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 Post subject: one game to far
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:22 pm 
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In the week. That's how it looks. 8 days to re gather and get back going

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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:50 pm 
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Agree 100% Chip, I said as much the day of the JPT only to get shot down for it. Now we're losing momentum in the league.


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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:59 pm 
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They have been very good at home especially lately, who's to say the outcome would have been any different if he had of rested 5 or 6 on Tuesday?

I'm very much in the play your strongest team and earn your shirt camp. They have 8 days rest now to bounce back.


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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:06 pm 
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Its 3 games in 7 days to be honest. Saturday-Saturday is 8 days.

I had a feeling a Thread like this would start if we lost claiming this must be the reason. Well why did we lose at Scunthorpe then??

Pointless looking for excuses, we were never gona win every single game. Tuesday we were outstanding so 2 games in 4 days had zero effect on the players. We had the same downtime between this game. The team is very young and playing 3 times in a week should be fine.

By all accounts there 2nd was against the run of play anyway and if that's true then maybe we wernt as fatigued as some think we were.


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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:17 pm 
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Coopers selection so far seems to be very much along lines of 'don't change a winning team' That might be considered an old fashioned view but who's to say it's wrong compared to the modern one that players can't play three times a week?

If he'd have rested players on Tuesday he'd have got flack for not taking the competition seriously when a win could have seen us in the last 8, then we still could have lost tonight.


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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:20 pm 
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I still think we should went for the Jpt. I did say some of those on the fringes were good enough to play tonight. I never said play same team in all games. The 2nd wasagainst play but although on top it was never really threatening a goal. Passes seemed to be played short there was effort don't get me wrong. But i never thought we were going to get goal 2nd half. Maybe thread been given wrong title

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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:33 pm 
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If players were to be rested then tonight was the game to do it. I'm glad Cooper played strong teams in the cup competitions and went to win those games.

If we can stay on the right track and within 3-4 points of the play offs by christmas then things are going ok, Hopefully we'll get thorough in the fa cup and get a bit of money to strengthen the team and push for the play offs in the second half of the season. There's plenty of time to make up for tonights defeat....


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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:38 pm 
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Collins was injured and Austin moved to centre back Holden left back, Baldwin was suspended and he'd played centre midfield at Mansfield bringing in Walker. He hasn't changed a winning team in the League unless it's been a forced change. He did make a change after a JPT win at Sheffield but that was to bring back one of our best players in Jack Baldwin.


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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:43 pm 
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I know someone who has 200 snots at 7/1 for us to finish in the top 12 who is of a similar opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:21 am 
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I can understand why Cooper has tried to stick with a winning side, winning is a good habit to have and the squad should be mentally tough enough to bounce back from this defeat.

Tuesday didn't count, it was an insignificant cup we never progress in and we won the moral battle anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:24 am 
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Did Dolan get 90 mins?

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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:28 am 
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Just got back from the game we were fucking abysmal. Monky hitting post late on only time we got near to scoring. Cooper got his team selection completely wrong for this game. Luke looks in need of a rest and Walton, dolan well off the pace. Compton had his worst game for Pools. A sorry night and Jeff Stelling there to witness it.


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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:41 am 
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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
Did Dolan get 90 mins?

Yes unfortunately he did but Walton did not. Brad Walker brought on with 3 minutes to go how stupid is that? I am a Cooper fan but he did not get a lot if things right tonight. Some chavs in the Bisley Stand behind us were chanting "Spineless C----" at the final whistle. I do not agree with that but we were very poor and outclassed in all departments. I think we tried but were clearly not good enough.


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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
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We were very poor first half and Newport always looked a threat. They harassed and chased, were first to every second ball and managed to get onto balls played behind the back four. Both Dolan and Walton made no impact with the latter giving possession away on countless occasions. Compton didn't look interested. The tactic of playing long balls up to Monkey on the left wing got us nowhere. Things improved a bit in the second half and we had a good 15 minute spell playing the ball on the deck before they scored. Monkhouse was fouled in the build up but the referee was, being kind, totally inept. Poole was the major threat. All in all we were out fought and battled and deserved to get nothing. I thought Cooper was very slow to get Sweeney and Walker on to bolster an ineffective midfield. As others have commented he doesn't like to change a winning team but this week it looks like his inexperience has contributed to defeat tonight. I hope lessons have been learned.

