How do we raise the money we'd need to run the club? If it's up to us to save the club then we need to set something in motion soon.

Ask Nick loughlin to put something in the echo

A love letter for ken perhaps?

Don't pay administrative costs, the club will be self sufficient

How much cash are you willing to invest?
Serious question.

We need to be speaking to the people who run York City, Exeter City and Wycombe Wanderers. All successfully ran by fans (plus local investment). It won't be me doing it though.

Is that you nominating yourself again?!

if we become a fans ran club, local investment will come.

Frank Reid on facebook saying it is a silly suggestion

Glasgow Rangers don't exist do they?

Are you sure it was Frank? It could of been his brother

I wasn't defending him just taking the piss out of Rangers

I come in peace from Intotheblue.

The idea that was posted on here of a meeting in the corner flag after a home game sounds like the way forward to get the ball rolling.

You want to to have a discussion about the way forward when people have drink inside them, probably after a defeat, would a venue in an evening away from alcohol be more constructive?

it would only be a discussion to see how people feel. In drink may not be a bad idea 100% as their true feelings will come out and those that are sober will be able to take the core of the point out of that.

I dont understand those who shout up and say something needs sorting, then knock every decision oct made. Action needs taking yesterday, last week last month last year. If we keep deferring these potential meetings, august will be upon us again and IOR leading the way in the conference.

If people feel next saturday is a bad idea, propose a new time location and date, not something negative to suggestions made.

In drink maybe not a bad idea, all the best decisions in history were made whilst people were in drink I bet, fuck me!

i did suggest a meeting in the evening, how is that negative?

what evening? Mid-week when people need to put kids to bed, work away or even work shifts / nights.

As people have mentioned, those interested will probably be there on a match day. Don't forget we have fans travel from yorkshire, north of aberdeen and even further south of yorkshire.

I wasn't aiming the negative directly at yourself, merely remembering that previous discussions only seemed to involve comments countering any suggestions that were made, like ITB or the Bunker made them etc etc.

We all need to be singing from the same hymn sheet for this to work

Surely with something as big as this, the wife can put the kids to bed for one night, arranged when eastenders is not on etc, this is fuckin huge and sacrifices should be made to get this off the ground.

I have made contact with several groups that could could assist us, will let people know when they arrange some time off etc!

well i'm away monday - friday but would love to be involved. So unfortunately, all those outside of the town monday to friday counted out

like you say, sacrifices need to be made, but work commitments exclude that. maybe a few shandies could be sacrificed on a saturday before the game also

I get down to the town when Pools are at home, after the match is the best time to get together as we're all likely to be in one place.

After a game is better in my opinion as most fans will be at the game and its just popping in the flag for a chat.

Wasn't one of these meetings arranged a few weeks back and everyone made last minute excuses?

It was arranged for 2pm on an afternoon or something?

So a meeting can be arranged as long as it is of no inconvenience, no having to make a special trip out during the week to save the club from it`s current plight

Is it just me that finds this epitomises the supporters of Hartlepool, sit on the fence, slag off the willing, accept the status quo, resist change and laud the current purveyors of bilge as saviours!

If indeed people want to change things, it will mean upheaval, putting yourselves out, making sacrifices and a lot of hard work, most people won`t have time or cannot commit, despite having the best interests of the club at heart.

Semi retired professional people, retired people with nothing to do, people who are minted and the full time workers who cannot stomach what is currently happening and will spare what time they have to stop the rot.

I want to help in any way I can, attend a meeting, attend a protest or whatever the commitee deem necessary, when we eventually get one that is, we need a small group to make a start, over to you Poolies!

Behave, I live out of the town, have a family and have to work.

Do you know chip you are one reason I wont go to any sort of meeting because you are so opinionated I couldn't work with you. You know who I am I know i you I have operated a group.for years and have had some success but I don't operate the I know everything approach I can learn from other people and their experience and can learn from others.

Chip's not claiming to know anything about this. None of us do, hence the need for baby steps.

