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 Post subject: Platini in 'talking sense' shocker!
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I think this makes sense . . . . . . . . . . but I'm a bit concerned that I agree with this arsehole.

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I agree about the goalkeepers but the sin bin idea is bollocks.


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I agree about the goalkeepers but the sin bin idea is bollocks.


He says goalkeepers shouldnt be sent off as penalty is enough. What if they bring someone down outside the box? Is a red card ok then? You cant say the same foul is worthy of different punishments because it either took place 17 yards from the goal or 19 yards from the goal.

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That 's probably bollocks as well when you think about it like that :laugh: The keeper also could deliberately drag down the forward and take a chance on a penalty knowing he won't get sent off.

He is just talking shite to distract people from him changing the World Cup draw because it didn't suit France.


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Or the fact he is still against goal line technology or a winter world cup in qatar

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I wish Platini and Blatter would be put in a permanent sin bin.. the corrupt wankers.

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Bad idea
It would just leave teams shutting shop for 10 mins whenever they got a yellow card, would lead to the game not flowing correctly.


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Is he actually proposing that a player gets sinned binned every time he is booked?

The bloke is mental. You'd have periods of 8 v 9. He was was a good player but clearly shouldn't be involved in running the game at any level.


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I actually think the reason other sports end up with "breakaway" associations is precisely because their sports have been controlled by idiots (corrupt ones at that) such as all the goons in charge at FIFA

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PoolieBarnes wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25235277

I think this makes sense . . . . . . . . . . but I'm a bit concerned that I agree with this arsehole.


I'm surprised anyone would agree with this. Yellow cards are extremely frequent now and bent refs would have a field day. The ref could decide who wins every single game and get away with it. Imagine watching an 11 v 7 for a few minutes. Howard Webb would have man utd back on top in no time.


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THEY WANT TO STAMP OUT CORRUPTION EH? REALLY? cHORTLE!! aS pOOLIE bARNES SAYS, HOW EASY WOULD THIS BE THEN?

tHE PLAYERS INVOLVED COULD EASILY GET THEMSELVES BINNED!!!!

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It would be as easy as an inverted caps punk rock style message

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It's our game, we invented it and we know best - keep your noses out Johnny Foreigner ;-)


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Believing sin bins would result in 8 vs 9 is going totally overboard. If games are really being played so badly that 5 bookings in less than ten minutes is a regular occurence then something does need to be done.
So, a player goes off for ten minutes, serves him right, serves his team right, and you never know, it might even deter his future rash challenges. Especially when (accepting for a moment the dreaded outcome happens) a team finds itself down to 8 men game after game.
Obviously the list of sin binnable offences would need revising. It would be plain stupid to send a player off ten minutes for pulling his shirt over his head.


So is the real reason people are against this is because it's an American invention and also used in rugby? If so stop beating about the bush and just slag off the Yanks and the egg chasers and get it over with.

P.S. I also was in total shock and wondered what Platini could have been taking.

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Power plays are nothing to with football the game doesn't need reinventing. The general concenous is that sending offs spoil games of football as the team down to less men set up very defensively. Why bring something in that is going to see uneven numbers on the field become almost the norm?

It's utter bollocks.


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Er, no it isn't.

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If you want to watch that go and watch Rugby.

I fail to see how it would make the game better, it certainly wouldn't make it better to watch and turn certain matches into total farces. It would also put referees under ridiculous pressure. The more you think about it the worse an idea it sounds.


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Believing sin bins would result in 8 vs 9 is going totally overboard. If games are really being played so badly that 5 bookings in less than ten minutes is a regular occurence then something does need to be done.
So, a player goes off for ten minutes, serves him right, serves his team right, and you never know, it might even deter his future rash challenges. Especially when (accepting for a moment the dreaded outcome happens) a team finds itself down to 8 men game after game.
Obviously the list of sin binnable offences would need revising. It would be plain stupid to send a player off ten minutes for pulling his shirt over his head.


So is the real reason people are against this is because it's an American invention and also used in rugby? If so stop beating about the bush and just slag off the Yanks and the egg chasers and get it over with.

P.S. I also was in total shock and wondered what Platini could have been taking.


What a load of Fukn bollocks. So is every yellow card a "rash challenge" and also the players own fault and "serves him and his team right". Awful statements. Refs are basically shit, at our level extremely shite, they do favour sides and that's the truth. If we came up against a ref on a 'bad day' he could decide if we win or lose. He judges what's a yellow and some of the cards we see regularly over here are for next to nothing.

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totally out of touch with the wishes of football fans in my opinion, stupid idea and needs binning immediately before it even gets off the ground

As has been touched on, what an easy way to manipulate a match fixing situation

The integrity of the game would end up in tatters inside 5 years

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Refs are basically shit, at our level extremely shite,


This is the main point why it wont work. Making a law in football means in need to be carried through the whole game top to bottom. This will not work in for instance on a sunday morning footy when I could see games being called off when a team reaches 7 men.

