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 Post subject: Poolie drivers in Nottingham
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:58 am 
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Deviously Placed Mobile Speed Trap?
July 21, 2014 6:38 pm 3 Comments
Nottingham’s most profitable speed camera is a mobile camera van, which is located on The A52 “Clifton Boulevard”.

The speed trap generated a whopping 4,815 speeding tickets last year…

It operates in both directions of the 40mph dual carriageway.

But here’s the thing…

It’s conveniently located just at the end of an average speed camera zone, where motorists believe they are clear of the cameras, only to be immediately caught by the mobile van!

A local Speeding Solicitor has called for it to be replaced with a normal, visible speed camera, saying:

“Sometimes the van is partially obscured by a lamp post, so it is not surprising that people don’t see it.”

It seems to me like another strategically placed mobile trap, designed to extract money rather than to slow Drivers down in an accident blackspot, as Speed Cameras are supposed to do.

But what do you think?

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 Post subject: Re: Poolie drivers in Nottingham
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I hate coppers.

And anyone thinks this is a good idea.

I got done in May in Manchester.

The M602 was closed at the junction with M60.

We got diverted into Manchster city centre.

I was trying to get to the M62 and it was 4pm on a friday afternoon. Busy as fuck, with no sat nav.

I was a convoy all trying to do the same thing.

At some point on Rochdale road? I was caught doing 43 in what I later found to be a 30mph zone, even though it was duel carriageway.

I didnt see a camera or a van as I was concentrating on every bloody road sign trying to find the M62.

So got done.

I hope the copper dies a horrible death, and yes I DO mean it.

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 Post subject: Re: Poolie drivers in Nottingham
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:13 pm 
Been caught once, was stupid. Don't speed anymore, no point.


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Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:
I hate coppers.

And anyone thinks this is a good idea.

I got done in May in Manchester.

The M602 was closed at the junction with M60.

We got diverted into Manchster city centre.

I was trying to get to the M62 and it was 4pm on a friday afternoon. Busy as fuck, with no sat nav.

I was a convoy all trying to do the same thing.

At some point on Rochdale road? I was caught doing 43 in what I later found to be a 30mph zone, even though it was duel carriageway.

I didnt see a camera or a van as I was concentrating on every bloody road sign trying to find the M62.

So got done.

I hope the copper dies a horrible death, and yes I DO mean it.


Have to concur with Dibbs re the M60 debacle. Got me too last year, but I appealed and got let off.

Almost as bad as the A1 going through the Scottish border :angry-screaming:

...try telling me these things aren't just one giant cash cow for the rozzers... :angry-tappingfoot:

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 Post subject: Re: Poolie drivers in Nottingham
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:30 pm 
Read the stats, the government make next to fuck all on the cameras. Saw on Top Gear a few years back Simon Cowell's tax bill is higher than the entire countries income from speed cameras.

If no one drive like a tit then there wouldn't be any need for them, no point moaning about being trapped, you're still doing something illegal.


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Not a moan in the slightest, I just happen to know as a FACT that in the geographical zones referred to, income from fines FAR outweighs the cost of enforcement.

As for the rest of the country... sctatchinghead

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yloop wrote:
Read the stats, the government make next to fuck all on the cameras. Saw on Top Gear a few years back Simon Cowell's tax bill is higher than the entire countries income from speed cameras.

If no one drive like a tit then there wouldn't be any need for them, no point moaning about being trapped, you're still doing something illegal.


Oh do please get fucked.

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 Post subject: Re: Poolie drivers in Nottingham
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:37 pm 
Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:
yloop wrote:
Read the stats, the government make next to fuck all on the cameras. Saw on Top Gear a few years back Simon Cowell's tax bill is higher than the entire countries income from speed cameras.

If no one drive like a tit then there wouldn't be any need for them, no point moaning about being trapped, you're still doing something illegal.


Oh do please get fucked.


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Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:
yloop wrote:
Read the stats, the government make next to fuck all on the cameras. Saw on Top Gear a few years back Simon Cowell's tax bill is higher than the entire countries income from speed cameras.

If no one drive like a tit then there wouldn't be any need for them, no point moaning about being trapped, you're still doing something illegal.


Oh do please get fucked.


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 Post subject: Re: Poolie drivers in Nottingham
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yloop wrote:
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yloop wrote:
Read the stats, the government make next to fuck all on the cameras. Saw on Top Gear a few years back Simon Cowell's tax bill is higher than the entire countries income from speed cameras.

If no one drive like a tit then there wouldn't be any need for them, no point moaning about being trapped, you're still doing something illegal.


Oh do please get fucked.


Are you going to be doing said fucking?