I have got contacts about this situation from Darlington but everyone has to go to clubs down south is that sensible I know you will say why them but they went down this route years ago

Good idea, should get twice as many as came to the last meeting.

There are people from the southern clubs ready to help out. Chester and Wrexham have been mentioned, Hereford and Exeter also. Tommy Tainant was a name mentioned, I believe he's a member on here.

Hereford god knows I have a connection with them but lets get information from a local source who can come to meetings and give us specific information there and then

Fully agree, as I said this is new for everyone, refusing to go if certain people are involved with all due respect is a bit daft.

Let's just get everyone together, have a person chair it and see if we can get an action list of things we need to do.

Totally agree but we can't cut our throats by not exploring local experience first. The Darlington group told me years ago about setting up a supporters trust they have gone down that route

What needs to be done is that we get together with no preconceptions and we start afresh

Bollocks what apology you seem to think you are the be all.and.f all of hufc

You do know the difference between a message board persona and real life?

On one hand you're saying we need to pull together then the next post you're having a pop!

Time to put this kinda shit to one side Appleyard.

Of course chips opinionated, we all are, it's why we're on here, and of course it's why he thinks he's right, and why I think I'm right, and why yloop thinks he's right etc etc.

He's never claimed to be the voice of pools fans. Just of himself.

Time to put this forum all to one side n work together.,


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I bet there are plenty who are twats in both!!

I'm sick of seeing doom and gloom we can do something positive or give up what's it to be

There seem to be plenty of Pools fans who want to bicker and squabble about things and take offense about things written on a message board. The thing is Chip, whatever you want to think about him is passionate, articulate and at times I suppose comes across as opinionated. However over time not only is he able to put his points across in an intelligent way he also has called out a lot of the issues related to the club very early along with a lot of other members on here.

Chip doesn't pretend to be something he isn't, I suggest a few of the others on the board get over their petty chips on shoulders (no pun intended) and think about rallying together around what we need to do for the future of the club.

Another who has had stick is Elvis, I don't know him personally but know him indirectly (who doesn't) if there is a more genuine honest passionate bloke out there I would like to meet him.

The key point is that the fans should be pulling together to save this club from corrupt incompetent charlatans and instead we seem to be bickering amongst ourselves more than hounding Green/Hodcroft out of the club

Fully agree DH, let's get the ball rolling on Saturday.

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We all want the same thing let's get together without pre conceptions and move forward

When I had meetings with the supporters trust at Darlington over 10 years ago they told me then to look at setting one up at pools. I said that on here and was immediately shot down by many on here. A decade later look what has happened. I am desperate for the fans and the club to be a success. To do this we need to look into this with no preconceptions it has to be with an open mind.

What has gone has gone we have to move forward with an open mind and go armed with enough information possible. We have to do this as one with no factions or one agenda we have to be flexible.

10 years ago we were in the play offs, spending money and riding high with owners who seemed to give, of course you where probably shot down, it would have seemed daft at the time, playing the "i told you so" card wont really get us anywhere now though.

10 years ago not 1 single fan wanted rid of ior

What a stupid comment

Manchester united and spurs have supporters trusts they are doing really badly. Why does it have to be in the difficult times do we have to do this. Every lower league club should have one. By the way I am not stupid, far from it.

Who said you were stupid??

If you're going to hold a meeting don't go in with an agenda; go in with a bullet-pointed action plan. And look straight away for people to fill the roles. The plan can morph over time but that's not a problem. The essential thing is to have a visible starting point.

Easily said I know, but without it, the meeting risks being just so much hot air.

Creating a Supporters Trust doesn't mean you want to kick out the present or future owners. But it does mean you want an increasing influence and say in your club through bad times or good. At present you're in no position as fans to influence, decide or dictate future direction. By not organising, what does that say? A trust should be there for any eventuality, not just a crisis. Your problem, it seems, is lack of a small group of fans to drive it forward in the first instance