Are we all agreed that the UK are right to send war planes over to bomb the living daylights out of these blood thirsty savages ?

Or do you think it has just signed the death warrant for the British hostage they have.

I seen a video today on Facebook of a few of them in a car driving along roads shooting cars passing to bits and if anyone get out they chased them and shot them it was unreal what i was watching.

How do we stop them is it a case of ground troops ?

I was reading there is between 7000-8000 of them surely the Iraq army can deal with them with Nato air support and help

Air strikes when used tactically are essential. The trouble is that the US tend to bomb the shit out of everything that moves and hit innocents as often as not.

Put it this way; say the North and South of the UK went to war against each other. You decided that you didn't agree with the fighting and stayed out of it. Then one day your house gets bombed by the South and all of your family is killed. Would you still remain out of it? or would you join the Northern brigade to get some revenge? This is essentially whats happened in the middle East. Moderate people have their families killed and immediately nip down to the local Jihadi outfitters.

We should do one of two things. We need an army of predominantly Arab soldiers, large enough, well trained enough and equipped enough to utterly annihilate IS. No messing about, destroy each and every one of them. Back that up with tactical air raids, artillery, logistics etc and whatever is needed in terms of Western support. They must be wiped out completely.

The other option is nuclear missiles. This is the one I'd choose.

I think you said the nuclear option tongue in cheek there wouldn't that just rally the whole Arab world against the people dropping the bomb and create a world war. One of these Arab countries also is nuclear.

Of course it was tongue in cheek. It's hard to drop a nuke without affecting civilians.

It's a set up and a pre cursor to a much bigger war.
As always Israel, the Yanks and UK are behind it

Sorry Mr I but you also served for a bunch of war mongering terrorists yourself

And this is why I declare I have no nationality, I belong to the league of human beings

We are just human ants to all these not nice people, and if needed they will wipe half the planet out to start again if it suited their agenda

That's breaking news compost, I can't think of any Arab country that has nukes, unless you are trying to count Pakistan.....

Not sure about that Mick. My wars were against a murdering government that invaded British territory. A terrorist/freedon fighter (choose your position) outfit who bombed innocent people in places such as Omagh.

I'm not sure how that makes me a terrorist.

Has the Uk done any more air strikes?

I think I read that their first one was on a Toyota pick up truck?

Must say I found that disappointing, was hoping was a big fuck off carpet bomb or similar rather than an attack on a nearly indestructible truck.

With a mounted machine gun.

Probably had one of them big fuck off black flags on the back too .. Well done the RAF..

doesn't make you one personally... it means you were carrying out orders on behalf of a society which is so structured that in any other eyes it would be classed as a terrorist country, or a "Great Satan"... which in my belief it also is

there's probably as much blood on the hands of the British Empire as any other past or present regime

it's all the same to me... cos the ones who get killed by hook or by crook, or by being sent off to war... are the likes of us

I'm hugely cynical about any 'news' that is reported from the middle east. At the end of the day there's shitloads of oil there and the west want their hands on it. It's easy to create some bogeymen for an excuse to wade in with weapons in the name of 'peacekeeping'. Anyone remember the weapons of mass destruction bollocks?

The answer is simple. Round up a few hundred radical muslims. Every time these "people" behead one of ours, retaliate by beheading a few of theirs. I don't want to hear the "we can't do that" brigade. We can do it and we should. The only language terrorists understand is terrorism, so let's terrorise them until they realise it is futile.

Liberal democracy is under threat (it isn't, far from it, but I'm playing along for now) so the answer is easy. Let's do away with liberal democracy. While we're in 'pub mode', does anyone else have a pressing, almost intractable situation, that needs addressing? Derwent is on a role.

I don't think I am advocating doing away with democracy, in fact I am demonstrating the opposite. I am exercising my democratic right to offer an answer to a problem. I am not, in any way shape or form, suggesting I have the only solution but I am putting forward a solution. If you want to take part in a debate on " solutions" why not put your solution forward so we can all dissect said solution.

In all seriousness we do need to wipe them off the face of the planet. To date terrorists/freedom fighters have fought for something which in their eyes is positive - usually against an oppressor (arguable in any situation). The difference with these nutters is that their only goal is the destruction of the west.

This is an enemy like we've never before faced. It's time for all out war gentlemen, No holds barred, no options discounted. Destroy them without mercy.

Exactly..............no mercy.

When it all starts going tits up for them which it will when the full might of the armed forces hit them and all of them fookers who went over to fight try to return what should we do with them ?

Make them disappear would be the easiest solution

Simple; put them on trial for treason. It's just a shame 1998 happened.

Targets will fall when hit and dead men don't fire back.