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Sin bin would work .. it works in Rugby.. Anyone who think it would end in 8v9 are idiots...bookings for dissent would be none existent for a fact!


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And the ref would have to think so would be far less likely to give a stupid card for what was an innocuous tackle


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Sin bin would work .. it works in Rugby.. Anyone who think it would end in 8v9 are idiots...bookings for dissent would be none existent for a fact!


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Idiots?

So two players have been sent off in a match (one on either side) hardly completely irregular and in the last ten minutes of a match 3 players get booked, again with tiring legs and a totting up process of previous fouls not inconceivable you have a match finishing 9 v 8. Who wants to watch that?

Referees are under enough scrutiny and pressure now bookings could decide a match in era when you don't have to do a lot to get sent off. Farcical, not that much is wrong with the game to need to change it that much.

Rugby and Football shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence they are completely different games.

4 or 5 bookings a game is not uncommon who wants to watch half of nearly every game played with uneven teams!? He says the opposition don't benefit from a player being booked. They do as the player knows one more error and he's off.... that's enough.

Anyway just my idiotic thoughts.


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You couldnt have 5 people off on one team at all as the match would be have to be called off

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Please tell me where I have said that?

I mean 4 or 5 in the match not one team. I'd say that is a fairly average number of bookings for a match these days.


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Change the rules for bookings how many do you see that are unnecessary? How many do you see in u18's as compared with Sunday Morning Pub Football.. There's no discipline there needs to be . Once players realise
there is an outcome rather than a slap on the wrist and a £10 fine things will change. The same excuse was used in Rugby before they started using it too..


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Do you think Platini was talking about kids and Sunday morning footy!?

It might actually be a better system at that level. It would be a complete nightmare for a ref on his own though so probably impractical.


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This idea is about as useful as platini's 5th official behind the goal bollox, or his extension of the european championships, or his idea to play the euros all over europe.

The mains a goon.

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I don't understand what the official behind the goal actually does, he just stands there with a stick.. Utterly pointless.

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Why is it? They said it would end up like that in Rugby ..It never... If there was a sin bin bookings for dissent would non existent... FACT


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I agree something need to be done about dissent and I think that the sin bin idea should only be used for this.

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Football is football and rugby is rugby and never the two shall meet.

Leave the friggin game alone for fucks sake.

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Exactly leave the bastard twatting game alone n stop trying to re-invent it.

It's not rugby, it will never be rugby, I dont want it to be like rugby, if i wanted it to be like rugby id watch frigging rugby.

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One of the few things id like to see changed is refs booking players for picking the ball up and then dropping it once they have ran away stopping the team taking it quickly. Book the fuckers ffs.

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Cant we just stick blatter n platini in a space rocket n shoot em up to space n they can invent space footy on the moon and do whatever they like with it.

Then we can get sensible geezers to run the game.

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Why is it? They said it would end up like that in Rugby ..It never... If there was a sin bin bookings for dissent would non existent... FACT


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You are talking about dissent. One thing you can be booked for and probably the rarest thing people are booked for at professional level.

Platini is proposing a ten minute sin bin for every booking which is bonkers.


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when you consider this is sport, and played in most countries, the majority of which have freedom of speech and expression, yet its led by the bentest (is that a word?) organisation in the world, probably more bent than the most corrupt dictatorships.

It is amazing, and alarming, that our FA and Government are so afraid to tell them to get stretched, and start a more democratic organisation. They have far too much to lose, so dance to their corrupt tune.

Actually, it says more about our FA and government than it does about FIFA.

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The sin bin is a good idea, but it needs to be for offences more serious than a yellow, but as serious as a red.

Infact it could replace most reds, which are usually unnecessary

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Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:
The sin bin is a good idea, but it needs to be for offences more serious than a yellow, but as serious as a red.

Infact it could replace most reds, which are usually unnecessary


I sort of agree with that, it is far too easy to get sent off. Maybe they could introduce a 'joker' card in between a yellow and red depicting a two headed beast with Platini and Blatter's faces.

Or we could of course LEAVE THE GAME HOW IT IS!!! As the sport itself is fine the problem is corrupt devoid of reality and common sense fuckers like those two suggesting daft rule changes because they've got fuck all else to do :angry-screaming: :laugh:


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:43 pm 
The idea has it's merits. You can't appeal a yellow card so a time off the pitch, though I think ten minutes is too long, is instant retribution. In rugby it's usually for violence, and is a good way to calm somebody down who's full of adrenalin.

Waving a card at a player who's hell bent on revenge and leaving him on the pitch is not always a good idea. We see managers substituting players who've lost it, so they don't get sent off.

Needs work but not a daft idea.


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