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 Post subject: England vs. New Zealand
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:11 am 
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Anybody other than me crazy enough to be watching this pitiful performance?


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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:39 am 
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I didn't bother. I knew England wouldn't win but thought they would of made a fight of it! Sounds like an embarrassing performance.


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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:43 am 
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That was a pasting of epic proportions.

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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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Peter Moores requires the bullet quickly.


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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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I didn't know England were playing.


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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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Bring them home now, they're a fucking embarrassment.

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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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Only england pick a virtual test team for an odi.

Old school thinking yet again.

Silly.

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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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Our bowling attack worries the fuck out of me in an ashes year.

Even more bizarre ben stokes was overlooked for this torny.

Dropping kp has never once looked like being a good decision, no matter how it's justified its never correct. A 1 day World Cup is made for players like him. Peter moores should have went a long time ago


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MadJohn wrote:
Finn to McCullum: 64.46.6666

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Disgraceful stats


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Thought I'd catch the last few overs when I got up for work this morning .. not to be :laugh:


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Peter Moores requires the bullet quickly.


He was shite first time around too.

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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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Eoin Morgan should never be allowed near a cricket bat ever again, come to think of it that goes for most of them. Bopara should definately be playing as should Stokes and Pietersen.


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I got up early to see the last couple of hours of the game only to find it was already over.


New depths for England.


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OddsOnPhil wrote:
Eoin Morgan should never be allowed near a cricket bat ever again, come to think of it that goes for most of them. Bopara should definately be playing as should Stokes and Pietersen.


Na, don't wanna upset the dressing room now do we


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Peter moores should have went a long time ago


He did but the silly sods brought him back!


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Giles Clarke, Paul Downton & Peter Moores

Three Englishmen who have done more damage to English cricket than any Australian attack could manage.


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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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Hope Colly manages to pull off a shock...

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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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Looking forward to the test matches this year . 1st one for me only 10 weeks away.
Bring it on !


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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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There's no doubt that Bopara and Stokes should be in the side. Possibly Hales too.

I'm not one who wants KP back. He's slagged off half the members of that side anyway and he's just as capable of giving his wicket away in the embarrassing manner the players did today. I'd rather have James Taylor in there than him.


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Watched it till 3 a.m. (had jetlag so would have been awake anyway) but gave up when Morgan was out playing his first really aggressive shot. The game was over as a contest even then, though I did think that England might struggle to 175 or thereabouts.

England are absolute no-hopers in this competition - Pools have more chance of staying up than England have of making the semi-finals - it's that bad.

Losing to Scotland or Bangladesh and not qualifying for the next stage would be a blessing in disguise - England will do nowt in short form cricket till Paul Collingwood is team manager.


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Give me KP over the half he slagged off any day.

And the other half.

Losers to a man

Root apart.

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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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Ritchies birthmark wrote:
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Finn to McCullum: 64.46.6666

(ouch)


Disgraceful stats


They are bad but you can't have a go at the bowlers, even Finn. They had absolutely nothing to bowl at and New Zealand were always to chase the runs as quickly as possible for net run rates purposes. With the fielding restrictions even tighter than T20 and McCullum in the awesome form he is they were on an absolute hiding to nothing.


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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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Please stop trying to make excuses for them.

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He'd argue in an empty room though so I'm not suprised he's defending a bowler who went for 44 off 10 balls.


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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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England aren't up to standard in any department. McCullum's fielding while I was watching was unbelievable - he was saving runs for fun and inspiring his team to try to match his performance. New Zealand play with even more intensity and desire than the Aussies.

England haven't got a destructive batsman at the top of the order, or a stand out fielder, or a 'death' bowler.

In fact, none of the attributes a team needs to win a top class 50 overs game. They play like they expect to lose.


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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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I don't buy into this 'Stokes and Bopara should be playing' bollocks

We'd still be shit, potentially worse with them two there

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MadJohn wrote:
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They are bad but you can't have a go at the bowlers, even Finn.

