac wrote:

Aye, I've just tweeted them now #JusticeForJoe

Which firm?

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:48 am

Bet Victor

Rinkender · **Joined:** Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:36 pm **Posts:** 800

Just tell them you want a bit of cheeky Joe

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:34 pm

I spoke to them and they said they can see Jordan Hugill did score but can't pay as they have to take the official goalscorer that was put down, which is sadly Walker.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Bullshit that joe, bloody city hall, fight it all the way, rattle some cages!

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Yubep wrote:

Bullshit that joe, bloody city hall, fight it all the way, rattle some cages!

Haha!!

Rules is rules like but I dare say Paddy power would have paid out for a laugh and a bit of publicity.

DerbyshirePoolie · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:23 pm **Posts:** 90

Lets just move on and not draw attention the fact Hugill looks a bit offside to me

ptbap · **Posted:** Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:52 pm

I had him first goal scorer, appeal to PA!

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