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 Post subject: Matty Dolan
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:16 pm 
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extended stay for another month


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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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Happy with that. Wonder why we don't try for longer to avoid the sweat at the end of each month.


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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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Think its classed as a youth loan and can only be monthly, good chance i am totally wrong though.


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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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Is this the last time we can sign him, unless there a break between us doing so ? if a break how long is it for ?

Loans can only (or used to be only 93 days/3 month long) but it may changed with the emergency loan window(s).. Hopefully we can extend it but can anyone confirm if I'm right or not

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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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Snakeyes wrote:
Think its classed as a youth loan and can only be monthly, good chance i am totally wrong though.



That's spot on, that's why we can only do a month at a time.


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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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Is this the last time we can sign him, unless there a break between us doing so ? if a break how long is it for ?

Loans can only (or used to be only 93 days/3 month long) but it may changed with the emergency loan window(s).. Hopefully we can extend it but can anyone confirm if I'm right or not


Youth loans are done on a monthly basis.


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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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yogi wrote:
Fetish_Bob wrote:
Is this the last time we can sign him, unless there a break between us doing so ? if a break how long is it for ?

Loans can only (or used to be only 93 days/3 month long) but it may changed with the emergency loan window(s).. Hopefully we can extend it but can anyone confirm if I'm right or not


Youth loans are done on a monthly basis.


I thought Burgess was a youth loan, he's 6 months.

I have a feeling three months is the maximum as you can't be a short term loan and long in the same season at the same club, beyond three months is classed as long term.


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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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Burgess was a six month loan until xmas


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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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I think burgess is on a senior contract so will just be a normal loan. not sure about Dolan but the way its only being done 1 month at a time looks like he's classed as a youth player same as they did with wyke last year even though he's 20?


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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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Fetish_Bob wrote:
Is this the last time we can sign him, unless there a break between us doing so ? if a break how long is it for ?

Loans can only (or used to be only 93 days/3 month long) but it may changed with the emergency loan window(s).. Hopefully we can extend it but can anyone confirm if I'm right or not

Emergency and Youth Loans. Subject to the provisions of Regulation 52.2, Emergency Loan and Youth Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with the following provisions:

53.3.1 Notwithstanding the definition of Parent Club, Emergency and Youth Loans may only be concluded with clubs affiliated (directly or through County Football Associations) to the Football Association unless any club not so affiliated plays in any of the competitions set out in Regulation 53.2.1.

53.3.2 Emergency and Youth Loans are permitted both during the Transfer Windows and, subject to the provisions of Regulation 53.3.5, also during a Closed Period between Clubs (or, as applicable, clubs) in membership of The Football League, The Premier League and The Football Conference (Premier Division).

53.3.3 During the Transfer Windows, Emergency Loans and Youth Loans are also permitted between Clubs and, as applicable, clubs in membership of the Football Conference (North), Football Conference (South), Northern Premier League, the Isthmian League and Southern League providing the rules and regulations of the respective league so allow. Any Emergency Loan concluded in accordance with this Regulation may be renewed during a Closed Period provided the renewal is simultaneous with the expiry of the immediately preceding period of the Emergency Loan.

53.3.4 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulations 53.3.2 and 53.3.3, a Player cannot be registered on an Emergency Loan or Youth Loan:

(a) during the period of seven days after the end of a Transfer Window;

(b) in the first half of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in November; and

(c) in the second half of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in March

unless in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 54.

53.3.5 Only:

(a) Scholars who are in the second or third (if that option is exercised) year of their Scholarship Agreement; or

(b) Contract Players aged 20 or under on 1st July immediately preceding the Season in question,

may be registered on a Youth Loan.

53.3.6 It shall be a condition of any Youth Loan involving a Scholar, or a Contract Player who continues to qualify as an Academy Player, that for the duration of the period of the Youth Loan the Player continues to fully comply with the programme of education in place for that Player.

53.3.7 A Player registered on a Youth Loan may, provided this is agreed between the two clubs and the Player, continue to train with and/or play for his Parent Club (or club) in any match other than matches played as part of the Premier League Competition, League Competition, League Cup, Football Association Challenge Cup or Football League Trophy (First Team Matches). Participation by the Player in First Team Matches for the Loaning Club shall take precedence.

53.3.8 Any days on which the Player participates in a reserve team match and/or attends any training sessions for the Loaning Club (or club)) shall still count towards the period of the Youth Loan.

53.3.9 Except for the specific circumstances provided for in Regulations 53.3.11, 53.3.12 and 54, the minimum duration of any Emergency Loan and Youth Loan shall be 28 days and the maximum duration of an Emergency Loan is 93 days. The loan period is inclusive of the starting date and the finishing date. Youth Loans may not extend beyond the date of the Player's 21st birthday.

53.3.10 Emergency Loans and Youth Loans may contain a break clause but only where that break clause is exercisable after the expiry of the initial 28 day period of the loan.

53.3.11 Emergency Loans and Youth Loans involving goalkeepers (but not otherwise) may be subject to a recall clause within the first 28 days. Any recall may only be implemented in extenuating circumstances and with the consent of the Executive, such extenuating circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.

53.3.12 The Executive shall have discretion to extend the maximum duration of 93 days for an Emergency Loan in extenuating circumstances, such circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.

53.3.13 Subject to Regulation 53.3.14, where the Emergency Loan or Youth Loan of a Player expires (and is not renewed simultaneously) any subsequent Emergency Loan or Youth Loan of that Player to the same Club will be subject to a minimum duration of 28 days as set out in Regulation 53.3.9.

53.3.14 The cumulative total number of days of all Emergency Loans of one Player to the same Club may not exceed 93 days (unless extended by the Executive in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 53.3.12).

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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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That reads like one of fetish bobs shorter posts


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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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I would have thought we could get Dolan permanently.

He is a good player for us, but he isnt Championship class is he?

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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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will thy manage to agree another loan deal


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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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Not sure but why are you speaking all Shakespearian?

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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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Had a good game yesterday I thought - best I've seen him play. Not sure why he was taken off like...


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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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JohnnyMars wrote:
Had a good game yesterday I thought - best I've seen him play. Not sure why he was taken off like...


I think he got an injury


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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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I think after the week he'd had Cooper wanted to give Walker some game time and of the two centre mids Dolan had been booked so he came off.


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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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Cooper said he will be very
Surprised if he is able to play the same team at bury as a few have knocks and bruises so Dolan could have been one of them.

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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
Cooper said he will be very
Surprised if he is able to play the same team at bury as a few have knocks and bruises so Dolan could have been one of them.


I'd also be very surprised.

To be fair Chris Turner picked Gary Liddle once when he was suspended so maybe Cooper should start Monkhouse.


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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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Chip Fireball wrote:
The whole team seemed to play the last 20 minutes with Tuesday at Bury in mind. I thought they might go for the jugular and score 4 or 5 but instead collectively seemed to put the cue on the rack and coast through the last quarter of the game.


And quite rightly so. Lessons learned from last week perhaps?


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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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Cooper definitely seems to have the long game in mind, and whereas I think a lot of teams are already at their peak, or will even tail off, Pools have more to come in reserve and I think he will have more tricks up his sleeve for the other teams in this division to contend with

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 Post subject: Re: Matty Dolan
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At 2 pm today Dolan ( and Sweeney) were in chisolms near the Tall ships. At that time Dolan hadn't even had his meeting with M.bro.
That might give more weight to what you have heard chip.


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