Of course you can. It was a collective failure. Yes the batting was every bit as bad, and gave the bowlers next to no target. But it was still shit bowling.


300 is a par to below par score these days the game is stacked so much in the batsmens favour. They might have bowled poorly but they have been no opportunity to bowl well. Facing a target of 123 someone like McCullum (who is one of the best batsmen in the World right now and arguably the most destructive) is going to tee off from ball one, he knows that for the first ten overs England can only have two out of the circle. He has complete licence to go from ball one. It's an absolute hiding to nothing for the bowlers you can't call it it collective responsibility when the batting performance ends the game as a contest you can't defend that sort of total in modern day ODI cricket.


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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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Interesting to see what McCullum does to the Aussie attack in the 1st 10 overs to potentially back up what your saying


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Interesting to see what McCullum does to the Aussie attack in the 1st 10 overs to potentially back up what your saying


But I doubt against Australia he is chasing 120, he'll most likely be batting with the intention of being at the crease for 50 overs not knowing if he comes off the game will be over by the 10th like today. He had the complete licence and freedom to bat like that because of the meagre and laughable total England set.


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I dont get why more people arent questioning the selection policy.

when the rest of the world try to destroy bowlers we select 4 or 5 very correct test match batsmen.

its like we are saying we dont like odi,s so are going to deliberately pick test players.

we are still stuck in the 70s

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I don't that's true really. Most of the best players in the World play both formats they just adapt better. I think our best and most consistent ODI player is Joe Root good players are good players. We've tried the likes of Luke Wright and the bottom line is you still need to have a technique that's good enough to face the Worlds best bowlers or you're going to get out cheaply a lot.

I don't think the squad is too far off what most people would pick from the players available. It's amazing how good Stokes has become by not being involved most on here (not me) were suggesting the lad wasn't up to it when he was in the team. Why do they always change things on the eve of a World Cup though though? Taylor averages 50 in list A cricket and has had a good start to his ODI career why drop him down to six for the Australia game? It's a nonsense it's almost like nothing is planned its all off the cuff 'oh we'll do this today. They should gives Hales a run in the team he has ability to take bowlers apart and has shown glimpses at World T20 level. I don't know what's happened to Morgan's batting he looks half the player he was.

I don't what the answer is? We just don't seem to have the swagger and confidence that other teams have we seem to play with fear.


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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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Chris Gayle would get in the England team right now!

He has completely lost how to bat properly 50 overs is a long time to bat compared to 20, he'd be better off just trying to smash it like he does in the IPL.


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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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Aye he is shite that gayle.

Couldnt hit a barn door with a banjo.

England have better players.

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Aye he is shite that gayle.

Couldnt hit a barn door with a banjo.

England have better players.


Exclamation marks normally denote humour, here's a little secret for you I wasn't really suggesting Gayle wouldn't get in the England team.

HTH.

Good former the tournament that he has returned to form in style.


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PJPoolie wrote:
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Aye he is shite that gayle.

Couldnt hit a barn door with a banjo.

England have better players.


Exclamation marks normally denote humour,



No they dont. If used in brackets they can 'denote humour'

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 Post subject: Re: England vs. New Zealand
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So on Friday pj had a pop at Chris gayle "he has completely forgot how to bat properly in 50 overs"

Next match gayle scores the highest innings innworld cup history

Pj claims he was kidding

:laugh: :laugh: comedy gold


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Ritchies birthmark wrote:
So on Friday pj had a pop at Chris gayle "he has completely forgot how to bat properly in 50 overs"

Next match gayle scores the highest innings innworld cup history

Pj claims he was kidding

:laugh: :laugh: comedy gold


I was joking about him not getting in the England team but his form in ODI cricket has been awful by anyone's standards today was his first hundred in this format for nearly 2 years and in that time he has averaged 17. Plus having watched his first two innings of the competition he looked way out of touch and not sure how to go about building an innings which does probably come from the amount of T20 cricket he plays these days.

We are not going through this tedious thing of everything I post your going to have a pop at are we? I'm sure nobody can be arsed with that especially me.


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