Of course not. I will leave it to one of your jobsworth friends. You know one of those letter of the law merchants that you clearly love.

Maybe a copper could do it. They enjoy fucking people over.

Apart from criminals, real ones, that are too difficult to deal with.

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 Post subject: Re: Poolie drivers in Nottingham
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:44 pm 
Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:
yloop wrote:
Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:

Oh do please get fucked.


Are you going to be doing said fucking?


Of course not. I will leave it to one of your jobsworth friends. You know one of those letter of the law merchants that you clearly love.

Maybe a copper could do it. They enjoy fucking people over.

Apart from criminals, real ones, that are too difficult to deal with.


Yes, people who drive cars too fast and kill people aren't criminals.

I simply don't see what is to be gained from speeding, usually you end up bunched up at the next junction anyway so it saves you no time. Neither you nor I is skillful enough to react to a situation when breaking the speed limit, that's a massive fact.

And anyone who speeds with their kids in the car is a 'lovely lovely person', a massive fucking 'lovely lovely person'.


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I actually drove about 2 miles out of my way yesterday at 20mph because I had some woman tailgating me. Was funny watching her get more and more irate and the hand signals started and a beep of the horn when I eventually turned off. I ended up being about 10 minutes late and was in a rush but was worth it.

Amazing how thick someone people can be to not click on and just back off.

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yloop wrote:

Yes, people who drive cars too fast and kill people aren't criminals.

I simply don't see what is to be gained from speeding, usually you end up bunched up at the next junction anyway so it saves you no time. Neither you nor I is skillful enough to react to a situation when breaking the speed limit, that's a massive fact.

And anyone who speeds with their kids in the car is a 'lovely lovely person', a massive fucking 'lovely lovely person'.


So me doing 43 in what clearly should have been a 40, whilst lost, makes me the same as some 'lovely lovely person' doing 120 on the M1 wih a car full of kids?

And you are leaving yourself wide open, the day you break the tiniest of laws. Cant fucking wait. :laugh:

You disappoint me. :roll:

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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
I actually drove about 2 miles out of my way yesterday at 20mph because I had some woman tailgating me. Was funny watching her get more and more irate and the hand signals started and a beep of the horn when I eventually turned off. I ended up being about 10 minutes late and was in a rush but was worth it.

Amazing how thick someone people can be to not click on and just back off.


Wow, the distances some people will go to be arsehole.

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 Post subject: Re: Poolie drivers in Nottingham
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:51 pm 
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yloop wrote:

Yes, people who drive cars too fast and kill people aren't criminals.

I simply don't see what is to be gained from speeding, usually you end up bunched up at the next junction anyway so it saves you no time. Neither you nor I is skillful enough to react to a situation when breaking the speed limit, that's a massive fact.

And anyone who speeds with their kids in the car is a 'lovely lovely person', a massive fucking 'lovely lovely person'.


So me doing 43 in what clearly should have been a 40, whilst lost, makes me the same as some 'lovely lovely person' doing 120 on the M1 wih a car full of kids?

And you are leaving yourself wide open, the day you break the tiniest of laws. Cant fucking wait. :laugh:

You disappoint me. :roll:


You did 43 in a 30, which is a built up area regardless of what you thought it should be. Kids could have been in the road, my point still stands. You're nothing but a common criminal who is fat.


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Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:
Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
I actually drove about 2 miles out of my way yesterday at 20mph because I had some woman tailgating me. Was funny watching her get more and more irate and the hand signals started and a beep of the horn when I eventually turned off. I ended up being about 10 minutes late and was in a rush but was worth it.

Amazing how thick someone people can be to not click on and just back off.


Wow, the distances some people will go to be arsehole.


Tailgating is being more of an arsehole imo.

Anything to make them realise it doesnt get you there quicker.

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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:
Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
I actually drove about 2 miles out of my way yesterday at 20mph because I had some woman tailgating me. Was funny watching her get more and more irate and the hand signals started and a beep of the horn when I eventually turned off. I ended up being about 10 minutes late and was in a rush but was worth it.

Amazing how thick someone people can be to not click on and just back off.


Wow, the distances some people will go to be arsehole.


Tailgating is being more of an arsehole imo.

Anything to make them realise it doesnt get you there quicker.


You'd fail your driving test for driving that much under the speed limit.

People driving way too slowly is every bit as dangerous as someone driving quickly up someone's arse.

I had a row with the missus on Sunday because she had a go at me for undertaking someone on the A19. They doing were 55mph in the outside lane. I went past him on the inside doing 70. For me it's best getting out of the way of someone driving like an arsehole the solution definitely isn't to also drive like a tit because you find it 'funny'


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PJPoolie wrote:

You'd fail your driving test for driving that much under the speed limit.