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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:53 am 
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Well i wouldn't describe our performance as abysmal. Newport did their job and our players didn't perform to the top of their game. Off the pace . Poor. 2nd best. Many ways can describe tonight but to describe the performance as abysmal is harsh in my opinion. But suppose that's football for you

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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:01 am 
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Well i wouldn't describe our performance as abysmal. Newport did their job and our players didn't perform to the top of their game. Off the pace . Poor. 2nd best. Many ways can describe tonight but to describe the performance as abysmal is harsh in my opinion. But suppose that's football for you

You are correct.
Too many people making excuses about tiredness/selection/ too many games etc.....Newport have played as many times in last week...and we have an absolutely astonishing injury list to contend with...top scorer out for three months...last yrs top scorer not played a game...both wing backs out...I could go on...but , as you say ..."that's football"!!!

You might have noticed that we were only able to name five subs..and one of those a keeper...we have had to contend with it all season...but look out for us after Xmas..you might just find that you were beaten tonight by the Champions...!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:11 am 
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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
Did Dolan get 90 mins?

Yes unfortunately he did but Walton did not. Brad Walker brought on with 3 minutes to go how stupid is that? I am a Cooper fan but he did not get a lot if things right tonight. Some chavs in the Bisley Stand behind us were chanting "Spineless C----" at the final whistle. I do not agree with that but we were very poor and outclassed in all departments. I think we tried but were clearly not good enough.


Think you're being a bit harsh on your boys...seven wins in nine was it?
Come on give em a break....you played a very well managed team tonight...who , although severely depleted by an injury crisis of monumental proportions...have tremendous spirit,and will surprise a lot of teams this season.


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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:35 am 
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Dont forget, we have a young fit squad and a manager and his assistant who want to win every game. This is Coopers first football league managerial position. He still has a lot to learn as well as well as his group of players he has at the club. Hartlepool United are on a learning curve and a long journey. Cooper will bring this club success I have no doubt.


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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:02 pm 
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Playing Northampton next weekend is definitely a good thing. Playing a team who is low on confidence at home is usually a position in which most competent teams can bounce back with a comfortable win.

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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
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Bramstein wrote:
Playing Northampton next weekend is definitely a good thing. Playing a team who is low on confidence at home is usually a position in which most competent teams can bounce back with a comfortable win.

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...only Northampton have just beaten Fleetwood at home 1-0.

Somehow I think the game might be a bit harder now. But still very winnable.


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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
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I think it will be another tough one next week, closely fought with probably one goal enough to win it.

As for last night, sometimes you have to hold your hands up and say they are just better than we are. They play a very high work rate pressing game when they don't have the ball, and even people like Poole who still showed a good touch had no time on the ball last night. Newport have got to be the hardest working team I've seen this season, they simply never let up when they did not have the ball. When they got the ball they ran at us from all directions and the ball was played through very early. They are nailed on for top 7 if that is the standard of their play and they play like that most weeks

Cooper will have learned much I think from the game, and so will the players. A bit gutted they scored the second when they did cos we were starting to probe a little bit for 10 minutes and their breakaway for the second killed the game stone dead.

You just knew there was no way back after that

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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:32 am 
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Chip Fireball wrote:
Jonny wrote:
If players were to be rested then tonight was the game to do it. I'm glad Cooper played strong teams in the cup competitions and went to win those games.

If we can stay on the right track and within 3-4 points of the play offs by christmas then things are going ok, Hopefully we'll get thorough in the fa cup and get a bit of money to strengthen the team and push for the play offs in the second half of the season. There's plenty of time to make up for tonights defeat....


Completely and utterly disagree.

Coopers one and only goal this season is to finish in the top 12 in League Two. Anything and everything else is a complete and utter irrelevance.


Coopers goal is to win every game. The FA Cup is far from irrelevent when budgets are tight. It's disappointing that we are out of th jpt but hopefully we can keep things going in the fa cup. You can't pick and choose what games you win you should try and win them all.

A top 12 finish would be nice but it only really matters if we finish in the top 7.


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 Post subject: Re: one game to far
PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:48 am 
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Wommers wrote:
Bramstein wrote:
Playing Northampton next weekend is definitely a good thing. Playing a team who is low on confidence at home is usually a position in which most competent teams can bounce back with a comfortable win.

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...only Northampton have just beaten Fleetwood at home 1-0.

Somehow I think the game might be a bit harder now. But still very winnable.


Ha ha yeah. Couldn't believe it when I saw that result come through.

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