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 Post subject: Moore
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:58 pm 
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A few people having a go at him about signings etc but what do people expect! I very much doubt the likes of Morgan, Bird or Jones were top of his wanted list but hes had to make do with scraping the bottom of the barrel! No decent players will be wanting to join us lot the way the club is right now. Id imagine players like Morgan were about 50th on his striker wish list and out of desperation he has been signed.


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:03 pm 
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Correct


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:15 pm 
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Working with hands tied behind his back & no doubt as fed up as us.

Thought we'd done well to get Ronnie as manager but who knows whether he'll stay beyond the end of the season if Hodcroft & Green are still about.


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:31 pm 
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Totally agree with all above.


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:35 pm 
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Because his hands are tied doesn't exempt him from criticism when his tactics and team selections leave a lot to be desired

What was stopping duckworth playing today? Why was smith dropped for harewood to have about his 10th chance to impress when he's useless? We did he persist with 4-3-3 and then change it when we looked very good?

No doubt he is a good manager but the whole hands are tied bollocks is boring and clouds over some poor choices


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:45 pm 
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Duckworth hasn't been very good being honest lately but the change was totally uneeded for me. I think he's become too focused on staying back and not playing to his strengths. Jones got skinned about three times in the first ten minutes today he did grow into the game a bit though.

Today highlights how bad the goons who run out club are at their jobs. We are bottom of this League and its shit, Burton a bang average team with a 100 away fans (roles reversed we'd have taken 800+ to Burton today) and 2,000 home crowds are fucking top.


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:58 pm 
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Chip Fireball wrote:
People keep saying what a good manager he is so why has he never managed a decent sized club or at the top level ?

Danny Wilson is the only manager I can think of who has managed at the top level and gone on to manage Pools in recent history.

Ronnie, in my opinion(which I'm very grateful to be allowed by you!) is as good as a team bottom of the football league, with very limited finances could expect to attract.
He's continually been employed since the late nineties, twice by two clubs and for relatively long periods of time at most of them. He might not be a world beater but at the level we're at he ticks all the boxes we could realistically ask to tick.

He was on a hiding to nothing with no assistance from his employers.


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:03 pm 
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His win percentage at league one and two levels stands up well against most.


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:06 pm 
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He was told he was only allowed to sign one more player and we got Bird in. Yet he didn't take no for an answer and managed to persuade ior to sanction another transfer yesterday.

If he can get ior to back track and allow him more money to spend then god only knows what he could do for the club working under owners who want to be here and are willing to invest


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:12 pm 
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Ronnie is the man for me. Back him and he'll sort us out. I agree with those who say his hands are tied and how hard it must be to get players to come to us given where we are and peanuts for wages.

Duckworth hasn't been himself and I think he (Moore) was also right when he said Duckworth can't defend. He is the dog's nuts going forward but does need to get better defensively.

Personally, I'd sooner back a man who has 800 league games of experience and a proven track record with small clubs (Rotherham being the obvious example) than anyone else we could get in to manage us (at this moment in time).

Unfortunately we are all but relegated but, for me, the blame for that does not fall entirely or even mostly at Moore's door. He has played a small part in a much bigger sad picture.


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:18 pm 
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The blame doesn't get anywhere close to Moores door or Paul Murray's.


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:20 pm 
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I've been frustrated to fuk with moore's dark age tactics, then when he finds a winning formula that made us look good, he goes and abandons it, very peculiar


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:21 pm 
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Whilst I didn't think Murray was right for the job when he was appointed, I still feel sorry for the bloke. Treated really badly.


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:24 pm 
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Recruitment has always been a problem for him because he's got nothing to sell.


Agent: 'how do you fancy signing for a club adrift at the bottom of the league for really shit money?'

Player: 'ermm let me think about that for three seconds....'


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:33 pm 
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billythefisherman wrote:
I've been frustrated to fuk with moore's dark age tactics, then when he finds a winning formula that made us look good, he goes and abandons it, very peculiar


But he has consistently lost players from that system, Bates and Bingham were fairly integral, Woods, Fenwick. If we'd have been able to out the eleven on the pitch that beat Plymouth and should have won at Tranmere then we might have had a chance. People say he could have played the same system with the scraps we have left but the winner today shows why Featherstone is a non entity of a midfield player loads of backwards and sideways passes that don't hurt anyone and I am still to this witness a tackle from him.


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
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PJPoolie wrote:
billythefisherman wrote:
I've been frustrated to fuk with moore's dark age tactics, then when he finds a winning formula that made us look good, he goes and abandons it, very peculiar


But he has consistently lost players from that system, Bates and Bingham were fairly integral, Woods, Fenwick. If we'd have been able to out the eleven on the pitch that beat Plymouth and should have won at Tranmere then we might have had a chance. People say he could have played the same system with the scraps we have left but the winner today shows why Featherstone is a non entity of a midfield player loads of backwards and sideways passes that don't hurt anyone and I am still to this witness a tackle from him.


Only bingham was unavailable initially, for the trip to Pompey he could realistically have played Fenwick in Binghams role but chose not to and actually dropped him if memory serves me right, after a very impressive individual performance.
Your right about featherstone, why didn't he just snap that fuk today and take a yellow card for the team breaking up play and saving a point :angry-screaming:


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
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Chip Fireball wrote:
It was Franks who scored twice against Plymouth, then got dropped for the next game at Portsmouth where I don't think we managed a shot on target.

How you drop a bloke who scores two goals and was a contender for man of the match beggars belief , but there you go.

oh yeah fenwick played in a 2 up top in a 352


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
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You have to think when he got the 433 working we've lost Fenwick, Bates, Woods and Bingham from that team. 3 of them were the main 4 creative players in the set up so he had to change it. Personally I think he finds something that works and has been forced to change it, other things he has since tried haven't worked as well so go for the tried and tested 442 which we had won a couple at home under and should have drawn today, Tuesday and at Bury if the players had grown a backbone, a pair of bollocks and used there heads


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 Post subject: Re: Moore
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My worry is whether IOR will use Moore as the scapegoat when we do get relegated, to deflect the blame for this mess.

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 Post subject: Re: Moore
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It is very important that we keep the same manager next year. He knows how to attract the type of player who may (I stress may) get us out of that league and the club is desperately in need of some stability and continuity. It is so depressing to hear the usual moans on this site in relation to a manager who has a good track record at this level, despite being older; I won't bore you with managers who are considerably older than him and seem to gave done quite well! My main concern is that he will leave, either because a league club wants him or he is deliberately and shamefully scapegoated by IOR and Mr Green. Who could blame him.


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