And they would fail for being too close to the car infront.

Whats your point? Im assuming we had both passed a driving test.

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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
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You'd fail your driving test for driving that much under the speed limit.



And they would fail for being too close to the car infront.

Whats your point? Im assuming we had both passed a driving test.


That intentionally driving way under the speed limit is every bit as dangerous as tailgating.


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PJPoolie wrote:
Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
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You'd fail your driving test for driving that much under the speed limit.



And they would fail for being too close to the car infront.

Whats your point? Im assuming we had both passed a driving test.


They intentionally driving way under the speed limit is every bit as dangerous as tailgating.


No its not.

At all.

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of course its dangerous. You are lucky someone didnt twat you.

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yloop wrote:

You did 43 in a 30, which is a built up area regardless of what you thought it should be. Kids could have been in the road, my point still stands. You're nothing but a common criminal who is fat.


Kids could have been in the road? In a duel carriageway that was wall to wall traffic as far as the eye could see?

And I wasnt overtaking any 'lovely lovely person' either. everyone was locked a convoy doing exactly the same.

You really should be a copper. You sound like one. Common sense brain cells removed and rigid law enforcement genes added.

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I would guess that most driving instructors would advise that the best way to deal with an aggressive tailgater would be to release the accelerator for a bit and slowly let your speed drop. They want to get past and you don't want to have to be constantly checking their movements as well as the road. If you're sharing a road with a bad driver you want them ahead of you, not behind you.



I agree totally, on a single lane though they are stuck behind me and id rather a tailgater behind me at a low speed than a high speed.

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Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:
of course its dangerous. You are lucky someone didnt twat you.



I didnt say it wasnt dangerous. :roll:

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Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:
yloop wrote:

You did 43 in a 30, which is a built up area regardless of what you thought it should be. Kids could have been in the road, my point still stands. You're nothing but a common criminal who is fat.


Kids could have been in the road? In a duel carriageway that was wall to wall traffic as far as the eye could see?

And I wasnt overtaking any 'lovely lovely person' either. everyone was locked a convoy doing exactly the same.

You really should be a copper. You sound like one. Common sense brain cells removed and rigid law enforcement genes added.



was it common sense to be over a third over the limit? :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Poolie drivers in Nottingham
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:52 pm 
Nearly 50% over the limit... in wall to wall traffic as well.

Captain sensible is Dibble.


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of course not, But like I said, I was lost, and no fucker knew it was thirty.. I bet thousands got caught that day.

It reminded me off the duel carriageway heading towards what remains of our hospital.

Many people still dont realise that that is a 30 zone. And the coppers know no 'lovely lovely person' knows.

Only busier.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:54 pm 
So it's your fault for making an assumption and doing 50% over the speed limit. Glad we've cleared this one up.


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Yep. Bang to rights.

I point still stands.

I hope the copper dies a horrible death.

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 Post subject: Re: Poolie drivers in Nottingham
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:08 pm 
The issue is, 40 year old speed limits and 2010's cars.

And the fact is that they can chuck up speed cameras and watch the cash roll in. Public transport is shite so everyone's in a car, the roads are shite, so everyone's late. You can't park anywhere, so they rake it in on parking fines.

No war on the motorists??

Yeah right.

I saw a bunch of traffic wardens hide round a corner off Camden High Street and when the gadgie delivering a bale of newspapers pulled up and went in to drop them off, by the time he came out they'd clamped him.

This was Sunday morning. :roll:


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:30 pm 
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The issue is, 40 year old speed limits and 2010's cars.


The same humans driving with a worse attitude to speed (see this thread for examples) and the feeling they are invincible.

It doesn't matter how quickly your car can stop if you can't react to what's infront of you, why take the risk to get to your turnoff quicker? It makes no sense to do it, drive to arrive.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:39 pm 
Drive to arrive??

Yeah OK, 7 years ago, my patch was the entire UK. The trains were shite, the air travel meant a drive, a check in and a two hour wait to get on the flight and a hire at the other end. Then the whole thing in reverse.

Or, you just drove the lot.

Fuck off, drive to arrive. It can mean a nineteen hour day. Is that an improvement in road safety? What are you supposed to do? Set off before you get home? :roll:


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:12 pm 
How is it the police fault, you speed, you risk fine and points, they have a job to do just like you Dribble, wishing someone dead, really!, are you 13 or just a odious 'lovely lovely person' bubble?


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Who says you can't drive safely at 90mph, in the dead of night on a straight motorway in a very well engineered car?


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How is it the police fault, you speed, you risk fine and points, they have a job to do just like you Dribble, wishing someone dead, really!, are you 13 or just a odious 'lovely lovely person' bubble?


