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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:01 pm 
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... because we're clearly not out of the mire by a long, long way, do we look as though we're turning a corner, or is this just the law of averages saying we're bound to win the odd one now and then?

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Nah, Ronnie has definitely improved things on the pitch. Shame it's the farce off it that has really killed our league status off. How certain people are still in position and in a job at that place is unbelievable. Wonder if we can get the FL to step in?


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Nah, Ronnie has definitely improved things on the pitch. Shame it's the farce off it that has really killed our league status off. How certain people are still in position and in a job at that place is unbelievable. Wonder if we can get the FL to step in?


What are the FL going to do? Run the club for us? It's not like we have a queue of people with money wanting to run the club.


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The 3 loan signings make a huge difference. Moore nearly fucked up big style by making no subs, players blowing out of their arses and Woods didn't dare make a tackle cos he was on a final warning yet no subs? Thought it was disgraceful.

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Gerry Mandrake wrote:
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Nah, Ronnie has definitely improved things on the pitch. Shame it's the farce off it that has really killed our league status off. How certain people are still in position and in a job at that place is unbelievable. Wonder if we can get the FL to step in?


What are the FL going to do? Run the club for us? It's not like we have a queue of people with money wanting to run the club.


Yeah cos I meant I want the FL to run the club.......what do you think I mean?


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54 points to play for and we need 29 or 1.6 on average a game. Still a long way to go.

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To put it into perspective we should pick up around 5 more points from draws, and would need to have around a 45% chance of winning every game to get our expected points to that target, i can't even remember the last time we were favourites for a league game this season.

Its defiantly a big ask but when the points required is so low a couple of wins can change it for example if we got 7 points from the next 3 games… (big ask)

We would need 1.45 points per game and the chance of a win per game drops to 40%


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Anything can still happen. We have everyone around us to play still minus Tranmere. Everyone has each other to play still. We just need to keep up our form from the last 3 games


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The good thing is we are now within 9 points of 8 teams above us. Another couple of positive results ASAP and things could look a whole lot better.

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misterb2001 wrote:
The good thing is we are now within 9 points of 8 teams above us. Another couple of positive results ASAP and things could look a whole lot better.


This is a massive positive. They can't all win every week.

Hopefully we can get something next weekend and then kick on with back to back home games.

3 games unbeaten. Can anyone confirm how long it is since we achieved this?


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If we still keep picking up points that will mean more teams around us will get dragged into the relegation dogfight. There is nearly always a team or two which goes into free fall.

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If we still keep picking up points that will mean more teams around us will get dragged into the relegation dogfight. There is nearly always a team or two which goes into free fall.


Accrington Stanley? They seem to be in terrible form at the moment!


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Mansfield now 23rd. Surely they will now recall Bingham as must be a month now?

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All the teams at the bottom aren't going to keep on winning, and there are a hell of a lot to choose from on 30 points or fewer, even if we discard those who have games in hand on us.
To catch up 9 points in 18* games (which would collaterally improve our goal difference, so 9 might be enough), we have to better the others by one point in every two games. That might not sound a lot but it is. Not a mountain though, more of a long steep hill.

A John Hughes-type five-game spurt would flatten that hill an awful lot. We can only hope.

*Edit: I had mistyped 18 as 30 but the maths was OK.

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Chip Fireball wrote:
The 10 outfield players today were superb.

Can I make an assumption about the 11th from that remark?

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Flinders pulled off a cracking save at 3-1. Had no chance with both goals and generally his handling was good. Did flap at one cross in which he punched Austin rather than the ball

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Scott Fenwicks goals/games ratio must be impressive as it stands?

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He looks like he has a goal in him every match. First time we can say that since Joel Porter.

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Flinders looked injured towards the end - surprised Maxted wasn't given a chance.


And Franks was awesome for the first twenty minutes........


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Funnily enough I was just thinking about how Neale Cooper ran Joel into the ground every game before subbing him at 65-ish minutes.

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Fenwick is up there with the best strike ratios in history. This lad has something, I would put a sneaky few quid on him playing at premiership level. Simply based on the fact that a player with the knack of scoring has that knack at any level. Look at the likes of Lambert.


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Fenwick is up there with the best strike rations in history.


So you're saying the miners were well fed?

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Friggin autocorrect!!

I do believe he is a yakker isn't he?


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Jf to pools rescue. He is shite according to a few on here. Bollocks to you. Whenever i have seen the guy he gives is all. Well pleased for him today. Was not there but im guessing he did okay.?