The best thing to do, would be an American/British soldier/vigilante..etc to capture an IS 'piece of shit', tie it up, then set it on fire, then put the clip on Youtube !

Sweet Jesus.....

Democracy means much much more than simply having a vote. Indeed, inherent in your response is the idea of freedom of speech; social, political (and I would argue, economic) rights are an integral part of liberal democracy. Your 'solution' is a rejection of those principles and is therefore a rejection of liberal democracy in favour of a totalitarian response.

As for my solution, I would never profess to know enough to be able to offer one, hence my somewhat sarcastic response to your suggestion. What I do know is that the situation is much more complex than portrayed in the news media (it's much more entertaining - yes, the news is mere entertainment - to blame it all on nutters), particularly the role of 'friendly' states like Turkey and Saudi.

I'm sure world peace isn't far away with the great ideas from this thread
*bombing them to bits
*rounding them up and beheading some of them
*setting someone on fire and then videoing it.....

I'm with Parmo, it's the same elite groups of people and agendas being served and the same people war profiteering. Will lessons ever be learned?

What I want to know is what's going to happen when the oil runs out? Surely Israel will no longer be of strategic importance to the west and it will just get left to its own devices?

And the alternative is?

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Eloquent.

Add to that list the free pass they've had to cross the border into Turkey (and funds, training and intelligence from Turkey). For a while, these nutters did a job for the West, so we helped. Again. And it's gone tits up, again. Yet we focus on the nut jobs and don't look at the bigger picture.

We need to keep them in their homelands .. Like any other bullies they will be afraid of someone with a bigger stick.. The alternative is to talk to them while they keep expanding at a rate of knots.. I seem to think we tried this before with someone else I and it didn't work.

This is the problem though, where is their 'homeland?' these people are recruited from all over. Also on the fear thing, they are brainwashed to such a scary and mental degree they think death is the ultimate reward.

It's a massively complex problem and I get the feeling these air strikes are almost to be seen to be doing something I can't see what impact they'll have apart from spawning more of these loonies.

Stop them getting easy access to Europe .. If they get that they will export their "culture" worldwide ..The best option is to destroy them as they we all know extremists of whatever type never listen to logic . Learn from history. Make sure these brainwashed kids know what they're getting involved with.. Let's face it they have as much to do with Islam as the aforementioned European Nutter had to do with Christianity

What about the ones born in Europe????

their ideology is based around religion.

If they became a bigger threat, and the more innocent victims there are, you could quite easily see this becoming a war against Islam.

Its quite scary to contemplate that.

Its not like there hasnt been many historical examples of a war against a religious group.

These imaginary beings have a lot to answer for.

to be fair, chip's not fat......

The whole thing is organised by people in the background, very wealthy and powerful people. It will make perfect sense to them. We will never understand such people because we tend to have empathy for our fellow man. Everyone getting involved in this conflict is psychotic - the difference is some have the money and some have the weapons given to them by the men with the money
And some of those men are British and American and Israeli, most likely ordering the Saudis to fund this organisation

The shit in Ukraine as well, and it seems there' s skullduggery afoot to wipe loads of folks out

And I wouldn't t trust anything they say on telly, it's all skewed

Who is really giving the money to the extremists? Cos some twat is

IS are just another pawn in the game

Maybe I was a little OTT in my post, but I don't like being labelled an 'imbecile' by someone who has never met me. Just because I don't type interesting/long or informative posts, doesn't make me a 'grade one imbecile'. We do have one thing in common though Chip, and that is Hartlepool United. Thought you could have at least taken that into account before you slagged me off. I apologize for my post about you, and also my IS comment.

Unfortunately this is no surprise. A bloke who was trying to help the ragheads has been beheaded.


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It was inevitable . We need to go to war with them like.

It really is time to wipe out these worthless terrorist scum.

[quote="Mr Irrelevant"]Unfortunately this is no surprise. A bloke who was trying to help the ragheads has been beheaded.


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Pure evil kunts

this is a man who gave up his day to day life to help innocent women and children....

God bless you alan RIP

Why cant the people of the world be as one.. Why Why Why.

We need to wipe them out with the same level of ruthlessness that they show to their prisoners. Of course Assad is a bad guy - hardly shock horror that one. Hezbollah, Al Queda, Is, Hamas etc etc, they are all much of a muchness but they're getting stronger and coming our way.

They will not negotiate, they will not back down, they will keep coming until one day they find a way to attack us with a dirty bomb or worse.

Irrespective of who is backing them we must take them out along with any of their supporters in this country. If this means a war against the whole islam world then so be it.

And these air strikes are what?

Again the media coverage is giving them exactly what they crave.

I thank god your not one of the families who have been beheaded by this evil scum.

This

Kill the bastards

Every single one of the horrible not nice people