Odious?

Thats you innit?

As for the copper..................yeh the poor lamb was just doing his job.

I take it all back.

I think you will find I am actually quite likeable......I dont cause nyone any chew, and would consider myself quite helpful.

I will never give to charity though, mot whilst our basatd police force see us all as a cash cow.

Fuck them, fuck you, fuck everyone..........apart from those I like.

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Who says you can't drive safely at 90mph, in the dead of night on a straight motorway in a very well engineered car?


The law.


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Aye and law is always right innit?

Of course it is. And I bey you have never broken any of them.

You will go to heaven.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:38 pm 
'Partially obscured by a lampost'....must have been a very thick lampost!!!! confised

So is it ok to murder someone in the middle of the night when no-one is about???? sctatchinghead

Rules are Rules!!!! :cool: :-D

Speeding Drivers = Fucking Idiots!!!! :evil:

BTW....Mr.Gloves....if you were lost and looking for signs to get you back on the M Whatever....I'd have thought you'd have been going slower not 'Speeding'!!!! :?


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On a related note there was a nastily placed cop car with speed gun on west view road parked next to the cemetery yesterday afternoon. I think it got me! :( . I was probably doing about 40 but I assume it's 30 along there despite the lack of pedestrians and the visibility being decent.

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Everyone who drives at some point breaks the speed limit, everyone I don't care what anyone says, you do. Take they bank down from Elwick where High Tunstall is, you have to break fairly hard to do less than 30 mph. Accidentally you can speed without even noticing your doing it.

But! Anyone who gets caught has nobody to blame other than themselves and there's no justification for driving like a knob head. Your reaction time is less and your stopping distance greater the faster you are going. You can drive safely over the speed limit on motorways and A roads but you do it at your own risk.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:10 pm 
yloop wrote:
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Who says you can't drive safely at 90mph, in the dead of night on a straight motorway in a very well engineered car?


The law.


Just one law or the 30,000 new laws that Blairs govenment put through parliament during their time, because they were scared to tax everyone anymore so they fined you all instead?

I think maybe you're in the 'if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear' camp. :roll:

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MadJohn wrote:
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On a related note there was a nastily placed cop car with speed gun on west view road parked next to the cemetery yesterday afternoon. I think it got me! :( . I was probably doing about 40 but I assume it's 30 along there despite the lack of pedestrians and the visibility being decent.


It's 40 innit?


It's 30, it only goes to 40 just before the roundabout. My point proven, everyone speeds :laugh:


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Yes, as you pass the cemetery it's 30. The 40 sign just before the roundabout is to tell you it's 40 after you exit the roundabout.


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MadJohn wrote:
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On a related note there was a nastily placed cop car with speed gun on west view road parked next to the cemetery yesterday afternoon. I think it got me! :( . I was probably doing about 40 but I assume it's 30 along there despite the lack of pedestrians and the visibility being decent.


It's 40 innit?

I wish. As pj said. It goes up to 40 further up the road. thinking about It I will have been doing 36 as my gauge over reads by about ten per cent. Still , will be expecting a ticket through the letterbox in a week or two :(

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all designed to confuse...........as its a money spinner.

GOD i HATE THESE not nice people.

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 Post subject: Re: Poolie drivers in Nottingham
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:46 am 
Spender wrote:
yloop wrote:
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Who says you can't drive safely at 90mph, in the dead of night on a straight motorway in a very well engineered car?


The law.


Just one law or the 30,000 new laws that Blairs govenment put through parliament during their time, because they were scared to tax everyone anymore so they fined you all instead?

I think maybe you're in the 'if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear' camp. :roll:

Otherwise known as Daily Mail readers.


Blair invented speed limits?!

Fucking hell...


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 Post subject: Re: Poolie drivers in Nottingham
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:44 pm 
No, Blair obviously didn't.

But his Government, once they'd raised taxes to a degree whereby there'd have been a revolt if they'd raised them more, then decided the other way to raise money was to invent new and more innovative ways to fine people.

Think variable speed limits. In the magistrates courts, speeding fines are based on limit +10% + 3mph. So on a motorway at 70 mph you're legal. Suddenly reduce that to 60mph and you're fucked. Is it safe to brake down by 10mph from 70mph? Probably not as two miles behind you people will have to stop if the traffic is reasonably dense. The cameras are mounted on the back of the gantry where the speed limit is displayed and therefore photograph you when you're about 20m beyond the sign.

So when do they invoke these variable speed limits?

Peak travel times.


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 Post subject: Re: Poolie drivers in Nottingham
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:19 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Poolie drivers in Nottingham
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:23 pm 
And has big signs with numbers in a red circle telling you so.


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