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Chip Fireball wrote:
After today I think it can be said with a fair degree of certainty that a corner has been turned. It may still be too late, but this team bears little or no resemblance to the one that looked bereft of ideas and confidence before Christmas.

Without a shadow of a doubt the new lads Fenwick, Harrison, Tshibola and Bingham have all brought a positive mental attitude to the team which seems to have rubbed off on others. Even the lads like Austin and Franks who looked like their confidence and desire was gone look rejuvenated.

The new formation gives us lots of attacking options, and I'm impressed with the fact Moore has binned the 4-4-2 people said he loved, and done away with starting with a big target man.

The 10 outfield players today were superb, as has been said the only thing you couldn't get your head round was why substitutions weren't made when we had players who were clearly struggling.

To cap things off I even had a tenner on us to win today !

The only real downer was a lot of the other teams at the bottom winning. It shows just what a mountain we have to climb when we have taken 7 points from the last 4 games and have only closed the gap between us and safety by a point.


Well fuckety fuck ( :wink: ) me Chip....This ^^

Fenwick was out on his feet and needed subbing with about 10 left.....he was excellent today though.

Austin was back to his reliable self of a few months back.

If only Ronnie had come in when Murray was chosen we'd be a lot nearer safety.

A few weeks ago, when Plymouth equalised we'd have gone on to concede another 3.

The only cloud is the ownership debacle but the players can't affect that so I will continue to support them and Ronnie.


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Thought Bates was immense today he ran the show. Cracking all round team display.


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By the way did anyone else notice early on when their big number 29 (Abbott?) tried barging into Tshibola and he simply bounced off him? Tshibola didn't move a muscle.

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Big number 29 was Hartley, that's always been his shirt number choice :wink:


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Hartley came on after 68 minutes, Talbot no 27 maybe or Brunt 28?

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Brunt sorry yeah

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The 3 loan signings make a huge difference. Moore nearly fucked up big style by making no subs, players blowing out of their arses and Woods didn't dare make a tackle cos he was on a final warning yet no subs? Thought it was disgraceful.



Eh??? The only sub he should of made was for for Flinders..........no way should he have made any others subs..........blowing out of there arse..................my arse......


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Chip Fireball wrote:
Think he got that conjunctivitis again the way he played.

Seen him after the game and his dress sense ain't got any better either.


Oh come on, he's improved a lot.

He didn't give a penalty away for a start...


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The 3 loan signings make a huge difference. Moore nearly fucked up big style by making no subs, players blowing out of their arses and Woods didn't dare make a tackle cos he was on a final warning yet no subs? Thought it was disgraceful.



Eh??? The only sub he should of made was for for Flinders..........no way should he have made any others subs..........blowing out of there arse..................my arse......


Ok. :roll:

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Think he got that conjunctivitis again the way he played.

Seen him after the game and his dress sense ain't got any better either.


Oh come on, he's improved a lot.

He didn't give a penalty away for a start...


His first touch was a handball in the box which the bell end of a linesman was right in front of but he didn't dare give a decision all game.

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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
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Think he got that conjunctivitis again the way he played.

Seen him after the game and his dress sense ain't got any better either.


Oh come on, he's improved a lot.

He didn't give a penalty away for a start...


His first touch was a handball in the box which the bell end of a linesman was right in front of but he didn't dare give a decision all game.


Same lino that talked the ref out of giving a second yellow when that lad halfed Tish?


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Could be all down to the last game at Carlisle...........now what should I wear?......or what am I allowed to wear?

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Brian Honour's Left Foot wrote:
Flinders looked injured towards the end - surprised Maxted wasn't given a chance.


And Franks was awesome for the first twenty minutes........


Flinders got injured after about 40 minutes when the centre floorboard clattered him in the ribs. He really should have been subbed in the last ten minutes his inabilaty to be able to kick the ball properly and clear his lines put us under pressure we shouldn't have been under.


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Looked like a groin injury? Could miss a game or two?

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You know what chip might have a point about wages on subs

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Do my eyes deceive me? All of the things I had said a few weeks ago about an improvement and being positive! Welcome to the club lads!!!


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People keep referring to the last game of the season at Carlisle, if we are still not down by then of course, but what if Carlisle are safe by then and have nothing to play for?, with a couple of ex-Pools players/loanee's in the side do you think they'd rather we stayed up at the expense of a Southern team or be happy to send us down........I reckon I'd know which it'd be.

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